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Candies, diphenhydramine is known to make RLS worse for some. It is a known sleep aid and many of us have tried to use it during wd and many bluelighters have reported the same thing. The dormin that's in you guys dope is the same thing so you may also have a tolerance to it.
 
Johnny blue said:
Candies, diphenhydramine is known to make RLS worse for some. It is a known sleep aid and many of us have tried to use it during wd and many bluelighters have reported the same thing. The dormin that's in you guys dope is the same thing so you may also have a tolerance to it.
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Hey Johnny - isn't it also an allergy medicine? That's what they use in Tylenol PM. Years ago Benedryl and such made me very sleepy, but when I got older and my body chemistry changed, it turned into speed to me. Is this the same sort of stuff? I'd be afraid it would be speedy.

Hypothesis:
Maybe why I find my dope less noddy more "Requiem from a Dream" speedy - aka cleaning the house/perky/great mood! Maybe because it's cut with dormin?

Just a posit. Wonder if it could be the case?
Thanks Johnny B!
Gwennie
 
Usually all opiates speed me up, especially the oxy's. When I do oxy's I'm bouncing off the walls, I can't sit still but this stuff I get from the west side puts me to sleep. For me its gotta be the dormin.
 
Johnny blue said:
Candies, diphenhydramine is known to make RLS worse for some. It is a known sleep aid and many of us have tried to use it during wd and many bluelighters have reported the same thing. The dormin that's in you guys dope is the same thing so you may also have a tolerance to it.
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Yep. that's why I always wait til I've been kicking for at least 4-5 days before I take any kind of antihistamine/diphenhydramine. Anything of that sort makes me a little restless with or without WDs, but knocks me out eventually so it's worth it in the end if I wait for the right time.

And Gwen, I feel the same way. Whenever I use I want to get up and do SOMETHING. I'll clean, go to work, blah blah blah, and feel GREAT about it. Weird. Maybe just the feeling of being "happy" cuz I'm using makes me feel more productive? Who knows.
 
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Yep. that's why I always wait til I've been kicking for at least 4-5 days before I take any kind of antihistamine/diphenhydramine. Anything of that sort makes me a little restless with or without WDs, but knocks me out eventually so it's worth it in the end if I wait for the right time.

And Gwen, I feel the same way. Whenever I use I want to get up and do SOMETHING. I'll clean, go to work, blah blah blah, and feel GREAT about it. Weird. Maybe just the feeling of being "happy" cuz I'm using makes me feel more productive? Who knows.
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Same with me. I am so productive on opiates and I am very listless without them. I get a lot done at work, I do a lot at home, yardwork etc. and I exercise like a madman. I few years ago I used to ride a bike alot, before a bad accident, and I used to nod while riding.
 
for me its the opposite when i use opi's..i dont want to do anything but comeon here or watch tv. i dont want to have to run around and do a bunch of bullshit cause i fee like im wasting my high. i just like to do nothing and fully enjoy the high, instead of doing a bunch of shit like cleaning or cutting hte grass or whatever..i just feel like being active takes away from the potentcy of the high. kind of like how after you smoke weed and get the muchies, once you eat you dont feel like your that high anymore and want to smoke again. even though you smoked just 20 min before and really are still high, your gonna take another rip off the bong. thats how i feel when i do my dope and then procede to be active

now oxy was the only pill the made me kinda speedy and up to do things but i think that it is because its an ER pill and intended to last 8-12 hours by releasing the drug slowly. so when they make it i feel like they put something in it to give you a little energy boost so your not feeling all sluggish and slow all day long, and can get work or whatever else done. otherwise taking a powerful pill like that might make you really tired and not able to focus and do your work..now of course i have no proof or anything like that, i came to that conclusion a while ago by myself cause i noticed i got speedy from it and when i asked around other people did too. i could be 100% wrong though, i dont know

also even though ive never been able to get high from it, subxone gives me that uplifting energy boost too. ill take it and an hour later i feel like a million bucks and that i had no habit at all
 
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i also meant to ask why do you use that 'zzzQuil' to sleep if your not sick? especially a drug that i would think you have a tolerance too, diphenhydramine. there are so many other sleepaids out there that dont have the extra shit that thinkgs like tylenol PM have, and they also dont contain diphenhydramine, so it will actually have a positive effect on you.
 
Chinky you should try getting high and going for a bike ride, especially on a nice day. I used to love doing that and just watch the world through my rosey buzz.
 
