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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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I've been totally out of phenazepam for at least 72 hours, and even with a 60 hour half life I think I should be feeling withdrawals...I'm happy I didn't get seriously addicted but with a little more time I definitely would be...

I don't know, though, I've gone up to 4mg clonazepam a day from 2mg when I was using phenazepam in the 3-4mg range. That may be what's saving me.

Alas, my phenazepam should finally arrive tomorrow. This time I'll try to stay off it as much as possible...and save it only for occasions with severe anxiety or coming down from stimulants.
 
I am interested in potency from different suppliers, one has me licking the bag then having my Mum send the police to my house 2 days later because she couldn't get through to me on the phone. The other I have been topping up all day "just to see" but only spacing out a bit and losing balance. I'd probably fall asleep if I laid down but staying up and doing stuff is no problem at all. I spent this evening sawing wood!
 
Have you tried measuring your doses? I think that would really help you judge it more objectively, not to mention make dosing safe, period. It's a must.
 
Of course, it was only the first one that I licked the bag. This one is 50mg dissolved into 100ml PG. I have got up to 3mg with still decent function.
 
DexterMeth said:
I need to stock up on this stuff before a bunch of wreckless kids ruin it for us.
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Ditto. Say, if someone were using this stuff 2-3x a week just to take the edge off some pesky anxiety, or the odd comedown, how much do you think a year's supply would be? Assume no tolerance. Also any notion on the shelf-life; i.e. how far into the future can you expect this stuff to last? If it's only good a few years, probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to throw down on a decade's worth. I'm abroad right now, phenaz is on the books here, and wanna get stocked back home just in case this loophole gets tied up before I return and can answer these questions myself.
 
weevil said:
I am interested in potency from different suppliers, one has me licking the bag then having my Mum send the police to my house 2 days later because she couldn't get through to me on the phone. The other I have been topping up all day "just to see" but only spacing out a bit and losing balance. I'd probably fall asleep if I laid down but staying up and doing stuff is no problem at all. I spent this evening sawing wood!
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The potency is certainly slightly off from a few vendors. It really sucks, because I'd like to know exactly how many mg I am taking, instead of finding the "sweet spot" which seems to be around 3mg for me for this most recent batch. I tried some of someone's once when I was at this same 3mg of whatever potency and 3mg was like 2/3 as strong as the effects my 3mg gave me. I plan on eventually sampling the product (or someone else's) from at least three vendors so I should be able to tell more about whether cutting is common or if there is actually pure phenazepam...
 
if you guys are referring to me as "a young kid who's gonna ruin it for us" how did i intentionally try to hurt our ability to get the drug? i had it in my medicine case and they went through it and counted out every pill i had and found the bag of pure phenaz.. i didn't mean to make it that we cant get it anymore.. i got a bullshit DUI because i was on my bi polar medications (which through law i have to take). im done with this shit.. i don't want to be blamed if it turns illegal.. im sure im not the only person caught with it..
 
Don't worry so much about it; I don't think anyone's talking about you specifically. It's just a reminder that we should all be extra careful. If it ever does get scheduled, it'll be because of some parents crying over their son's fatal overdose, not a bullshit DUI.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
if you guys are referring to me as "a young kid who's gonna ruin it for us" how did i intentionally try to hurt our ability to get the drug? i had it in my medicine case and they went through it and counted out every pill i had and found the bag of pure phenaz.. i didn't mean to make it that we cant get it anymore.. i got a bullshit DUI because i was on my bi polar medications (which through law i have to take). im done with this shit.. i don't want to be blamed if it turns illegal.. im sure im not the only person caught with it..
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noone said you intentionally did anything
 
Jonesey: NO SOURCES...I'd edit that before a mod does. Obviously you're new here, but that rule is kept very strictly. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't just sign up to promote your own site.

Also...It arrived! 2 full grams, in nice little professional looking vials. As soon as I finish this paper, I'm making a vial and testing it out.
 
