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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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Why'd you start at 4mg? Did you buy from a vendor that you know cuts the product? 4mg is a large dose if it is even mostly pure...
 
Tried doses last week with 1mg and 2mg with somewhat and affect.


HdoubleODeezy said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines

^^ shows that 1mg phen = .5mg clonaz/alpraz
so it seems right that about 10mg phen equals 5mg clonaz for me..

so the 2:1 comparison could be right (if that's what you're talking about)
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acording to that. 1mg phrn = .5mg alpraz.

So with my meaussurent it should be about 4mg phen (approximately 2mg alpraz) i have ingested, which is a desect dose, but nothing out of thr ordinary. I think i'm gonna be fine.
 
Yeah, 2mg alprazolam is a bit higher than I'd recommend someone to start at. If you're comfortable with it though, obviously you know your body best! Good luck!
 
i said fuck it with my afternoon dose of k pin and decided to see if i could still get high on phenazepam (i know i can on kpins) so i get out about 20mg (double my usual dose) i eyeballed it, but im used to doing it so it was somewhere around there. and decided to snort it instead of sublingualing it.. i know that snorting benzos yields a 10%-20% loss of overall BA but felt like snorting something.. that was 2 hours ago and im still wrecked =D (well sorta) ( so there is some proof that you can snort benzos (pure powder form anyway), you may lose a little product but it did work.)

i already know 10mg will hold me since it equals my k pin dose.
but tomorrow i will try to snort it and see if there is a difference. %)
 
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does this take a long time to kick in? its been like an hour or two

i got a SECOND shipment, if both turn out to be bunk i won't be able to get a shipment in time to help me withdrawal :(

ftr i don't feel klonopin as i take a small amount everyday. but incomplete cross tolerance should compensate yea? maybe weed will kick it in..
 
^You should feel something, but I wouldn't expect complete relief because of the incomplete cross-tolerance you mentioned. But, no, I wouldn't say it takes particularly long to kick in...
 
^You could be, but if you don't feel anything, I don't see any reason not to take it a bit higher. Phenazepam is a pretty intoxicating benzo and you should certainly feel it, especially compared with clonazepam.

If HdoubleODeezy gets back on, maybe he can give you a little bit more info on going from clonazepam to phenazepam because I never actually used the drugs at the same time. From conversation with him, I think you should definitely should feel the intoxicating effects, though. If it has just eased w/d then that's always good, but maybe try a slightly higher dose next time...?
 
sometimes with this stuff i can take tons and not feel a thing.. but next time take a quarter of what i took the last time and im completely fucked up.. but i dont understand what you're saying about the clonazepam and cross tolerance? i take k pins and phenaz and feel both ( with high enough amounts) but im prescribed a high amount so it's all good..

btw: benzo'd out right now, sorry if i make no sense. :\

we all know how that can be
 
BollWeevil said:
^You could be, but if you don't feel anything, I don't see any reason not to take it a bit higher. Phenazepam is a pretty intoxicating benzo and you should certainly feel it, especially compared with clonazepam.

If HdoubleODeezy gets back on, maybe he can give you a little bit more info on going from clonazepam to phenazepam because I never actually used the drugs at the same time. From conversation with him, I think you should definitely should feel the intoxicating effects, though. If it has just eased w/d then that's always good, but maybe try a slightly higher dose next time...?
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i dont know what advice to give other than IME it takes double phenazepam of what i would need clonazepam, so i take 5mg klonopin and if i decide to take phenazepam instead i would take 10mg, so for ME 1mg phenaz = .5mg clonaz..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines

^ that says it also.. wish i had more info, try dosing more.. what can it hurt? you're used to benzo's so it's not like you will freak out and do something really bad.. worst i see happening is you waking up in the morning and saying what happened last night..
good luck and BE SAFE,

~I am not to be blamed for any harm that comes from advice in this message, reader will do at own will - HdoubleOdeezy
 
But QWE.. it does take a while to kick in a lot of times. it can take anywhere from a half hour to 4 hours.. so just watch your dosing.
 
i took a nice pile of powder. not really able to tell anyway, too many different depressants and cannabis in me. this opiate w/d body feeling really sucks so i suck down a lot of clonidines/somas/hopefully lorazepam
 
^I thought you were w/d-ing from benzos, not opiates... I would have recommended kratom to you in that case. Benzos help me when I'm in opiate w/d a little, but also make me irritable as shit.
 
with all this testosterone during opie wd i feel more stimulated and exhilarated than irritated... lol

i just want my body to feel normal and comfy, and my sleep architecture to recover from too long using opies
 
^ always assume that it is the potent stuff and dose low accordingly.. you can always take more but you cant take less. and if it is 99% and you have no benzo tolerance .5-1mg will/should do you good, 2mg at the most over the course of the high.

its kinda hard to tell when it's cut one thing you can do is sprinkle a little in a glass of water (its non water soluble so should stay as flakes even when mixing, it shouldn't blend with the water at all).. but that can only tell us if it's cut with watersoluble or non water soluble cut (if its cut at all) im still working on a way to figure out how to find out non water soluble cuts, with propylene glycol say you add 50mg to 50ml to make 1mg/ml and you shake it and let it sit for a while and it is all done combining. sometimes there's little flakes left, and that could be non water AND propylene glycol soluble cut. but might as well just take it easy when you get it, start low, work up
be safe :)
 
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hopefully i'll get to try this. i placed an order for some today..order/billing/shipping info showed up but i haven't been billed yet, chose next-day delivery, called the vendor but no answer or voicemail, then emailed them.. nothing

hopefully hear something tomorrow. i'm really not in the mood to get ripped off :|
 
^(suburbantoker) Just titrate your dose. Start with 1mg... Even if it's 50% cut, you may be able to still judge how strong it is and dose accordingly. If you don't feel it after an hour, take another mg. By the time this kicks in, you should know how strong it is and can dose accordingly.
 
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