RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

[mushroomdub]

This shit burns like !!!!... If meph/MPA was like a 5 I'd give this a 8.

Do think it's a good study aid though. Provides the ability/endurance to get distracted in your work.
There was slight pupil dilation the two times I tried it.

 

[Grondelduck]

Haha, my nose is still recovering from a 2-day binge which ended a week ago. Now, I'm quite fond of my nose so I guess this is also good in the sense that it limits my use, but a shame since it's such a fun stim. At the tail-end of the binge (long after the party ended and I had made my way back home, it's quite compulsive indeed) I was having the greatest fun looking for random wild in Skyrim and shooting arrows at it and just basically jerking around in any other game. Might try dosing orally this weekend to spare my nose, hope the effects are still pronounced enough to make it a worthwhile roa.

 

[b3ast1e]

I've been giving it a good old test drive over the last 4 days, the first two of which were essentially one long binge without end that saw me hoovering up half a gram of one of the single most corrosive and painful flesh eating substances my nose has ever had to endure, a cycle of self indulgent gluttony that was only halted by a 4mg etizolam. It's nice stuff, but nothing about is is very distinguished. What I found so compulsive is that it just never stopped doing it's job and left no outward sign that I was actually off my rocker but capable of getting on with life despite it. I'm not used to that, and it makes this stuff easy to abuse and a dangerous challenge to self control when you're not sure where the limits are.

But, as with all RCs I've encountered, I eventually found a limit in the form of sky high tolerance that literally came out of nowhere. So it's gone to the bottom of the sock drawer and will be a nice surprise when I rediscover it.

 

[Grondelduck]

I've been giving it a good old test drive over the last 4 days, the first two of which were essentially one long binge without end that saw me hoovering up half a gram of one of the single most corrosive and painful flesh eating substances my nose has ever had to endure, a cycle of self indulgent gluttony that was only halted by a 4mg etizolam. It's nice stuff, but nothing about is is very distinguished. What I found so compulsive is that it just never stopped doing it's job and left no outward sign that I was actually off my rocker but capable of getting on with life despite it. I'm not used to that, and it makes this stuff easy to abuse and a dangerous challenge to self control when you're not sure where the limits are.

But, as with all RCs I've encountered, I eventually found a limit in the form of sky high tolerance that literally came out of nowhere. So it's gone to the bottom of the sock drawer and will be a nice surprise when I rediscover it.

I find that description fitting with the way I experience cocaine. Something which already consumed way too much of my time and money in past times. Anyway, I learned all about how more isn't always better back then which gives me a nice handle on this one. Quitting while the high is worthwhile, knowing that anything I consume just to stretch it might also be used a future time when I'd actually get my money's worth from it helps me in that respect.

edit/ Aside from the pain ofcourse

 

[Albion]

saw me hoovering up half a gram of one of the single most corrosive and painful flesh eating substances my nose has ever had to endure

Too right...

I'm starting to seriously consider the fact that this drug has corroded away a good 1-2mm of flesh up both sides of my septum (right is noticable worse though). I'm still getting nosebleeds on occasion, specifically when I dislodge the clotted blood that has gathered from the porous bleeding.

It could be that 'things in your nose feel larger than they really are' reasoning playing up, but the truth of the matter is that this stuff will SERIOUSLY damage your nose. Even the backdrip started to make my throat swell up in outrage after prolonged exposure.

The real bummer is really that nasal-corrosion is much more favourable than under-tongue corrosion, intra venal corrosion, or heaven-forbid rectal corrosion.

Oral appears to be the most pain-free ROA...but that might not necessarily be a good thing. I certainly wouldn't want to put it to the test

 

[Transform]

You might want to try washing your pete, mine caused no abnormal discomfort subligually.

 

[Albion]

You might want to try washing your pete, mine caused no abnormal discomfort subligually.

How do I go about washing EPH? I'll be pissed off if it turns out all the damage was done by an unnecessary impurity...