MescalitoBandito said:
I've been totally out of phenazepam for at least 72 hours, and even with a 60 hour half life I think I should be feeling withdrawals...I'm happy I didn't get seriously addicted but with a little more time I definitely would be...

I don't know, though, I've gone up to 4mg clonazepam a day from 2mg when I was using phenazepam in the 3-4mg range. That may be what's saving me.

Alas, my phenazepam should finally arrive tomorrow. This time I'll try to stay off it as much as possible...and save it only for occasions with severe anxiety or coming down from stimulants.
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Can you please tell me a little more about your dosing, if you don't mind? Like how often you dosed (intra-day and intra-week/month) and how much at a time, etc... I would appreciate it!

Benzo withdrawals are strange in that they don't generally kick in right away full force. That's why once you stop taking your daily dose, even at fairly low doses, or do a huge drop at once, your body still has a certain amount of benzo in it that gradually goes away, at which point in time your body generally starts to have the real issues. I believe that for most people, most of this can be eliminated though, just by the simple step. Instead of going from dosing daily to gradually lower and lower doses and then stopping cold turkey off the smallest dose, take that lowest dose and start taking it every 2/3 days, then 1/2 days, then 1/3 days, and by this point of having three days in between doses, you will have withdrawn for the most part while having never had a hard line to stop your small dose on. Your body never gets the chance to have that shocking feeling four or so days later after being on the benzo treatment since it is stretched out much, much further than stopping on a hard line would allow (stopping on a hard line means going from daily dosing to no dosing immediately, as I am using it...)
 
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I was dosing 3-4mg before work, once a day, along with my twice-daily 1mg clonazepam. Sometimes I would indulge and have a few more mg before bed.

EDIT: Can someone please explain how to get these damn vials open? I feel like it's gonna explode in my face.
 
MescalitoBandito said:
I was dosing 3-4mg before work, once a day, along with my twice-daily 1mg clonazepam. Sometimes I would indulge and have a few more mg before bed.

EDIT: Can someone please explain how to get these damn vials open? I feel like it's gonna explode in my face.
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HAHA. I had the same problem with the vials. You have to peel the silver metal ring off of the vial and then you can easily pull out the rubber stopper. The metal ring is quite thin and you can tear it by gripping it with scissors or pliers or something similar.

BTW- sounds like you are dosing a decent sized dose of benzos daily. I wouldn't be doing my job here if I didnt advise you to be careful because you are going down the path of benzo addiction.-DG
 
Yeah, I know...I'm trying to avoid using phenazepam heavily this time around, but my rx'd clonazepam only does so much to prevent my anxiety. I've only recently gotten myself to the point where I'm no longer vomiting daily.

I've been there before, so at least I know what I'm getting myself into...phenaz definitely cannot be a daily thing for me anymore, though....I say that now :/

Oh, and I got it open, just ended up stabbing myself in the finger doing so haha.
 
DG, how much do you dose at a time, out of curiosity? If you don't want to answer, that's fine...
 
BollWeevil said:
DG, how much do you dose at a time, out of curiosity? If you don't want to answer, that's fine...
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Im a bit embarrassed to say that I have yet to try phenazepam (embarrassed because I have commented several times in this thread and have yet to try the drug in question).
I have had a vial of the stuff sitting around for about a month now but have yet to take it. I get a script for alprazolam so I haven't really felt the need to take any of the phenaz yet (though Im sure Ill get around to it).

I only take between .5-1mg per day of alprazolam and I split it up into 3 doses. I basically take .25mg 3X per day. I find that at these small doses it gives me what I want out of it (takes care of any minor anxiety I have, and slightly potentiates my daily bupe dose).

When I do decide to try the phenaz I imagine I will start with about 1-2mg. Am I correct that it seems to be about half the strength of alpraz?-DG
 
Yeah I asked because I usually would take 1mg of alprazolam for good effects and I'm trying to get a good comparison going to what I am taking the equivalent of in say diazepam. It's hard not knowing the exact equivalencies of the drugs...
 
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