RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

[lynx2051]

I dunno why but with alcohol ethyl is 10000 times better!

 

[Albion]

so why is it bad to mix with 6-apb?

Just unnecessary amount of extra stimulation. Would likely not be very fun, and would likely be substantially worse for you than either drug alone.

 

[samm2]

custom formulation capsules-------100mg.caffiene l
10mg.ethyl l>>>>>>>>>per capsule
100mg.tyrosine ethyl ester l
Directions:
Take one capsule as needed for work/study enhancement no later than 4-6 hours before bedtime(to prevent insomnia),not everyday(to prevent tolerance issues) before or after meals(if after meals formulation onset is delayed). Do not take with heart, blood pressure, thyroid conditions, consult medical practitioner. Do not take with agitation or anxiety conditions, consult medical practitioner. Use no more than 3 per day unless instructed otherwise by medical practitoner.

that's 100mg.caffeine+10mg.ethyl+100mg.tyrosine ethyl ester per cap when posting it arranges everything goofy.....

 

[Albion]

Caffeine? Really? That's not going to add anything other than jitters.

 

[lynx2051]

It works pretty well for focusing, I've just been revising for an exam and I raced through a mock test. Now I can't even remember what I've written, so I didn't really learn much lol. This always happens with stimulants.

 

[trammies]

I always hated EPH with Caffeine, which is weird for me, because I love Caffeine. But the mix just made me feel sick... Very sick... But not standard nausea.

Low oral dose Ritalin (10mg) should help for revision purposes, shouldn't it? 'Cause it isn't a high enough dose to leave you too stimmed?

 

[Albion]

Does ritalin come in 10mg pills? If it does, then chances are it's a sub-recreational dose and ideal for studying on.

If you have two 5mg pills or something then it could be another story. I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of Ritalin though, sorry.

 

[lynx2051]

Methiopropamine = better for studying. Ethyl = Better for recreation (especially with alcohol).

 

[samm2]

Caffeine? Really? That's not going to add anything other than jitters.

100mg. should not add jitters(if you drink coffee,tea or cola like 97% of the population does) but if you get jitters lower caffiene to 50 mg. or so. Actually I get jitters from caffiene maybe at like 300mg. doses. Caffiene actually is an antioxidant,something I was surprised at learning about.

 

[samm2]

Does ritalin come in 10mg pills? If it does, then chances are it's a sub-recreational dose and ideal for studying on.

If you have two 5mg pills or something then it could be another story. I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of Ritalin though, sorry.

Outside the US 10 mg. is a standard pill dosage size....inside the US 5,10 and 20mg. was the normal dosage size pills.

If you look at the PDR(physicians desk reference) you will see Ritalin described as a mild central nervous system stimulant....read MILD......so you guys out there don't get your hopes up ....

Concerta,Ritalin LA are all just over-priced timed release formulations, with really no clear advantages except more profit to the big pharm companys.

 

[samm2]

I always hated EPH with Caffeine, which is weird for me, because I love Caffeine. But the mix just made me feel sick... Very sick... But not standard nausea.

Low oral dose Ritalin (10mg) should help for revision purposes, shouldn't it? 'Cause it isn't a high enough dose to leave you too stimmed?

10 mg. Ritalin barely does anything to me...this dose for me is useless for anything but double the dose and I get better focus for maybe 1-2 hours.....30 mg. makes for too much annoying jitters with no better focus...annoying peripheral effects could describe it better.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Did anybody tried ethylphenidate in combination with phenazepam ?

Script of Ritalin and Clonazepam running out. Need to find a replacement.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

I hate MPH deeply. Feel decent, really talkative, but tweaky and massive teeth grinding(the second worst part), and TERRIBLE crash. I'd chew a 56mg concerta though.. EPH is much cleaner you're all saying?

 

[xxxyyy]

and the EPH binge turned into an MPH binge. i guess there really was a reason i quit using uppers, and now as i grind up my final five MPH pills i exactly remember it.

 

[Halif]

also tonight for the first time i took it without any other drugs, and weirdly, i cannot for the life of me figure out what i want to do. i want to do something, but everything i've tried (writing, reading, cleaning up, watching a movie, masturbating) gave me zero pleasure and felt boring and dreadful.

I know that feeling. I also got it on ethylphenidate back when I used to use it and it would drive me crazy. It's such a weird drug.

The majority of my good experiences with it occured when I mixed it with something else, and the worst experiences were usually when I took it alone. Sometimes, as xxxyyy said, it would give me the urge to do something, but nothing would interest me other than taking more EPH. Stupid crazy.

 

[xxxyyy]

EPH and MPH are quite similar in a lot of regards. In some they differ but mostly they are similar.

