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The Cannabis Discussion Thread
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TripppAR
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Yeh that guy was fucked big time man. They attended (use the term loosely) an after party we had in the city one time and just sat in the hallway while everyone used drugs 20 + people getting fucked and they just refused to enter the hotel room
IT. WAS . WEIRD.
IT. WAS . WEIRD.
yagecero
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This is a cool thread :D Where are the most-public places (not expected places, like a concert or festival) people have smoked? I don't smoke as often in public these days, as I can't afford to get a conviction, but I've smoked in a huge crowd of people at a famous outdoor cinema in the gardens a few summers ago.
I'd had a few too many glasses of red and even though there were probably around 800 people there I just lit up because I could. My friends all lit up cigarettes to mask the odour and when nobody reacted they were all "pass that over here".
Back when you were allowed to smoke cigarettes inside at clubs it was a bit ambiguous too. Sometimes it was fine to smoke a joint, but I remember getting thrown out of a couple of places for it, even in a smoke filled club of gurning people.
But then again, after the smoking laws were introduced, the owners of an old local bar of mine (in a popular suburb) didn't seem to mind my friends and I smoking green on the rooftop while we drank their beer.
It really is one of those things that's hard to predict.
Juvenile
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Recently became no longer subject to invasive work random tests. Oh what joy!
Had some green for the first time in years over the weekend. Smelt, tasted and felt good! I had it at a mates place after a big arvo / evening on MDMA. Perfect!
If it wasn't for the threat of sniffers at the festival, I would have taken a joint or 2 in with me. As it turned out there were none, but better safe than sorry.
^Hell yeah, joints in clubs, now I remember the downsides of the no smoking in clubs law, it meant green too! Used to love a mid gurn joint in a DnB club night back in the day.
The other downsides of no smoking include the bits outside the club where I used to go to get fresh cool night air when things were getting a bit sweaty are now Smokey as, plus the smell of ciggies used to cover up the smell of peoples disgusting crowd dusting farts.
Had some green for the first time in years over the weekend. Smelt, tasted and felt good! I had it at a mates place after a big arvo / evening on MDMA. Perfect!
If it wasn't for the threat of sniffers at the festival, I would have taken a joint or 2 in with me. As it turned out there were none, but better safe than sorry.
^Hell yeah, joints in clubs, now I remember the downsides of the no smoking in clubs law, it meant green too! Used to love a mid gurn joint in a DnB club night back in the day.
The other downsides of no smoking include the bits outside the club where I used to go to get fresh cool night air when things were getting a bit sweaty are now Smokey as, plus the smell of ciggies used to cover up the smell of peoples disgusting crowd dusting farts.
Sustanon
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Do u guys rekon there is a chance that in say 10-20 years time there will be medical MJ available in Australia like some of the other countries? If we are following and licking America's ass (cos thats what we are doing right now) then why cant we have it?
^ that's a progressive, logical idea. so no, not in australia.
to respond to the post about smoking in public, when i was in high school we went on a geography excursion to the hills outside perth. on the bus on the way there (full of students and two teachers) i pulled out my bong and me and a couple of other guys started hitting it. i smoked 3 cones before we got to our first destination and continued smoking wherever we stopped to do whatever educational stuff we went to do.
i don't know if the teachers knew, but about halfway through the day, the bus driver (some crusty dude they'd hired) came to the back of the bus and said "now guys, i know what you're doing, and if you don't wanna get caught, you need to open that window and that window"
i started opening the window where i was sitting and he said "no, just that one and that one"
the guy knew his shit.
to respond to the post about smoking in public, when i was in high school we went on a geography excursion to the hills outside perth. on the bus on the way there (full of students and two teachers) i pulled out my bong and me and a couple of other guys started hitting it. i smoked 3 cones before we got to our first destination and continued smoking wherever we stopped to do whatever educational stuff we went to do.
i don't know if the teachers knew, but about halfway through the day, the bus driver (some crusty dude they'd hired) came to the back of the bus and said "now guys, i know what you're doing, and if you don't wanna get caught, you need to open that window and that window"
i started opening the window where i was sitting and he said "no, just that one and that one"
the guy knew his shit.
yagecero
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Probably not now that Obama is cracking down on the dispensaries throughout California and other states, even though before being elected he categorically said that he'd end the Bush-era federal pressure on the states regarding their own laws on medicinal marijuana.
It's no coincidence that Big Pharma has begun third stage trials in the U.S with cannabinoid derivative sativex at all8)
I would rather push for the growing of a couple of outdoor plants to be legalised. Especially considering what the propaganda machine suggests about the super-duper-smoke-one-joint-and-become-schizophrenic-hydro-pot 8( that is SOOOO dangerous to mental health. 8)
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I'd love to see some sort of loosening up of regulation, if not at the very least decriminalisation (not likely ever to be legalised). I was recently living in Colombia, and in one of the main cities, Medellin there is actually a small park where people are allowed to smoke up, where police will actively turn a blind eye. Its great. The park is also surrounded by a bunch of cool bohemian salsa bars and clubs, and most of them will let you smoke a j inside. Also, not surprisingly it was where the best weed (and or coke) could be bought from, and typically of stoners, they were honest and wouldn't try to play you and give you a shtty deal, if anything they'd throw in a bit extra. :D
Sadly SWIM's contacts aren't supplying here in Melb anymore and it's been difficult to score.
