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hey spacejunk, i was just checking out the no2 and think ill be investing soon, either that or a launchbox. i too just started vapin 6ish months ago ("shitty" chinese box vape, sure u know the type, ive gt no probs with it apart from portability) just wondering how battery goes; how many hits u take per pack, how many packs per charge and charging times, oh and what sorta temps? launch box seems super fucking cool from design point of view but all those fucking aa batteries would just seem like a hassel, if im out and about (and preaching to everyone who will listen) id need a couple dozen batteries. could always use the ac adaptor but that kinda detracts from the point of having somethin that fits in your palm and with that and batteries im sure cost would mount.
 
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hmm...i'm not sure i know how to answer all of those questions.
i tend to leave mine plugged in while i vape and then let it run down. i'm not sure how good the battery life is, for this reason.
i know that you can get an accessory that allows you to charge it in a car cigarette lighter, which is pretty cool. i think if you charged it up before going out and then turned it off, you'd likely get at least a couple of hits out of it (maybe more) but i can't really verify that because i've only ever used mine in my home or wherever i'm staying. it's nice to be able to get high in a no-smoking hotel room :)

after packing a hit, i tend to hit it for 10+ minutes.
something cool i've noticed is that the more i use the vaporiser, the more "vape resin" seems to build up inside it.
it's not like skanky bong resin, it's like a sweet liquid form of the vapours that have solidified in the mouth tube or something. liquid hash oil.
these seem to heat up over time, and i tend to get heaps of really nice hits long after i would assume the weed inside would be spent.
these vapours - i don't know what to call them, but they're like post-herb residual vapours - are not in any way inferior to the vapour from the weed, it's like smoking nice hash.
so it kinda makes an informed judgement about how many hits you get from one packing kinda hard to make.
i can tell you it is fucking brilliant - but i'm afraid i can't give you a really good answer. i'm sure someone on Bluelight could though, in Cannabis Discussion subforum. i understand the importance of making the right purchase decision because they are so expensive and so many to choose from on the market that you need to get the right one for your needs.

oh, but i generally set the temp at ~375 degrees Fahrenheit and then move it up to 400 degrees (the max. temp) for a second lot of vape. i've read that different cannabinoids vapourise at different temperatures, and the pot certainly seem to get a new lease on life when you turn up the temperature for a second go at it.
i'm not particularly well-versed in these matters, and just use it as i've been shown by friends. i should do some more research to learn how to get the most out of it.
the mouth tube gets a bit moist with this oil, and i know a guy who sticks a cigarette in there to clean it out, then smokes the cigarette and gets really high.
on top of the fact that i use a keif grinder (collecting hash for later) and i get a heap of bonus smoke from the vaporiser, i feel like i'm getting the absolute best from my weed. when i found out i can cook with the vaped buds, i realised that i'm pretty much getting 3 or 4 different highs from the same bud. certainly helps justify the expense of a vapouriser for me.
i have a pretty high weed tolerance - especially for edible cannabis - and the 2-3 grams of vaped buds i cooked were almost too much, and i lost a whole day.
i'm never going back to combusting my cannabis.
 
I find the times when i need weed i can never get on and the times i dont its around!!! Ah i miss getting baked....
 
I havent been able to get any all this yr (or cant be fucked paying the prices some of my contacts wont to charge) and have saved a heap of money and also am remembering my dreams each morning without fail and the dreams are really amazing. So I guess i've quit since its been about a month now since i smoked weed last. Pretty good for me. lol
 
i definitely think cutting back is a good thing - in terms of finances, tolerance and the dream thing is quite interesting, i get the same thing. the less i smoke the higher i get, so i try not to smoke too heavily, or it becomes unsustainable. i'm not one of these macho stoners with something to prove...!
i like to lean on what i call my 'stoner insurance policy' - my kief grinder is a godsend in the dry times. i've had mine for about 8 years and even when i've scraped it clean, i always seem to be able to find more in it, somewhere in the thread of where it screws together or by taking a toothbrush to the mesh. there have been times it's saved me for weeks, months even. not a bad way to wean yourself off cannabis, either.
then when i get more weed, it gets replenished! fucking awesome.
 
Poledrive it's crazy how vivid dreams get when you quit weed aye, its almost like a psychedelic experience.

Funny I have actually got onto some really nice smoke reasonably cheaper than I would usually pay going back to an old contact. At first glance it looked an d smelled pretty much exactly like the same solid hydro my regular dude has had the last couple times, later on when I had a better whiff of it though it had a sort of spicyness to it and definately has a trippy edge when smoked. I always wake up in the middle of the night for a smoke and the first night of having this stuff it induced a really strange state that was like in between dreaming and being awake (particularly odd since I NEVER dream while I am using cannabis daily), I wasn't on any other drugs apart from the usual amount of alcohol drank earlier in the night and a couple benzos.

