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Thought this is relevant.

There is no pay wall, just close out the first screen if your not interested in contributing and you get to the episode.


Crazy times and fear can manipulate targeted change.. I just listened to that episode this morning and it fucked with me pretty hard for half the day.



In conclusion... if you fold to a political correctness agenda, then you are submitting to being manipulated and held to it.. period.

Bluelights rich freethinking history is the reason the drug taking stigma has been successfully countered? Or does it stem from.. those drug takers must be alright as they are politically correct or barring that they chose to be politically censured.

I really have reservations that our forum is so sensitive and scared we are rolling this way. Personally I have been through so much, so post me whiskey and piss in the skim milk.. where has skim milk got anybody.

Ban political discussion because it causes controversy.. because it isn't the forums focus? Because allowing it creates fear .. maybe let it role because there seems to be a really significant global social struggle going down with world changing political dynamics.

Idk thats not the spirit of the bluelight? I stumbled across her (BL) so many years ago and was initially terrified to post.. I mean these insane people are posting about all kinds of drugs and like using them.


I know everything evolves and developes.. just really never want to museum the long held bluelight uniqueness of being able to express your views as long as they adhere to the BLUA.

I just listened to that episode this weekend - it was both unsettling and refreshing to hear discussion about what Americans are facing and trying to understand on a human level (rather than on a political level). I feel like the political discussion often covers up the actual human impact of the actions of the state. My cousin, a conservative and Trump supporter, is flying to China next month for work. It's a trip that was planned last fall and has nothing to do with the current trade war that's going on. I was talking with him on Easter and he was telling me that he's nervous about going there - afraid of being arrested. We were also discussing the economic realities that are impacting members of our family, and in particular, in a family owned vacation home that is seeing much less interest this summer due to an enormous drop in international travel to Cape Cod. I avoided getting into the politics of it, as he's my cousin and I love him. He knows where I stand, I'm not going to convince him to see things differently, but I could push him away by trying to challenge his views. I personally hope that some of the real human impact of what continues to be occurring helps him and others to see beyond political affiliation, and maybe consider these things moving forward.

I don't like political correctness - it's lazy and ineffective. I also think that the real social struggle you mention is making it hard to create space that doesn't devolve into anger and hostility. We are in the midst of an escalated culture war that urges us to choose sides which makes it harder for people to stop and look at the problematic things their own side is culpable of. It reminds me of Red Sox/Yankees in the mid-00s (politics in the US often remind me of sports). Red Sox fans were quick to vilify the steroid use of Jason Giambi and A-Rod, but fiercely defensive of Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz. It created this looming sense of hypocrisy any time steroid use was brought up and players for 'the other team' were seen as the problem while 'our team' was not viewed through the same lens.
 
Agreed.
I recall being threatened with a ban for speaking out about the potential presence of Nazis and sympathizers on our forums despite not naming any individuals.
The right-wing echo chamber has gone on for too long, and I am glad to see @alasdairm and others working to change it.
I’m glad to see that you’ve had a change of heart!
As the person who was involved in this situation - you're not being fully transparent. I talked with you about the issue and informed you that a ban was a potential outcome. I then gave you time (several hours over an audio call) to help me understand where you were coming from and why a ban would be happening. I then considered what had happened, and considered what you said, and chose not to impose a point which would have triggered said ban.

Please don't twist the situation around to make a point - you were given the space to make your case and I listened and rendered my decision based on that. As a result, you weren't given a point and you didn't end up with a 3 month automatic ban resulting from accumulated points.
 
i'm told that ce&p was both a liberal echo chamber and a right-wing echo chamber, perhaps at the same time? i'm just trying to get my head round that :)

I never engaged much in CEPs because I'm not interested in politics. But from what little I saw it was OK. Different opinions were posted by people with different temperaments and backgrounds, and why not?
That’s what diversity is.

Hard to moderate?
Maybe.
Or maybe not that much if it's in the hand of a team that can represent the different tendencies. And supervised by someone who is not drawn to one side ot the other and thus can see things from an objective point of view.
 
The mod who edited the quoted post:
Did you do it to protect arrall from being reported, or because you felt offended by his wordplay with my former handle?
Because I thought that to be the best part of his reply.
The post was reported and a decision was made to edit it while discussed further. I'm not the person who edited the post, nor am I the person that edited it. Sometimes these things are addressed in multiple steps (as you know since we've worked together a number of times).
 