Sadly SWIM's contacts aren't supplying here in Melb anymore and it's been difficult to score.
as howard marks always points out, anything but legalisation gives money to "criminals" because if cultivating and supplying is still illegal (as it technically is everywhere in the world) it still has to be obtained underground, no matter how 'decriminalised' it is.
i just wish our legislators weren't so lacking in genuine leadership on the issue.
i think our best bet is to push for widespread support of the idea of legalisation, so that eventually it is a politically useful thing to persue. until then, our 'leaders' will chase the "oh my god drugs are bad" vote, as they seem to do so successfully now.
i just wish our legislators weren't so lacking in genuine leadership on the issue.
i think our best bet is to push for widespread support of the idea of legalisation, so that eventually it is a politically useful thing to persue. until then, our 'leaders' will chase the "oh my god drugs are bad" vote, as they seem to do so successfully now.
drug_mentor
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I don't stay nearly as updated on such issues as I should but that makes me SICK to my stomach. What a useless cunt Obama turned out to be, biggest let down ever (not that I ever believed the hype tbh) and big Pharma has no fucking shame. I don't really see medical MJ taking off here either as there just seems to be very little push for it and we are headed a conservative direction as it is. If we were ever to see medical MJ I reckon it would be a LOOOOONG time (if ever!) we saw laws as liberal as Californias.
yagecero
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A very sad +1^
If you factor in the issue of people using high cannabinoid strains of pot to treat anxiety and a plethora of other psychological issues as well as pain/appetite management it's not difficult to see how much of the market the dispensaries have already taken from big Pharma.
It really is a massive fucking joke.
On another note, I went to the smoke shop the other day and bought myself a couple of peace-pipes, what are you guys that smoke bongs going to do post Jan 1st?
While I was there I had a conversation with a guy that was buying himself a couple of glass "ornaments" before the ban comes into effect. He was joking about buying the store out and starting his own business next year.
I asked the girl at the store what the deal was with pipes and whether they'd be illegal to sell as well, but she said that she was unsure and they were a bit of a grey area. Is it all smoking implements (including pipes, stems, cones etc) that will become illegal, or just bongs?
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MrIbis
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Mark Renton
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Always kind of thought that the price of pot would go up if legalised even medicinally so......just like ciggerettes and alchohol
Sustanon
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There are heaps of things u can smoke out of smoking implements not just buds so I doubt it can ever be illegal. Thats like banning scales because we use them to measure certain substances. Would be bad if it did happen, then we are really getting controlled by the government (sif we arnt already)
Mr Blonde
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To be fair to Obama, the state AG's involved in the crack down claim they acted independently of him. There were quite a few articles on Digg about this a little while back, with many commentators speculating that they were covering up for Obama going back on his position before the election.
the thing about people blaming obama personally for everything wrong with what the american government does is that even though he is the leader of the country, he is also just one part of an enormous (corporately co-opted) bureaucracy.
sure he represents his party, sure he has the power of veto in congress, but i think the criticism directed at him personally shows how naive most people are in regard to the workings of big-time politics.
if he were to (attempt to) implement every change that were right and just, he'd be out of a job, put it that way.
the president of the united states is somewhat of a figurehead. yes, the buck stops with him, but that doesn't mean he has direct influence or final say on every decision made. there is a lot of compromise necessary in politics.
and the thing about america is that it is made up of many interests - some military, some religious, some conservative, some progressive (not so much) a variety of lobby groups and interests - and maintaining power means attempting to please as many of these as possible.
in a country that started the so called war on drugs, it would be a bit foolish to think that change will be as quick and as painless as it has been so far in the acceptance of medical marijuana. i know it has been a long time coming, but i think if you take all things into account it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
fingers crossed though.
at least if it fails there, australia might consider acknowledging it; we seem to mimic whatever fails everywhere else.
cynical much?
sure he represents his party, sure he has the power of veto in congress, but i think the criticism directed at him personally shows how naive most people are in regard to the workings of big-time politics.
if he were to (attempt to) implement every change that were right and just, he'd be out of a job, put it that way.
the president of the united states is somewhat of a figurehead. yes, the buck stops with him, but that doesn't mean he has direct influence or final say on every decision made. there is a lot of compromise necessary in politics.
and the thing about america is that it is made up of many interests - some military, some religious, some conservative, some progressive (not so much) a variety of lobby groups and interests - and maintaining power means attempting to please as many of these as possible.
in a country that started the so called war on drugs, it would be a bit foolish to think that change will be as quick and as painless as it has been so far in the acceptance of medical marijuana. i know it has been a long time coming, but i think if you take all things into account it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
fingers crossed though.
at least if it fails there, australia might consider acknowledging it; we seem to mimic whatever fails everywhere else.
cynical much?
TripppAR
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At the end of the day ONE intrests rules all of them. Money.
And the people that control the money control them all.
And the people that control the money control them all.
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