A few nights have passed and despite waking up in the middle of the night to smoke as usual I haven't been able to replicate the experience, a real shame because it was quite novel. Atleast I still have nice, cheap green for the mo' though. :)

LOL at stoner insurance policy Spacejunk, I have like 3! I always try score when I get down to about a quarter or so plus I also have 3 individually packed grams of three different strains that I NEVER allow myself to touch unless I run out of all other weed. Only once in ten years have I had to crack into that stash. Every 3 or 4 months I replace them though so the weed doesn't go stale or mouldy.

I smoke reasonably heavily and at times have smoked ridiculously heavily. I don't do it to be macho or something, I just have a pretty high tolerance to weed. I have known a good number of lucky people who's tolerance seemed to plateau at only needing 3-5 cones to get rather stoned despite smoking numerous times daily for years. When I was a bit younger on the weekends we would have massive smoke sessions in groups and I guess a lot of that was smoking for the sake of it, these days though I smoke pretty much the bare minimum I need to get the feeling I want... Sadly still end up having to punch down 10+ cones in a row just to be able to fucking sleep though, and thats usually whilst drunk! :\
 
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growing season

so any BLers got some bushies this season? care to show any pics of the progress or mention the progress??

I was givin a mostly sativa cutting about three weeks ago (so fairly late in the outdoor season) and its takin off!! it had only just rooted when it was givin to me (and thus the transition from indoor to outdoor) and showed little to no signs of new growth.. now it is nearly a foot tall and as sooo many 'branchs' for a sativa (almost as if it was 'topped' at a young age if you know what I mean).. I can tell she isnt gonna be very tall but she will be very 'wide' with the way its branchin out at the moment..

Ill chuck some flicks up when it progress a bit more :D
 
d_m, you wake up to smoke? is that for the tobacco hit, or are you a disturbed sleeper?

i used to have a huge weed tolerance, but since i 'quit' a couple of years ago, i've become a "lightweight" again, which i think is fantastic. i go through periods of earning very little money, so it is good for me to get by as cheaply as i can sometimes. i think it is one of the magical things about cannabis that you can self-regulate tolerance so easily (if you set your mind to it). i don't think the same thing can be said for drugs like opiates or benzos or alcohol. i could be wrong though...
but yes, it's always nice to have a back-up. i don't care if i don't have much weed, but there are some times that you just need a cone!
 
Spacejunk its not for the tobacco smoke, I am just a disturbed sleeper. I am like the least dependant on tobacco person I have ever known who is technically dependant on it. There are many days I wont even smoke a cigarette and often I will only have 20-30% tobacco in my weed. Sometimes I notice in the afternoon if I haven't smoked any weed or a cigi I can be a bit aggro but waking up at 4 or 5am for a mix has nothing to do with baccy.

It is a habit I have had on and off throughout various periods of heavy cannabis usage, I tend to associate it with the THC being eliminated from my system and my body needing THC to stay asleep. It could also be the alcohol I drink at night wearing off... Who really knows. I have always been a disturbed sleeper but times I am not smoking so heavily I have often managed to smoke before bed and sleep through till morning. I have to say this isn't uncommon amongst most friends I have that smoke cannabis at a similar level as me, so it probably is mostly just tolerance to the weed.

On another note, whats with the total lack of joint appreciation amongst the majority of Aussie stoners? Fuck not even just joint appreciation but pretty much anything other than sitting around sucking down cones all day. When you compare it to North American smoking culture where theres different sub sets of stoner groups who have their preferred ROA's, as well as just the generally much greater variety of commonly available paraphernillia it shows how one track minded the average Aussie stoner is. Maybe it is just the circles I roll in but the last 8 or 9 months I have really got into switching up my ROA's I get funny looks and smart comments from my mates every time I go to roll a spliff rather than throw a bud into the mix.
 
I use to smoke trumpets back when i was off bongs, got you high as f**k. Used alot of bud but was definitely worth it! Ahh i guess the drought continues all this talk of bud/smoking methods etc is making me want to get baked lol!
 
yeah, that sounds more like alcoholic sleep-interruption than anything else, to me anyway.
having said that, i've never drunk alcohol with enough regularity to know how much it affects sleep patterns long term, but i used to always wake up halfway through the night when i drank booze. a big part of the reason why i stopped, because i'm a terrible sleeper to begin with.
i guess i was just curious because i saw a nick cave interview once (with roy & h.g - hilarious!) and he claimed that he would wake up in the middle of the night to smoke a cigarette. i was pretty sure he was being facetious, but you can't be too sure sometimes, hehe.

yeah, there is a perception in australia that joints are wasteful. i disagree - i think they're social and they get you very high!
i love a good reefer. a well-oiled joint circle is a wonderful thing - and by that i mean a bunch of people that understand the group-smoking etiquette of "puff-puff-pass", or whatever.
cigarette smokers always seem to bogart the damn thing, holding the joint and talking while everyone sits there and looks at the joint. i'm not shy about calling people up on it...especially if it's my weed!
 