 

[samm2]

EPH seems to work faster orally than MPH but this may be because MPH was in pill form and the binders/fillers delayed absorption.....
Was wondering if anyone tried modafinil with EPH? Modafinil really only keeps one awake without any motivation/drive

 

[ThrowawayAus]

I've dosed up to about 60-70mg with no signs of euphoria, which is a little disappointing. I'm not noticing much in the way of general stimulant side effects either, apart from no appetite my heart isn't racing and I'm not grinding my teeth or anything, eyes aren't dilated. I binged very heavily on MDPV about a year back, could it be possible this is just a kind of permanent stimulant tolerance I have now? Very functional stimulant though, I've got a lot of work done while on it. I suspect my batch is contaminated though as my lips turned numb after ingesting it, I heard this could be a side effect of benzocaine or something similar. Thoughts?

I have modafinil as well as EPH but I'm hesitant to combine the two since they are both stimulants to a degree though modafinil is very mild. If you do so perhaps lower your dosage of EPH for the first trial. I might give it a go next time I have an all night study session. I'll let you know how that goes.

Oh god people, just another idiot here saying DON'T SNORT THIS! I was wetting my nose prior to snorting, washing with water afterwards and I just looked in the mirror with a flashlight and the inside of my nose is totally red, skin just dissolved away. The back of my throat is quite inflamed with sores all over it too. This is definitely corrosive stuff and a bit of water doesn't seem to mitigate it at all, I would hazard a guess based on the pH test someone did before and it's outright corrosive properties that this is a strongly alkaline chemical. All in all over the course of today and last night I've probably done 200mg, spread out a lot and only about half of that nasal. For that small amount of chemical to do this much damage it's scary. I now even feel wary taking this orally as it could easily cause burns in the stomach once dissolved from a gelatin capsule.

Could any of the experienced long term users here chime in on if they have experienced any bloody stools, diarrhea, abdominal pain or vomiting blood after dosing extensively orally?

 

[stratofortress]

Note: The ethylphenidate I am using was bought from a 'reputable' vendor, and was described as being ethylphenidate 'crystal' rather than 'powder' (many sources seem to offer these two types of ethylphenidate. I don't know if they're chemically different.)

There seem to be very few mentions of smoking / vaporising ethylphenidate on this thread and others. Everybody seems to be insufflating, which causes a good deal of pain and membrane damage by the looks of it. What interested me was smoking ethylphenidate.

Vaporising on tin foil as a ROA, on paper, has its advantages. It provides a much greater rush than snorting or swallowing. It avoids the pain of insufflation. It requires less substance to produce an (albeit shorter lived) high.

However, having managed to retain a dew degrees of common sense since first getting my hands on this stuff, I have to say I had plenty of reservations about smoking the stuff. First up is the obvious question of whether it would work, or whether the heat would destroy the molecules activity. I have no knowledge of chemistry; don't know my freebases from my salts; even talk of simple acid/base procedures leaves me confused. So concern 1 is:

1. Will vaping the stuff get me high?

Secondly, and more importantly, comes the question of physical harm. I've seen for myself the chaos this causes to a user's poor nose. Words like 'irritant' and 'corrosive' are thrown around a lot in ethylphenidate discussions. Is inhaling the vapour (which smells like burning plastic btw) and holding it deep in my lungs just begging for serious respiratory problems? so worry 2:

2. Will vaping the stuff kill me?

Anyway, figuring methylphenidate is pretty darn similar to ethylphenidate, and knowing MPH is smoked as 'kiddy crack', I decided to give it a go. I tried vaping as-sold ethylphenidate off foil, and tried vaping some 'crack' style EPH i'd made following an online tutorial which describes the manufacture of smokable methylphenidate using ritalin and bicarbonate of soda, substituting the MPH for EPH.

It's very difficult to say if the two substances vary very much in their psychoactive effects. Straight up ethylphenidate vaped on foil until it melted and 'ran' produced a strong sensation of stimulation at roughly 40mg. The smoke was not harsh, but did numb the lips and mouth.

The 'crack' style EPH did not melt over the heat; rather, it stayed in little clumps which became hard and brittle, sometimes completely refusing to change their appearance even after giving off 'smoke'. The high from the 'crack' form was no better than normal EPH smoked; in fact, it was hard to tell if the 'crack' form gave any real stimulation at all.

Perhaps if I'd known the chemistry behind what i was doing I could have predicted such results.

Conclusion: vaporised ethylphenidate gives a decent enough stimulant rush, but with little euphoria for me. Converting what the RC vendors sell as 'crystal' EPH into 'kiddy crack' seems worthless. Although smoking doesn't cause lung pain, I guess we're all pretty much in the dark regarding how much lung damage smoking EPH causes.



Edit, to ThrowawayAus; three weeks use wouldn't be considered long term for most drugs, but with RCs maybe my experience would be of some use. After using orally and nasally for about 3 weeks daily, in addition to using some other substances, mostly benzos and weed, I'm currently feeling stomach pains in the left lower area, sensations of nausea and 'loose bowels' (but nothing's coming out). This is only of limited use to you though, as the other drugs I've been taking, particularly the benzos, which i stopped then restarted abruptly, are known to cause similar symptoms in withdrawal.

