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PsiloSubNaut said:
Simply putting the DMT in layers in a joint or on a cone tends to waste material

I used to layer it and the first time I used the mortar and pestle I saw what I had been missing out on, fuck it hit me for 6 in comparison to the old method
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I often wonder how far the extent of the experience would go if i used a different method.

I havn't touched DMT in a long time, the last time i used a bong was with a little bit of water, and packed a blend of roughly 50/50 crystal and changa to almost a full cone piece, and inhaled the entire thing in a single pull. I had only previously done tiny amounts, i was inexperienced at the time and had i known about working your way up.. i would not have jumped in the deep end, because my god..

It hit me so damm hard that i broke-through and it took me a good 20mins to remember anything remotely connected to memory of self or time, not to mention 10mins of intense body shaking.

However this was a blend, i have layered crystal onto dry lotus pettles prior to this, and i can definitely see the waste in material there. I've also used a wood pipe and a metal pipe to smoke it.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
By that I mean not to take the flame away as I see so many 'soft-core' stoners do halfway through a cone
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I always used an adjustable flame on it's smallest setting and took it away as soon as it lit so that it vaped. Same way I used to smoke the reefer.

Where these "soft-core" stoners getting really ripped by chance? as that is the way you are supposed to smoke the green IMO. That way the THC vapes rather than disintegrates.
 
Verybuffed said:
I always used an adjustable flame on it's smallest setting and took it away as soon as it lit so that it vaped. Same way I used to smoke the reefer.

Where these "soft-core" stoners getting really ripped by chance? as that is the way you are supposed to smoke the green IMO. That way the THC vapes rather than disintegrates.
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Sorry mate, I didn't put it in very understandable terms

I used to have heaps of mates that would pack big cones (to feel macho or whatever) and then barely light them so they could pull the whole cone and not choke on all the smoke....

It pissed me right off because there was always heaps of green floating in the water that didn't get heated enough to even go brown

An utter waste so they could feel good about themselves when they weren't even getting all the available THC

Have seen similar things with guys pulling chang without getting enough heat on it

You are correct that over heating destroys THC

Not overly sure with DMT (phase dancer?), it vapes at low temps but don't know if heat destroys it like with THC

Plenty of mates vape using mega big butane torches and swear by it
 
Trip report I wrote a few years ago when I was much less experienced and smoked a stupidly large cone of changa alone in my room. I went into it thinking everything would be fine, packed the cone, squished it down, packed it again (did this ~3 times), then smoked it.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=326651&highlight=ego

Immediately collapsed and spent the peak in the foetal position.

Also a question, is there much difference between changa and crystal DMT? in terms of effects. I've smoked plenty of changa but never had crystal DMT. Almost tried it during end of high school 'leavers', friends were sprinkling it ontop of cones of weed, but I didn't end up trying it.
 
I gotchya now Psilo, I understand exactly what you mean. Leaving green in the water is much worse than over cooking the bud!
 
puckboy said:
Trip report I wrote a few years ago when I was much less experienced and smoked a stupidly large cone of changa alone in my room. I went into it thinking everything would be fine, packed the cone, squished it down, packed it again (did this ~3 times), then smoked it.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=326651&highlight=ego

Immediately collapsed and spent the peak in the foetal position.
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Sounds like my first Sally experience, I was convinced I had been sold Cannabis leaf. I thought the same thing when I had a cabbie in Melbs trying to sell me Khat.
 
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It was only unpleasant initially when I had no fucking clue what was happening, let alone who I even was or what was going on. After that passed it was incredible. All the other times on lower doses have also been very euphoric, amazingly euphoric infact.
 
malakaix said:
I often wonder how far the extent of the experience would go if i used a different method.

I havn't touched DMT in a long time, the last time i used a bong was with a little bit of water, and packed a blend of roughly 50/50 crystal and changa to almost a full cone piece, and inhaled the entire thing in a single pull. I had only previously done tiny amounts, i was inexperienced at the time and had i known about working your way up.. i would not have jumped in the deep end, because my god..

It hit me so damm hard that i broke-through and it took me a good 20mins to remember anything remotely connected to memory of self or time, not to mention 10mins of intense body shaking.

However this was a blend, i have layered crystal onto dry lotus pettles prior to this, and i can definitely see the waste in material there. I've also used a wood pipe and a metal pipe to smoke it.
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I had gotten used to putting 60-80mg per cone and one day I made a chang using acetone technique, packed roughly a 60mg cone and was blasted into the stratosphere!

