The EADD a trifle annoyed thread v. I bet that smarts a bit

[Raasyvibe]

Fucked off with never feeling like I belong. And finding it difficult to get along with people. It's so damn hard. Ughhhhh. Think it was better being on codeine where being alone was barable.

But seriously what's the point of existing every fkn day to be hated, put down etc

Everything I do n say is shit. Because every time I utter something there's someone ready to tell me how shit it is. I just want to prove myself n my worth but it's never right. It's always wrong.

Evey

Think she's referring to this:

Eating weed causes hallucinations, as it's not meant to be ate, but smokedd.

Eve you shouldn't comment on something you clearly know nothing about. Weed is meant to be eaten, I don't want to explain all this because it bores the forum and goes off topic

Can I have a second opinion?

Am I being "harsh but fair", in rebuking dear Evey here. Or am I being rude, disrespectful and condescending? Is the attitude wrong? or righteous...


Raasy

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Evey, i dunno if you are even talking to me at the moment, but dont take these things so personally, this is very much a forum full of pedants, and people who know more than you, (who ever you are, with just a few exceptions, some people had such incredible depth and breadth of knowledege, well ouside most peoples normal range that it would seem very churlsih to correct one of those legendary posts by Amanatadine, or Babylon Boy, Or Knock, for example.) and who seem out to to prove it sometimes.... Although it is annoying to be publically corrected, at least you wont carry on repeating the same false statements in the future.

Raas, you're not being rude, disrespectful and condescending. Many people do eat weed, preceicely because it can be more "trippy" when consumed that way. "Eve you shouldn't comment on something you clearly know nothing about." was a bit of a rebuke though imo.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Y. I'm slowly learning to laugh at myself n not take everything so seriously but how do you all accept being criticised n not take it personally????
Evey

Thats good. You could view criticism as a "chance to grow as person". Sorry for the hippy bullshit terminology. But as Summer says its up to you, whether you take it on board or not, you simply cannot please everyone, if you did, you would displease those who dislike those who please everybody. and therefor cannnot take everyones criticism on board. I would suggest only listening to those people whome you already respect and have some kind of bond with; those people that generally talk sense, (which is lots of people on here for a bunch of druggies.) Also peeople that seem to have some kind of sympathy for you and some empathy and understanding of what you're going through, and are not just out to blatantly take the piss.

 

[Eveleivibe]

Think she's referring to this:

Can I have a second opinion?

Am I being "harsh but fair", in rebuking dear Evey here. Or am I being rude, disrespectful and condescending? Is the attitude wrong? or righteous...


Raasy

Oh Raasy please don't lets start this up again. Today is another day n I never mentioned your name. I'm not annoyed over it anymore

Evey

 

[mydrugbuddy]

OK, so i take that as a 'you're still not talking to me.' Fair enough if thats what you want, not just for my sake, but for the whole of EADD, can we not have any more public squabbles though. I was in the wrong first time round, we've established that, and i dont know how many times you want me to aplogise, but ive done nothing wrong as to why you've fallen out with me again recently. Although i can understand why you might be upset or annoyed, my consience isnt troubling me, and beleive it or not i do have one. Even my counsellor remarked that i am a "highly moralistic" person, something which i was very surprised about. My 'moral code' isnt the same as the legal one this country employs, if that makes me arrogant, to be able to think for myself then so be it. I must have neglected to tell her some of my more 'impure' thoughts and deeds.

 

[BigG]

Fabulous Cocaine Queen Summer. Think that about sums me up. I don't think it was me that started the fabulous thing, it's not something I ever said on a regular basis but it's definitely appropriate. And I am cute, thank you.

I'm sure you are Summer. Ironically I got into bodybuilding in my early 20s thinking it would attract women only to actually become pretty good at it and find out women don't really like big muscles!!

Since retiring from active competition and downsizing by a stone or two but making sure to stay ripped with clear abbs and a fair degree of muscle mass (the sort of fitness model type look)I find women much prefer that. You ladies are sure tough to understand that's for sure!

Why don't women like big bodybuilders?....... I almost feel like going up to the young 20somethings I see in the gym every day, pumped full to the gills of roids and telling them to forget it as it impresses no one and women seem to hate it while a healthy look with ripped arms and a good six pack requires no drugs at all, is much healthier and women actually go for it!

Women from mars ....men from Venus and all that bollocks!!

 

[Eveleivibe]

Maybe they do it for themselves??? My auntie is a bodybuilder, has her own gym n she does it for her - not for anyone else.

Evey

 

[ponch]

Building large amounts of muscle can be perceived as someone over compensating for insecurities in their persona. Being comfortable and completely at ease with your self is quite an attractive trait to women (in my experience anyway)

Nothing wrong with keeping fit, bulking up too much looks silly though.

 

[ScotchMist]

It doesnt half look uncomfortable being that sort of size... is it as bad as it looks englandz??

I noticed that alot of the lads i know who've gone that path, roids and huge, were all dainty things at school. As ponch said, i think for alot of them, it stems from an insecurity or two.

It seems to turn into a disorder for quite a few, almost the opposite of anorexia, they're never big enough... a guys arm is about the same as my waist and he's still saying hes got some way to go.. madness..

 

[BigG]

Yeah some people do it for themselves for sure but a lot of young lads (of which I was one) think that huge muscles will impress girls. Believe me I've been around gyms for over 20 years and that's the reasoning of a lot of young lads that get into bodybuilding.

While I guess women prefer a man with a fit body to one that does not working out at all. Huge muscles are it would seem a turnoff to most.

As a side I was going to try to load a picture to show thr difference I was on about but I don't think you can upload pics onto BL just using a phone.........can you?