 

[ThrowawayAus]

Note: The ethylphenidate I am using was bought from a 'reputable' vendor, and was described as being ethylphenidate 'crystal' rather than 'powder' (many sources seem to offer these two types of ethylphenidate. I don't know if they're chemically different.)

There seem to be very few mentions of smoking / vaporising ethylphenidate on this thread and others. Everybody seems to be insufflating, which causes a good deal of pain and membrane damage by the looks of it. What interested me was smoking ethylphenidate.

Vaporising on tin foil as a ROA, on paper, has its advantages. It provides a much greater rush than snorting or swallowing. It avoids the pain of insufflation. It requires less substance to produce an (albeit shorter lived) high.

However, having managed to retain a dew degrees of common sense since first getting my hands on this stuff, I have to say I had plenty of reservations about smoking the stuff. First up is the obvious question of whether it would work, or whether the heat would destroy the molecules activity. I have no knowledge of chemistry; don't know my freebases from my salts; even talk of simple acid/base procedures leaves me confused. So concern 1 is:

1. Will vaping the stuff get me high?

Secondly, and more importantly, comes the question of physical harm. I've seen for myself the chaos this causes to a user's poor nose. Words like 'irritant' and 'corrosive' are thrown around a lot in ethylphenidate discussions. Is inhaling the vapour (which smells like burning plastic btw) and holding it deep in my lungs just begging for serious respiratory problems? so worry 2:

2. Will vaping the stuff kill me?

Anyway, figuring methylphenidate is pretty darn similar to ethylphenidate, and knowing MPH is smoked as 'kiddy crack', I decided to give it a go. I tried vaping as-sold ethylphenidate off foil, and tried vaping some 'crack' style EPH i'd made following an online tutorial which describes the manufacture of smokable methylphenidate using ritalin and bicarbonate of soda, substituting the MPH for EPH.

It's very difficult to say if the two substances vary very much in their psychoactive effects. Straight up ethylphenidate vaped on foil until it melted and 'ran' produced a strong sensation of stimulation at roughly 40mg. The smoke was not harsh, but did numb the lips and mouth.

The 'crack' style EPH did not melt over the heat; rather, it stayed in little clumps which became hard and brittle, sometimes completely refusing to change their appearance even after giving off 'smoke'. The high from the 'crack' form was no better than normal EPH smoked; in fact, it was hard to tell if the 'crack' form gave any real stimulation at all.

Perhaps if I'd known the chemistry behind what i was doing I could have predicted such results.

Conclusion: vaporised ethylphenidate gives a decent enough stimulant rush, but with little euphoria for me. Converting what the RC vendors sell as 'crystal' EPH into 'kiddy crack' seems worthless. Although smoking doesn't cause lung pain, I guess we're all pretty much in the dark regarding how much lung damage smoking EPH causes.



Edit, to ThrowawayAus; three weeks use wouldn't be considered long term for most drugs, but with RCs maybe my experience would be of some use. After using orally and nasally for about 3 weeks daily, in addition to using some other substances, mostly benzos and weed, I'm currently feeling stomach pains in the left lower area, sensations of nausea and 'loose bowels' (but nothing's coming out). This is only of limited use to you though, as the other drugs I've been taking, particularly the benzos, which i stopped then restarted abruptly, are known to cause similar symptoms in withdrawal.

I am currently quite scared that I have given myself acute renal failure. The combination of only a small amount of hydration and an extremely corrosive drug making its way through the renal system without a lot of liquid to buffer it, and the fact that my bowel is quite irritated and sensitive, not painful but I feel like it is swollen and it has definitely done some damage, leads me to believe that my renal system has basically been completely fucked over. I urge anyone using this drug to get kidney function tests, I think the results will shock you. If ketamine causes kidney damage and it is only slightly acidic, what would a substance that is clearly pH 13 or greater do? (it has to be above pH12 for it to cause the burning of the skin noticed) Apart from the potential of the formation of kidney stones from increased urine pH (it happens with both increased and decreased urine pH), the potential for acute tubular necrosis is great. I'm currently urinating a lot, though I am drinking a lot, and my urine is basically clear (though I have only eaten a bowl of cereal today and drank water so there isn't much to colour it) and of the possible kidney diseases acute tubular necrosis (where the epithelial cells of the renal tubules basically just slough off, due to oxygen deprivation or acute toxic shock) seems most likely due to the absolute corrosive nature of the chemical. I'm currently not experiencing any kidney pain though I have read this takes a while to develop. I will keep you posted bluelight and I sincerely hope that tomorrow I am not close to death.

If anyone has any intention of continuing to use this drug, PLEASE find a way to convert this corrosive alkaline form into a more neutral substance. I don't know if this is feasible in any way, but it's either that or we are all facing chronic kidney failure.

Oh and for the guy I quoted, there is no way in the world that exposing your lungs, some of the most delicate tissues your body has, to a corrosive substance will do them any good in any way. I am not sure if the crack version of this substance has a lower pH but I hope for your sake it does.