Fieldy by trumpets do you mean an 'L plate' style spliff with the two papers stuck together in a sort of L formation? I have never rolled one of these but have been meaning to attempt it because I love the taste of tally-ho's, they are just too damn small to get stoned off a single paper weed unless you are talking some real nice weed and a VERY tightly packed joint. If that is what you are referring to do you have any advice on sticking the papers together? I was actually going to attempt one last night but the papers didn't stick together very well, it worked OK along the glue line but the rest didn't really stick together well at all, I have tried this once or twice in the past as well and it didn't work then either.

I tend to roll using Zig Zag Slim Blues, they are made from hemp and flax and I find them a good paper to roll with. They are reasonably thin and they don't have too strong of a paper taste (although they don't taste as good as rice paper!), they burn well and I find them to be pretty much the perfect size for rolling anything from a longish, skinny .5er anything up to a gram or so. What do other spliff smokers out there tend to roll with?

Spacejunk I do agree that alcohol probably plays a role, but I did also have the same problems years ago when I rarely drank alcohol but smoked cannabis regularly, and numerous bong smoking friends who aren't alcoholics experience the same thing too... I think the cannabis definately contributes as well.

I think joints get you high as hell also, and the high lasts longer and once it comes down I am a lot less likely to feel like I have to get stoned again immediately. They aren't as economical as using a billy but by the time I get to the end of a well rolled, decent sized spliff I generally feel better than I will after chowing down a few cones. One big thing for me is a lot of the time these days is I can't smoke big party sized cones in one hit like I used to and I can't always be fucked smoking like 8-12 bongs to get extremely stoned, however once I light up a fat joint I tend to finish it so in that sense even though I am using more weed I definately get more stoned off joints. That said, if I have been smoking bongs all day, it does take a pretty fat joint to get me that high...
 
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Fieldy by trumpets do you mean an 'L plate' style spliff with the two papers stuck together in a sort of L formation? I have never rolled one of these but have been meaning to attempt it because I love the taste of tally-ho's, they are just too damn small to get stoned off a single paper weed unless you are talking some real nice weed and a VERY tightly packed joint. If that is what you are referring to do you have any advice on sticking the papers together? I was actually going to attempt one last night but the papers didn't stick together very well, it worked OK along the glue line but the rest didn't really stick together well at all, I have tried this once or twice in the past as well and it didn't work then either.

I tend to roll using Zig Zag Slim Blues, they are made from hemp and flax and I find them a good paper to roll with. They are reasonably thin and they don't have too strong of a paper taste (although they don't taste as good as rice paper!), they burn well and I find them to be pretty much the perfect size for rolling anything from a longish, skinny .5er anything up to a gram or so. What do other spliff smokers out there tend to roll with?

Spacejunk I do agree that alcohol probably plays a role, but I did also have the same problems years ago when I rarely drank alcohol but smoked cannabis regularly, and numerous bong smoking friends who aren't alcoholics experience the same thing too... I think the cannabis definately contributes as well.

I think joints get you high as hell also, and the high lasts longer and once it comes down I am a lot less likely to feel like I have to get stoned again immediately. They aren't as economical as using a billy but by the time I get to the end of a well rolled, decent sized spliff I generally feel better than I will after chowing down a few cones. One big thing for me is a lot of the time these days is I can't smoke big party sized cones in one hit like I used to and I can't always be fucked smoking like 8-12 bongs to get extremely stoned, however once I light up a fat joint I tend to finish it so in that sense even though I am using more weed I definately get more stoned off joints. That said, if I have been smoking bongs all day, it does take a pretty fat joint to get me that high...
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Yes that is what i am talking about, i tent to just use tally-ho's when my girl rolls them, they tend to last a good 5-10 minutes and do the trick solid which makes passing out easy when it wears off! Use a straw to roll them over if your not good with 2 papers long and get a pencil to pack them nice and tight before you roll them off an twist the ends. Either way they are quite boss and work well, usually when im about 3/4 through my hearing will get so loud and them boom b4 u know it your at the end and your rather nicely toasted! Usually a nice big lick does the trick if not your papers are too dry i find if it doesnt stick, dont be concerned if you cant get it the first time it takes a bit of practice.
 