Have you ever made a wrong turn because the ppl in front of you are driving so slow that you're about to lose your mind, and then you turn around, and start going the right way again, and they're gone within that 30 seconds of rerouting

It works every time and I'm not sure how
 
I also feel like I'm using the force when I turn the GPS off even tho idk where I'm going

I just let go
 
Have you ever made a wrong turn because the ppl in front of you are driving so slow that you're about to lose your mind, and then you turn around, and start going the right way again, and they're gone within that 30 seconds of rerouting

It works every time and I'm not sure how
I had a guy try to cut around me in a single lane rotary in a way that was really dangerous - I was so focused on not getting hit by him that I realized I was passing my turnoff and ended up having to get off the next turnoff which set me back like 7 minutes.
 
that was the funniest thing i have ever read. but Soo true. omg rotf. I promise I am leaving this time.

I hav'nt read anything that good like ever ... like the top ten. Thank you for your comment.

That was so good. And yet so wrong somehow. We are stuck being amiricans I guess. 💔 i surrender.

I'm stuck.

omg this was so good that one spun me. please don't get mad ...... it's just a fact.


..... i'm going for real. i'ms orry for speaking to thou directly and causing shame and embarrassment

I am just not worthy. I'm sure
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This should be up on the Banner I swear to gawwd.
I'm picturing a head spinning around.
But what can you say.

I'm really sorry. Iv'e never read it that good in my life. That was perfect. you get the dinner. 😂

I'm sorry ... I gotta die laughing. But you did good lol.

You one upped it so good.

Don't get mad or angry ... because I just wanted to suggest that is just too good not to be up on a banner.


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The was the happiest comment yet for me. Just made my day. Loools.

If this thread wasn't made to be funny. And it's not. It's still so good it should be up on a Banner.

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I know. I'm in trouble now.

~~~ Bye. <3






i'm going to leave it for now. unless people start attacking each other with insults and abuse, people can have their say. some seem to be posting and discussing in good faith. others not so much. draw your own conclusions.

i'm told that ce&p was both a liberal echo chamber and a right-wing echo chamber, perhaps at the same time? i'm just trying to get my head round that :)

alasdair
 
" i'm told that ce&p was both a liberal echo chamber and a right-wing echo chamber, perhaps at the same time? i'm just trying to get my head round that :) "

alasdair
 
Have you ever been stuck behind someone going painfully slowly for so long that when you finally could, you accelerated right up next to them, not to give them the finger or to try to start a fight, just because you needed to see what this person LOOKS LIKE!!
George Carlin
 
it still makes my stomach hurt when I read it .. from laughing

ty ? I can't read it without it having an affect. 😭

I need to go to the Rainfforest. Fcn civilization at it's best.

It doesn't get any better. 💙💜❤️
 
Have you ever been stuck behind someone going painfully slowly for so long that when you finally could, you accelerated right up next to them, not to give them the finger or to try to start a fight, just because you needed to see what this person LOOKS LIKE!!
George Carlin
Yeah, why do they call a road you drive on a parkway? And then call the road you park on a driveway? George Carlin again, and I believe.
 
Have you ever been stuck behind someone going painfully slowly for so long that when you finally could, you accelerated right up next to them, not to give them the finger or to try to start a fight, just because you needed to see what this person LOOKS LIKE!!
George Carlin
I had some guy race up to the stop light right beside me. I could tell he was staring at me and making gestures. Against my better judgement I looked over. Young guy. He was trying to get me to play " rock, paper scissors". We played a couple rounds, the light changed, we waved goodbye and went out separate ways
 
All cars should be equipped with mounted guns. Not that shoot bullets, they shoot an arrow with a suction cup and flag. When someone cuts you off or whatever, you shoot an arrow and stick a flag to the car. Any car with 3 or more flags stuck to it, the cops pull over and give the driver a ticket for being an asshole.
Also Carlin
 
All cars should be equipped with mounted guns. Not that shoot bullets, they shoot an arrow with a suction cup and flag. When someone cuts you off or whatever, you shoot an arrow and stick a flag to the car. Any car with 3 or more flags stuck to it, the cops pull over and give the driver a ticket for being an asshole.
Also Carlin
And on that car will be a bumper sticker that says “my kid is an honor student.” But on Carlin‘s car he has a bumper sticker that says “my kid sold drugs to your honor student kid“.

OK, I’m stopping.

Hope you all work out whatever it is you’re working out. I just started reading this thread. And I know you all like each other. Otherwise, you wouldn’t logon looking for each other every day.
 
Arent those yellow "New Driver" back window stickers great?
I never woulda figured that out in a million years

put your fucking phone down idiot

Edit: I recently read that drivers here are "dying at record numbers on our highways" ...
so we need to raise taxes to fix the highways

politics as usual
guns kill people now highways do too
 
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