Edit Scotchy - it is just as bad as it looks.....I was 18st 10 at my heaviest (still with low body fat) and walking more than 100 yards was agony due to shin splints, my thigh muscles rubbed together to the extend that they would chafe the skin off.....I couldn't sleep properly and would develop sleep apnea in my sleep to the point where my girlfriend sometimes thought I was dead (Lol!)...all due to the excess muscle mass in my neck and traps. Forget having to run anywhere....it would have nearly killed me!. I couldn't reach round behond me to say tuck the back of a shirt collar down as my chest and arms were too big.....I sweated all the time.....was a full king nightmare.....I now weigh around 14 stone (ish) at under 6% body fat (which is ripped to shreads) and feel a million times better....however all those years of lifting rediculous weights have left my joints even more fucked up than they were already and I'm in constant pain.

Also reverse anorexia (or bigorexia as its been called) is a legitimate form of body dismorphia where no matter how big a person gets they always feel small and puny.....its actually a big problem for some.

 

[ColtDan]

Nothing wrong with keeping fit, bulking up too much looks silly though.

Agreed, some body builders look freaky and weird. Sod getting that big

 

[BigG]

Its fucking hard work as well. The gym work is actually the easy part...its eating 6 or 7 meals a day (of clean food as well) and shovelling 400+ gramms of protein and 6,000 to 7,000 calories that's the really hard part. 7,000 calories of only clean food is an absolute mountain of food and its not just like a one off its every day week in and week out. Especially if your appetite is poor its a fucking nightmare

 

[ColtDan]

Ah yeah i forgot about that... must cost aload of money to consume that amount. whey protein aint cheap either if i recall

 

[Eveleivibe]

Its fucking hard work as well. The gym work is actually the easy part...its eating 6 or 7 meals a day (of clean food as well) and shovelling 400+ gramms of protein and 6,000 to 7,000 calories that's the really hard part. 7,000 calories of only clean food is an absolute mountain of food and its not just like a one off its every day week in and week out. Especially if your appetite is poor its a fucking nightmare

Agreed!

Evey

 

[ScotchMist]

Sounds like hell to me, absolute hell..!

I know a lad who did competitions and he was huge but there was definition to him aswell. A lot of lads you see about are obviously taking steds and going to the gym but not doing it right, they're just a lump with no definition at all. Looks daft imo. Then theres the spots and all those horrible side effects.

 

[Eveleivibe]

My auntie looks ace. I'm well jealous. She's well respected by a lot of the men round here. She's won competitions n is a personal trainer too.

Evey

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Then theres the spots and all those horrible side effects.

Yeah i heard about one of them, the one about them sometimes making some people hyper aggressive and prone to sudden outbursts of violent temper. I guy i used to know at work one grabbed someones head and smashed his face time after time into a mirror. Dunno how he avoided a severe pinishment for that. He was what you woud call a decent or nice guy too, ive known a couple of people like that, who seem like really nice guys, only to learn afterwards that they were prone to be very violent.

 

[BigG]

In my experience what usually happens is tbat someone who's only small and isn't physically able to be super aggressive or violent and maybe has been bullied takes up bodybuilding... Uses a ton of juice and is now huge....now they DO have the physical presence to back it up so all those years of anger and frustration comes out....there's actually zero scientific evidence that so called "roid rage" even exists.

Its mainly that a 10 stone arsehole is just an arsehole but not a serious threat but a 20stone strong as fuck arsehole can be a much bigger problem cos he can now act out his "arseholeness" for want of a better word.

I've always been a gentle caring person who genuinely loves helping others so even when I was really huge I was never, ever violent. I'm still pretty big by most standards as 14 stone of allmost pure muscle with very low body fat is a lot but in still the same quiet caring person. In contrast my training partner is the most violent man I've ever come across... He's just finished a 10stretch for shooting someone and was an enforcer for one of the northeast's biggest drug distribution gangs in the 90s. He takes a ton of steroids but I don't think the steroids made him like that.....he's just violent.

You may be wondering why I train with him then but I've always had the philosophy that if I'm kind and helpfull to people they will be OK with me and he is. Plus he's a good training partner as he's very strong, let's me spar with him in the ring for 1/2 hour after our weights workout and is the only bloke I know willing to work out at 5:30am haha!!

 

[mydrugbuddy]

but I've always had the philosophy that if I'm kind and helpfull to people they will be OK with me and he is.

Yeah that generally does seem to be the case. I have some annoying personality flaws that unitentionally wind some people up, like sometimes appearing to be arrogant which is often just an attempt to cover up a lack of confidence in some situations etc.

The weird thing about the guy i knew was that he was allways physically big and a charismatic and likeable fella too, seriosuly into rugby. Thats why he took the roids, he seemed to put on tons of muscle exteremly quickly. His mirror incident is but one instance of what i would call "roid rage"; but you clearly know much more about this subject than me, perhaps this guy allways had some underlying/dormant violent streak.

 

[BigG]

Its actually a much debated subject re. "roid rage" and whetherthe drugs tthemselves cause aggressive outbursts of if the increased physical presence mearly enable inherent violent tendencies to come to the fore. I guess its different in everyone. Often of a 10 stone arsehole takes gear and becomes 15stone......he just becomes a much bigger arsehole. I know guys who are literally inhumanly big and strong, use alsorts and wouldn't hurt a fly.....I also know guys who use nothing who are sadistic bastards. Its something I've researched a lot though and the scientific/medical community can't seem to decide if increased androgen levels are responsible or not. I suspect its a complex medical/physiological interaction that has many facets and pigion holing people just isn't possible......something I'm interested in though.