The trip started with me being prodded by elves, I then looked down to see the skin taken off half of my body and all my internals working.

I was in the full DMT realm for 15 minutes and not back to baseline 'till after the half hour mark

Proved to me how much I had been wasting and also showed me what a real 'break through' was ;)
 
Verybuffed said:
I gotchya now Psilo, I understand exactly what you mean. Leaving green in the water is much worse than over cooking the bud!
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These were meat heads that I can no longer hang around but yeah, used to shit me how they'd look at me weird for smoking level cones (properly) and then they would pack hey-stackers but not even light it, let alone clear the chamber :!

Trying to look macho 'I can pull big bongs' etc.

Yep, well done fuck head... Aren't you a big smart boy that I want to grow up to be like 8)
 
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Lol :) just for the record, the way I packed that cone of changa is not how I pack bongs of weed. I prefer them on the small/medium side and loosely packed so it burns properly and pulls in one, but thats a bit offtopic.

The reason I did that with the changa that time was because I was at a time in my life where I was absolutely fascinated by users reports of high-dose DMT and also in particular the state of ego-loss/dissociation. And obviously by my reaction was naive to actually how intense it would be.
 
It will certainly learn you like no other

It's so easy to be naive

I think we've all been guilty of that at some point in our drug taking careers

To say that a decent dose of DMT is instant LSDx1000 is an understatement and you simply can't be prepared for it

I say have it with an experienced user and make sure you have a small 'test' dose in case you have a naturally low tolerance to DMT
 
I like informing users about drugs and their effects ;)

It's hard to say shibada123

There is a body load but it is very euphoric and relaxing. I find this much more noticeable on lower doses but this would be due to being more aware of my body than on the higher break through doses

You can get a heavy feeling in your head but also throughout the rest of your body
 
I think that feeling of being crushed by some kind of force is more related to 5-MeO-DMT then N,N-DMT (mainly just referred to as DMT), you may have been reading that in regard to 5-MeO-DMT, shibada123, as I've read of people saying it can feel like an elephant is sitting on them during the experience. Never tried 5-MeO-DMT myself though, just N,N-DMT. Both have similar effects however from what I've read, though some differences also obviously. 5-MeO-DMT being much more potent dosage-wise.
 
Puckboys trip sounds a bit like my first shot at DMT.

A mate (E) and i had been out to see Fake Blood, couldnt find any weed for afterwards so, like the geniuses we are, decided we should try out the changa i'd gotten. We'd been meaning to try it for a while and it seemed like an obvious choice.

We didnt have any smoking implements so we made a waterfall bong out of a 2 litre bottle with a conepiece made from a cut up coke can. We didnt really know the right dosage but the mate i'd bought it off said there was ~6 strong trips in the bag, so thats what we went by. 1/6th was too much for a first time, i probably should have had 1/10th of the bag.

Anyway, we pack the cone, light it and watch masses of THICK smoke fill the bottle. I'm much more into psychedelics than E so i had the first one. I put on Divine Moments of Truth by Shpongle, sat in a bean bag and inhaled. E told me i "waved goodbye" to him just after having the hit.

The body buzz was really unfamiliar and uncomfortable. The only way i could describe it is "crisp" and maybe "spiky". Immediately i thought "shit, this is strong, i'm not sure i like this" and i saw a 3 "scenes" that morphed into each other over and over. I kept thinking "i dont like this, its uncomfortable", not freaking out, but hoping it would end soon.
I managed to calm myself down, telling myself i'd taken a drug ,i'd be fine, just relax, etc. and the moment i calmed down the visuals completely changed into a vast, flowing, everchanging landscape for the rest of the trip that was absolutely divine.

I also had something speaking to me using a language of apparantly nonsense words. i dont remember most of it but theres a few "phrases" i remember:
ummings disms
owings down stous
lipity down stous

At the time i couldnt tell if it was an entity or my brain turning to mush

Once my leg comes out of its cast i'll have to explore DMT space again, at a lower dosage this time =D
 
talking jibirish is not uncommon.
dont EVER smoke it standing up cuz u will probably fall over. just like if u were doing nitrous dont try to walk around. be in a semi-dark room i reackon is best. and when u took ur hits make sure ur friend takes ur pipe from u becuase u might drop it. :)
 
awesome post Psilo. it just filled in a lot of gaps in my research of this chemical. one that has interested me for some time but fills me as much with trepidation as it does with curiosity. great info and more food for thought.
 
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