I think you get energy from the opiates until your really in and your tolerance is is big cause I used to get energy from it now either I do enough to nod or I dont get high at all
 
i dont think its the opiates that are giving you the energy boost, i think its just your body responding to the dope and making youthink you feel alot better.what i mean is if your sick or even if your not, generally your gonna be just normal maybe a little lethargic or whatever, just nothing spe4cial but when you start to do the dope and get high, your blood starts to pump a little, and you get a little excited and i think thats where the "energy" comes from.i think its all in your head, i think its just you being excited to finally use the drugs. you might have been tired before you got high, but as soon as you do them your good to go..also if opiates gave you energy why do they have all the warnings on the bottles about not driving and may cause drowsiness and all that?

and welder...naw man id rather take a bike ride, come home, shower and then get high as like a reward for working out..if i got high then went for the bike ride, i feel like i would be wasting the dope and not enjoying it. getting out and getting your blood pumping and sweating is increasing your metabolism and by doing that it makes the dope run threw your system faster. at least i think it would, to me it feels like it does atleast
 
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Well then sit in your bedroom by yourself and get high. I like to do that too but I also like to hang out by a river or sit in a park and read books or work on something out in the garage. It has never felt like wasting a high to me.

Whatever works for you though it's your buzz.
 
So, I been down in Texas for about a year this past year on business and I will be heading back home to Chicago in a few weeks. This will be interesting once I get back to actually compare the two different kinds of dope. Previously I had went to the east coast, and came back to Chicago and the main difference I noticed other than packaging was it appeared that dope out of Jersey seemed liked the same kind as in Chicago except without the dorm cut so it was much smaller amounts and you seemed to avoid that excessive drowsy feeling you sometimes get from too much cut in the chi-dope.

Texas dope I been getting has been some tar, but mostly powder. However, the powder I have got will normally cook down into a real dark brown to almost black color. I think what they are doing here is getting tar and mixing it with lactose to get it into a powder form. Anyway, it's hard to tell which is better because can never tell with tolerance going up and down as it does. After I get back into Chicago and have a chance to try a few blows I will report back in case anyone is curious.

That's freakin badass to see another Chicago dope thread back up. In the past I remember being able to say something like "The red tapes on the corner of 'x' and 'y' have been fire this week!" I'm assuming that's part of the reason it got shut down before. So, regarding that statement, was it the portion that stated "...The red tapes...have been fire this week!" or "...corner of 'x' and 'y'..." that was breaking the rules or hell, maybe even both are going against the rules?

Be Safe Everyone!
 
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i dont think its the opiates that are giving you the energy boost, i think its just your body responding to the dope and making youthink you feel alot better.what i mean is if your sick or even if your not, generally your gonna be just normal maybe a little lethargic or whatever, just nothing spe4cial but when you start to do the dope and get high, your blood starts to pump a little, and you get a little excited and i think thats where the "energy" comes from.i think its all in your head, i think its just you being excited to finally use the drugs. you might have been tired before you got high, but as soon as you do them your good to go..also if opiates gave you energy why do they have all the warnings on the bottles about not driving and may cause drowsiness and all that?

and welder...naw man id rather take a bike ride, come home, shower and then get high as like a reward for working out..if i got high then went for the bike ride, i feel like i would be wasting the dope and not enjoying it. getting out and getting





blood pumping and sweating is increasing your metabolism and by doing that it makes the dope run threw your system faster. at least i think it would, to me it feels like it does atleast
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you may be right chinky,I dont do anything when im high,I also save doing the dope like a reward,after cleaning or working all week.
 
Oxy and other opiates that are derived from thebaine are known to be stimulating, the ones that are derived from poppies such as heroin are known to be more sedating, fyi. It's proven science, not just how you are reacting to it. Although when I do heroin I get energetic for around the first hour or so then I start to get really noddy, im a sniffer so IDK if it's way different than shooting it.
 
Is it really? Wow so every single opiate comes from poppy?

Damn that makes me really want to try opium, you'd get a mix of the stimulating and sedating alkaloids.
 
Yea it really is found in a variety of poppy.

Not all opiates come from the opium poppy though. Natural opiates come from poppy, but can be made synthetically as well. There's also semi-synthetic opiates such as heroin and oxycodone. Then there are synthetic opiates such as fentanyl and methadone.
 
Ah yeah, I knew that. So the semi-synthetics start with a base alkaloid from the poppy and then through various chemical reactions come to be what they are? Such as morphine gaining two acetyl groups to become heroin?
 
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