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^ I don't hate on cheat rollers but personally I will only roll a spliff by hand. For me its kind of an art form as well as being a part of the ritual for me, aside from that I think its just good practise to roll by hand as it means you are constantly improving. Unfortunately I didn't get to click your link before you removed it...

The problem I have isn't with rolling it, I haven't actually got to attempting the actual roll but I am confident after a few tries I could definately pull something decent off. Its more a question of getting the papers to stick together effectively that I have struggled with the couple times I was going to attempt it. The glue strip sticks fine but I find apart from that the two papers dont stick together very well at all. Do you tear an extra glue strip or two off another tally ho and use this to aid in sticking them?

I am also curious if anyone has smoked on a tulip? I never have myself but am very keen to give it a go, I think the next time I have a large quantity of good weed on hand I might attempt an L plate with a tulip on the end.
 
^ i was suggesting a straw if you cant roll by hand for an example to get a good cylinder shape actually haha!!! Nope i don't tear em at all, i find the little L shape at the end of the paper where its been cut and use that as the guide line where to stick the papers together. I still can't do them but my gf is pro at them!!! It may take 2-4 times depending on how your skills are. I will happily post a tutorial with pictures once i can track down and acquire some green as its been awhile lol. Either way try find a friend of two who has rolled them before to teach you as its much easier to do ses my gf after watching someone roll it/explain it to you in person. Good luck either way :) I removed the link because the video was with a king size papers :( hard to find the right video on youtube sorry!
 
^ No need to apologise dude. I am confident enough in both my rolling abilities and desire to get stoned that if I were ever in a situation I needed to make an L plate work I would succeed. At the moment I am just used to rolling with king sized papers but I want to expand my rolling skills (particularly since I plan to travel in the near future) so if I am stuck without large papers I can still get a nice spliff happening.

I understand pretty well how to actually roll an L plate, its just the few times I tried to stick the papers together aside from where the glue is the papers didn't seem to stick particularly well. I suppose I probably should of tried rolling it up like that and seeing how I went but with a handful of king sized zig zag packets on hand it hardly seemed worth the effort I guess.

I have pretty much taught myself to roll because all my mates tend to smoke exclusively bongs, I have a couple mates who appreciate skinning up as much as myself but neither can roll as good as me nor roll an L plate...

Out of curiosity do any joint smokers out there hit blunts from time to time? I got told wraps were being outlawed due to flavoured tobacco laws so bought up a few, they use up a bit of choof and as someone who has smoked predominantly mix for 7 or 8 years its harsh as fuck but they light me up good. It is a bit cliche but I do love smoking a fat blunt of some nice weed and pumping old school rap.
 
Although I smoke mostly bongs I have experimented a fair bit with joints. I have always found the high slightly different to bongs, even with the same bud, seems more up-lifting. I wish I could remember more how my mate rolled them. 2 tally-ho's long was the best size, can't remember if it was 2 high aswell, maybe just the end one. Bigger ones are cool and all but don't drag anywhere near aswell and much harder to roll properly.
 
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I'm curious about how many Aussie growers are sowing 'exotic' indoor seed/cuttings outdoors. Indoors varieties grown under carefully controlled conditions are a predictable commodity but in my experience they can behave radically differently outside under the Aussie sun. For instance, Hawaiian indica rocketed up to nearly 3 meters (sativa trait) with heads like coke bottles (indica). Took 8 months to get there though. White widow just stretched out and grew into an airy big ball with a mass of small dense buds 7 months later. Didn't have any success with White rhino - 2 out of 3 looked good early on then turned male. Every season is just a bit more interesting with a wildcard in amongst the bushpigs.
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I guess most peeps would start them indoors and after about a month when pre flowers show they would moove them outdoors into a nice settled plot with lots of cow sh!t. Even from the best breeders in the world your gona get a lot of variation with the plants. Prolly 3 phenos from a batch of beans so unless your starting from clones its lucky dip.

I recon outdoor is way better. As long as the girls have all the essential nutrients avail to them they will draw what they need to flourish at will. Ya know the girls get the full light spectrum outdoors while with indoor lights they miss out on a lot like UVB etc.
 
Growing ganja outdoors and getting safely through to harvest is one fix I crave every year. Regular outdoors growers will acknowledge the list of challenges we face to be a long one and for better than half the year our plants are seldom far from our thoughts. I don't say indoors growers have an easier time during their short but intense grow cycles, more that the problems and risks are invariably greater when cultivating your plants outdoors. I guess that's why I look forward so much to sealing the last buds into their jars and finally breathing out. Still a long way to go with this season but things are looking good so far. Stay safe.
 
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