The EADD aMT Thread

[Bare_head]

No idea. I don't think anyone can answer that question authoritatively for you.

AMT has some stimulant properties which, for some (like me), will mean that an element of anxiety is part and parcel of the initial experience. I've never really had an AMT trip where the anxiety lasted longer than the first hour or two.

Personally, I've always found the substance relatively benign... but then I trip with it infrequently and ensure that my mind isn't being bogged down by other concerns.

If you've had repeated poor experiences (anxiety/paranoia) with other substances in a similar class, then you might wish to avoid using it. No sense in punishing yourself for upwards of 18 hours. If not, I can't help but feel there's an opportunity to exorcise your youthful negative LSD experiences. It's a crude description... but AMT will give you a close approximation of LSD's dripping visuals, but with a background reassurance and positivity that (for me) LSD has always lacked.

As ever, this is an entirely subjective assessment and your mileage may vary.

i agree that the anxiety the initial comeup brings can be quite profound, though as it you peak the anxiety goes away. its quite different too lsd, in that the visuals arn't as profound, you feel more in control over things.. stil yet to try the HCL. but hopefully this weekend will involve and nice hefty dose of aMT will bring back the good ole feelings

 

[botfly]

After my rediculous binge I was a bit depressed for a couple of days but nothing major. I will never go over 50mg again as it's not really worth it. It's best to just take a high dose instead of working up to extrememely high doses like I did. I did feel quite nauseous for a while on it. I bet an ant-acid or something would curb it. I had a bit of a problem with feeling like I needed to go to the toilet for a while at first but it's subsided after a while.
The visuals were never pushy, they were there if I wanted them to be kind of thing, the clouds were magnificent and the sky and other objects flipped colours etc. There was lots of details within the warping and breathing objects. I'm sure I will enjoy it more next time now I've got a feel for it and know that it's best for outside on a sunny day probably.

 

[Pingu]

my friend had some 50 hours ago and still hasn't slept... anyone else experience this?

 

[Pingu]

onset was slow, with effects starting at about 1 hour 30 mins with some anxiety at the start for maybe 30 mins, with some sleepiness. the first few hours were speedy, with some sledging. the effects became stronger till about 5 hours in, when it became more trippy, with tracers and whatnot. effects lasted around 12 hours in total. didnt have much trouble sleeping, and after 6 hours sleep woke up feeling slightly spaced out but happy.

 

[tambourine-man]

my friend had some 50 hours ago and still hasn't slept... anyone else experience this?

50 hours???

Exhaustion should have set in at some point.

Is your friend certain they haven't slept? Seems like a weird question, but it's perfectly possible when slipping through different levels of consciousness to fall asleep briefly, just enough to stave off exhaustion.

On AMT, I once fell asleep for six hours and woke up still tripping, but didn't realise I'd been asleep until I saw what programmes were on TV! :D

 

[Ruggy100]

Thanks for the reply tam, i think your right i feel that my past experience with psychs have always stopped me from revisiting these types of substances and i feel that i am missing out somewhat, for me its like someone else said, the control, i never felt i had it with LSD and that certainly added to the anxiety in a downward spiral sort of way , given the positive effect this has producing a mood lift and euphoria may help to counter balance that negativity i previously would have had, thats what i hope anyway. I am going to try this this weekend, but with a low dose to see how it handles, cheers...

 

[goku4ever]

onset was slow, with effects starting at about 1 hour 30 mins with some anxiety at the start for maybe 30 mins, with some sleepiness. the first few hours were speedy, with some sledging. the effects became stronger till about 5 hours in, when it became more trippy, with tracers and whatnot. effects lasted around 12 hours in total. didnt have much trouble sleeping, and after 6 hours sleep woke up feeling slightly spaced out but happy.

This is pretty much what my experiences are like. 90 minutes to come up, then slowly building in effects until 5 hours after dosing at which point it becomes more trippy than speedy. I can sleep about 10 hours after dosing.

 

[Pingu]

50 hours???

Exhaustion should have set in at some point.

Is your friend certain they haven't slept? Seems like a weird question, but it's perfectly possible when slipping through different levels of consciousness to fall asleep briefly, just enough to stave off exhaustion.

On AMT, I once fell asleep for six hours and woke up still tripping, but didn't realise I'd been asleep until I saw what programmes were on TV! :D

yeah similar thing happened to me

im thinking maybe he redosed but cant remember...

