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The DMT discussion thread

How hard is it to find in Brisbane, as in should i bother to look or not?
This is not a sourcing question
 
Demanufacturer said:
I dont mean to sound impertinent, but one recurring comment that im coming across whilst researching DMT is the sudden change in spiritual attitude that it incites in users.

Jaza you mentioned your trip changed you from an Atheist to Agnostic.

I'll be the first to say I've thought a lot of fucked up things when im intoxicated but when i reach sobriety again i am able to overcome those thoughts with logic and reasoning, regardless if they were negative or positive. So my question is what leads to this pseudo-faith that comes from the DMT experience and how do people distinguish it from a false, drug-induced concept to an idea or belief that has some validity.

Sorry if this is slightly off topic but i just find this subject so interesting as is all spirituality; and please don't take this post in a condescending way.
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Basically the best way I can answer this question is that DMT is nothing like other drugs. It's not like you take some LSD and think things and get all mixed up between the real world, and the hallucinations.

It kind of makes you realise there's something else out there that us humans have absolutely no understanding of. How does it do this? Well basically it just blasts whatever this mysterious thing is directly into your body, and takes over your mind and soul.

You're gone 10 minutes, and then you come back gibbering about what the fuck you just saw, and I even ran to the mirror to make sure I was alive.

It's a whole new experience.
Actually feeling something that is more powerful than you could have EVER comprehended, just three minutes ago when you were smoking a pipe of some new drug you hadn't tried yet, this is what changes you.
Of course you don't figure any of this out until you get back.

DMT is truly amazing, and yes terrifying until you just accept that you're there for at least 10 minutes, you relax and the wave of peace that washes over you is like a spiritual shower.
About as close to a meeting with God as you can get, whatever you interpret God to be.
 
^Very well said, pretty much my exact thoughts.

It doesnt give you an answer exactly, but it basically destroys the notion we have ANY idea on whats going on in the grand scheme of things.

One thing it really gave me was hope and relief. Never have I felt so belittled by any thing and so out of control and feeble.

Whatever you do, spread the vibes you pick up from this molecule.
 
Always use Hydrochloric Acid in any A/B extraction.

And please, if you're going to mess around with these highly volatile chemicals, know what a BASE and an ACID is.

8)
 
Yeah that shit is quite volatile and fumes emit from them. Like SoWhat!said its a good idea for anyone trying to attempt it to gather a lot of knowledge about the chemicals and etc
 
Thanks for the responses guys :)

Sowhat!, out of curiosity, why do you recommend ALWAYS using hydrochloric in ANY a/b extraction?

Oh and I'm very aware/informed on the chemicals and procedure in this particular extraction. Knowing what an acid and a base is, is the easy part ;)
 
Not so sure about DMT, however regarding Mescaline if hydrochloric acid is used the result is Mescaline HCl. If Sulphuric acid is used, the result is Mescaline sulfate. 200 mg mescaline sulfate = 178 mg (approx) mescaline HCl. Less yield, i assume the same applies with any A/B extraction involving plant matter.
 
^^ correct me if I'm wrong but Im pretty sure nearly all DMT extractions have an end result as a base which then has to be converted to a HCl salt??

thought the acid didnt effect the outcome of the final product in 'that sense'..
 
As i said, i was referring to Mescaline, not sure about DMT but i don't see why the same wouldn't apply?
 
TBH I wouldnt have a clue because I'm very inexperianced with any kind of chemistry let alone using Hydrochloric Acid..

surely someone can add there 2c on that particular subject? lol

either way, can anyone compare say hydrochloric acid ~ phosphoric acid in finial yield/quality of extraction??

thanks in advance
 
Acid/Base extractions are very easy, you don't need Chemistry knowledge but following the steps and understanding them is important. Understanding why you are using Xylene for example and then Hydrochloric acid is important. You don't need to know exactly what the chemicals are doing, but having a basic understanding of why they're used in what sequence is important.

I'd be reading up a lot before using volatile chemicals, or doing it with a knowledgeable friend for the first time.
 
SoWhat! said:
Not so sure about DMT, however regarding Mescaline if hydrochloric acid is used the result is Mescaline HCl. If Sulphuric acid is used, the result is Mescaline sulfate. 200 mg mescaline sulfate = 178 mg (approx) mescaline HCl. Less yield, i assume the same applies with any A/B extraction involving plant matter.
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Salts don't always have the same dosages/bioavailability meaning x amount of hydrochloride isn't always the same as x amount of sulphate, dosage wise. After A/B (Acid/base) DMT extraction you get base, freebase so with mescaline it's A/B plus salting out while he poster is asking about the acid in the A step.

pisspotnrock, distilled (white) vinegar is OK. I don't see any real gains with using phosporic or HCl.
 
SoWhat! said:
Acid/Base extractions are very easy, you don't need Chemistry knowledge but following the steps and understanding them is important. Understanding why you are using Xylene for example and then Hydrochloric acid is important. You don't need to know exactly what the chemicals are doing, but having a basic understanding of why they're used in what sequence is important.

I'd be reading up a lot before using volatile chemicals, or doing it with a knowledgeable friend for the first time.
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That's actually some good advice right there. :)
 
Managed to breakthrough last night on 60mg. Felt my head was going to explode LOL First time in my life that I had trouble breathing that bad, anyone else get that? Was hittin so hard could bearly cope hahaha ahhh fun times:)
 
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