 

[b3ast1e]

I find that description fitting with the way I experience cocaine. Something which already consumed way too much of my time and money in past times. Anyway, I learned all about how more isn't always better back then which gives me a nice handle on this one. Quitting while the high is worthwhile, knowing that anything I consume just to stretch it might also be used a future time when I'd actually get my money's worth from it helps me in that respect.

edit/ Aside from the pain ofcourse

That's a spot on approach and one I'd normally take myself if I were still in practice with stims. I've never had a problem with coke though, not even the better than average grade stuff.I've always found it a rather bitter experience of chasing rapidly diminishing returns, I guess my lack of appreciation for the world's number one glam narc pretty much puts me in a minority of one though lol.

You're absolutely right though, and I think this little chem has a lot of charm if you're able to exercise the restraint. I couldn't, but then I wasn't really trying. Glad I've still got a nose though, I did start to wonder if I might find it on my pillow at some point

 

[Grondelduck]

That's a spot on approach and one I'd normally take myself if I were still in practice with stims. I've never had a problem with coke though, not even the better than average grade stuff.I've always found it a rather bitter experience of chasing rapidly diminishing returns, I guess my lack of appreciation for the world's number one glam narc pretty much puts me in a minority of one though lol.

You're absolutely right though, and I think this little chem has a lot of charm if you're able to exercise the restraint. I couldn't, but then I wasn't really trying. Glad I've still got a nose though, I did start to wonder if I might find it on my pillow at some point

I'd consider that lack of appreciation a blessing haha Can't say I was any different, this one got me by suprise as well. First time ended in a binge as well, but it was quite enjoyable till the end, especially with alcohol and GHB so I've found. After a few hours of usage I found tapering it off with 3mg etizolam and some mj a really nice way to come down

 

[adder]

EPH is definitely more tolerable for me than any amphetamines and it's better than methylphenidate due to differences in pharmacodynamics but there's no way I'd say it wins with cocaine despite short duration of action in case of cocaine. Anyway, it definitely fails into the stimulant trinity category for me along with aforementioned cocaine and 4-methylaminorex. But as I don't like stimulants for anxiety they produce during the come-down, I don't really remember when I have last used anything stimulating beside caffeine from Red Bull.

 

[lynx2051]

I might give this another go taken orally, even though I had psychosis last time from a combination of other drugs and having no sleep, and keep some etizolam handy just in case anything goes wrong.

 

[Transform]

How do I go about washing EPH? I'll be pissed off if it turns out all the damage was done by an unnecessary impurity...

Just having a look now, I imagine acetone would be most suitable, it is very easy to get and most amine salts are sparingly soluble in it.

Yes, you might lose 5% of your active product, but this is a small price to pay for your continued health. Septum surgery costs a LOT more than a gram of EPD

Edit: 39mg of EPD was almost totally insoluble in 2.5mls of warm (undried) acetone. Crush your crystals to a fine powder, place in a cone of filter paper in a funnel and rinse it with 3x5mls washes of cold acetone.


Alternatively you could recrystallise, in which case I found that 0.15mls (5-10% of your acetone volume) of water prompted dissolution. Any more than this and you'll have to evaporate everything and start again!

 

[lynx2051]

Anyone tried this with a benzo, etizolam for example just to take the edge off. Or is it much more fun combined with alcohol? Because I like stimulants but not speedy ones like I used to.

Some strong stimulants like mephedrone used to make me a little paranoid. Whereas re-uptake inhibitors like cocaine made me feel quite uninhibited and clear-headed, probably due to the norephinephrine being much less. (accept MDPV which use to give me horrible comedowns, but I think everyone would agree with me on that one).

I tried 65mg orally 3 weeks ago, it was nice but kind of weak and only mild euphoria and a slight confused feeling like crap cocaine, no comedown really accept a bit of neck tension for an hour later. I may take 80mg next time. I'm definitely not snorting this drug, as my nose was in agony from when I tested 15mg.