 

[tambourine-man]

Thanks for the reply tam, i think your right i feel that my past experience with psychs have always stopped me from revisiting these types of substances and i feel that i am missing out somewhat, for me its like someone else said, the control, i never felt i had it with LSD and that certainly added to the anxiety in a downward spiral sort of way , given the positive effect this has producing a mood lift and euphoria may help to counter balance that negativity i previously would have had, thats what i hope anyway. I am going to try this this weekend, but with a low dose to see how it handles, cheers...

Very well. The thread contains dosing advice. 15-20mg is appropriate for a first time, assuming you're confident that you're in possession of AMT rather than 5-MeO-AMT.

Remember to pop in and let us know how it went.

Best of luck.

im thinking maybe he redosed but cant remember...

Probably.

 

[Ismene]

Tried a little lower dose than 40mg and it was very comfortable. No nausea at all - I took about 20-30mg orally.

 

[Silverfox]

I've just reacquainted myself with aMT after a very long abstinence (30+ years actually!). I'd planned to set a couple of days aside to try a 50mg dose with time for recovery, but circumstances didn't allow so I popped 15mg a couple of hours ago just for a buzz. Very smooth come up, no nausea. Feeling very chilled out now

 

[The RZA]

onset was slow, with effects starting at about 1 hour 30 mins with some anxiety at the start for maybe 30 mins, with some sleepiness. the first few hours were speedy, with some sledging. the effects became stronger till about 5 hours in, when it became more trippy, with tracers and whatnot. effects lasted around 12 hours in total. didnt have much trouble sleeping, and after 6 hours sleep woke up feeling slightly spaced out but happy.

What was the dose of that Pingu?

 

[GZero]

In my rather limited and admittedly slightly tained experience thus far, while this is a pleasant drug and a powerful psychdelic, LSD still shines brightest for me.

Embarking on another, admittedly eyeballed 20-40mg trip, we shall see how this goes.

 

[GZero]

50 hours???

Exhaustion should have set in at some point.

Is your friend certain they haven't slept? Seems like a weird question, but it's perfectly possible when slipping through different levels of consciousness to fall asleep briefly, just enough to stave off exhaustion.

On AMT, I once fell asleep for six hours and woke up still tripping, but didn't realise I'd been asleep until I saw what programmes were on TV! :D

What else was he taking at the time?

While this has now proven to be a fairly weak MAOI, not far off amphetamine, could a powerful SSRI have anything to do with it?

 

[The RZA]

I find Erowid more confusing than helpful when it comes to this stuff - the differences in effect are huge.

Someone claiming 40mg's had them in a wizzed out, jaw clenching, hallucinogenic headfuck, someone else claiming 60mg's was a really easy going MDMA like push with gentle, just about there visuals, someone else claiming 25mg's had them "tripping balls" and really freaked out etc etc..

And most of the reports are generally not like anyone's report so far on this thread.

I'm going to write to my MP to demand answers.

 

[love_sex_desire]

Speaking of SSRI's has anyone used AMT while on an SSRI?

Were the effects stronger? Weaker?

Did you notice a dangerous toxicity with this combo?

What dose did you take?

If anyone has used AMT while on SSRI's as much information as possible would be very helpful.

My gf is on paxil and she wants to do AMT with me but we are both very apprehensive about doing it until anyone can confirm the safety, well presumed safety, based on someone elses experience with this combo.

Would a small dose of 5-10 mg be considered safe?

 

[Pingu]

What was the dose of that Pingu?

about 30mg

btw i did get some nausea + being sick after 10 hours, but I was combining it with lots of rum and cocaine at the end so that may have had something to do it with it

 

[The RZA]

about 30mg

I've decided I'm going 20 when I try this in Wales later in the year.

If it turns out to be a little underwhelming so be it, no biggie - there's always another time.

 

[watsons torment]

i did 10mg when i got it which was nice but very mild, and i've been doing 5mg every day since then and i've had a damn good week of inappropriate smiling and not giving a fuck, and it feels a bit like valium with the 5mg doses i've been doing. made work a doddle.

had a slightly weird feeling in my guts all week though, a couple of the 2c's can take me out of action as well i've spent a couple of my 2c-e trips with my pants round my ankles for a few hours firing liquid poop down the bog

 

[The RZA]

about 30mg

btw i did get some nausea + being sick after 10 hours, but I was combining it with lots of rum and cocaine at the end so that may have had something to do it with it

Yea, I'm sure it did. So how long before you touched down after 30mg's?

Was the 10 hours you mentioned pretty much the tail end of it?