MPA was speedy but had very little euphoria and didn't PUSH you to do things, it just made everyday tasks a little easier. Plus the comedown was very light, just some mild tension, but absolutely no paranoia whatsoever.

 

[lynx2051]

Hmmm

10mg insuffulated

Ate a cap just after 50mg.

3 hours later a 5mg bump

2 hourrs later now heart still RACING. took a benzo n its still going like hell.

Is this regulard? Anyone else get this?

I nearly passed out walking took me ages to walk proper out of breath.

Sounds like your vendor gave you MDPV or something.

 

[b3ast1e]

Anyone tried this with a benzo, etizolam for example just to take the edge off. Or is it much more fun combined with alcohol? Because I like stimulants but not speedy ones like I used to.

Yeah, I've been using etizolam to put the brakes on each evening of a week long binge. It's been effective, but t I did find these etilams very subtle in effect so probably took more than I needed to get the desired effect. I've no tolerance or experience with benzos, yet I don't think I ever got a definitive feel for what the effective dose was for smothering an eph buzz. 1mg made me feel rubber legged, slurry but still lively, 2mg made my eyes heavy but not enough to induce sleep, 3mg seemed about right for my daily consumption of 200mg eph a day (so greedy!). 4mg gave me a blackout and some minor injuries from falling down some stairs.

So yeah, it will work for you for sure, but the knockout dose is entirely variable depending on the individual. Eph seems highly conducive to alcohol consumption, but add a benzo to the mix and it all seems to get very sketchy, which is to be expected I guess.

 

[Albion]

Just having a look now, I imagine acetone would be most suitable, it is very easy to get and most amine salts are sparingly soluble in it.

Yes, you might lose 5% of your active product, but this is a small price to pay for your continued health. Septum surgery costs a LOT more than a gram of EPD

Edit: 39mg of EPD was almost totally insoluble in 2.5mls of warm (undried) acetone. Crush your crystals to a fine powder, place in a cone of filter paper in a funnel and rinse it with 3x5mls washes of cold acetone.


Alternatively you could recrystallise, in which case I found that 0.15mls (5-10% of your acetone volume) of water prompted dissolution. Any more than this and you'll have to evaporate everything and start again!

Thanks for the excellent infoo. Sounds like a fair bit of work, but I'm sure as hell going to do it from now on.

 

[Transform]

Once you have some acetone, a measuring spoon and filter paper, it's really very easy.

Crush, place in paper and add chilled acetone. Done.

 

[adder]

I might give this another go taken orally, even though I had psychosis last time from a combination of other drugs and having no sleep, and keep some etizolam handy just in case anything goes wrong.

This is something that always kept me away from stimulants. After a few days you just go crazy, it doesn't happen with depressants. And even if it happened in both cases, stimulants are just about euphoria and it's inferior to opioids' euphoria. Opioids always let me both be more social or forget about the world depending on the dose. With stimulants sitting alone is the worst thing.

 

[Grondelduck]

This is something that always kept me away from stimulants. After a few days you just go crazy, it doesn't happen with depressants. And even if it happened in both cases, stimulants are just about euphoria and it's inferior to opioids' euphoria. Opioids always let me both be more social or forget about the world depending on the dose. With stimulants sitting alone is the worst thing.

Euphoria isn't always what one is after though. I for one could not do without functional stims such as 2-FA and dex.
I do agree on on things like mdma. After having such fun memories and moments with it I got a hold of a quarter ounce so I'd be set for the years to come, but I found the comedown not worth it anymore and got rid of nearly everything. 4-FA would be the only other euphoric stim out there worthwhile to me due to the mild comedown.

Now about ethylphen: I am no longer snorting this. The rush is great, but I do have the feeling I'm damaging my nose beyond repair if I keep this up. Even from just 150mg over the span of 4h my nose felt like a war had taken place in there.

 

[hairyharry]

is the HCL smokeable? is it the HCL variety the only type being sold? This used to be 'Nopain' or something like that on that site which was found to be a fake (I think) and it came in two versions...