The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

[bubbly nubs]

Thanks for the replies. I have read what he has written about it anyway so no worries.

 

[Whatsamatau]

JWH-018 Burnt-out

I was a real fan of this stuff, but all of the sudden after smoking five grams in about 4 months as a pot substitute, it just dosen't do it. I used to be afraid of accidentally doing a miligram or 2 above my usual dose but after a couple weekends of really hitting it hard, in the middle of this batch, it just takes so much to get a real buzz. Tolerance is really an amazing thing. I mean this shit used to scare me. I think the buzz is just too one dimentional. I was actually just smoking it to nod out like an opiate toward the end of the run.

I guess i'm done with this experiment. Back to nature.:D

 

[Solipsis]

I guess.... thanks for the heads up

Sounds interesting, synthetic cannabinoids but I never really got around to it since there
are so many wonderful harder psychedelics and I can make THC oil.

Maybe you'd better just give it a rest then!

 

[theotherside]

My main problem with jwh-018 is that I will feel amazing and think I need one more hit. When I'm high I put too much in the pipe, and then all hell breaks loose. If you smoke upwards of 8-10 mg in under an hour, the pot like high turns into an almost salvia-like experience. Have you tried switching between 018 and 073? By doing this I find I can keep my tolerance down to each one.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Try combing -018 and -073 together or if you want to be adventurous, make yourself a CP 47,497 guinea pig :D

 

[Coolio]

I was a real fan of this stuff, but all of the sudden after smoking five grams in about 4 months as a pot substitute, it just dosen't do it. I used to be afraid of accidentally doing a miligram or 2 above my usual dose but after a couple weekends of really hitting it hard, in the middle of this batch, it just takes so much to get a real buzz. Tolerance is really an amazing thing. I mean this shit used to scare me. I think the buzz is just too one dimentional. I was actually just smoking it to nod out like an opiate toward the end of the run.

I guess i'm done with this experiment. Back to nature.:D

I did the same thing at one point... exact same. "I was actually just smoking it to nod out like an opiate toward the end of the run."

 

[HouseFever]

Try combing -018 and -073 together or if you want to be adventurous, make yourself a CP 47,497 guinea pig :D

have you tried that stuff.

 

[theotherside]

I would put jwh-073 ahead of the best quality dro/headies for the sole fact that I do not get sleepy after I come down from the high.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

have you tried that stuff.

yes.

 

[Coolio]

yes.

I think he was implying he wanted a description of the effects, duration, dose, etc...

 

[bpayne]

I smoke some good buds and drink some busch ice and I'm good to go maybe throw a couple of tramadolians in the mix and the day is grand

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^ ???

that JWH stuff is basically just glue. Its not healthy to smoke or ingest in any way. It gums up your system.

8)

I think he was implying he wanted a description of the effects, duration, dose, etc...

If he's referring to CP 47,497 then no I have no experience with it, at least in its pure form.

As far as combining -18 and -073 goes, it reminds me of smoking two different Cannabis strains in the same blunt or bowl. Like having a high quality Sativa and Indica, then packing both into the same bowl or rolling up a blunt with .5 grams of each. That's about the best description I can give... it's like smoking weed but it lasts longer.

 

[Delta-9-THC]

^
What he is referring to is the potential for JWH chemicals to be metabolized to epoxides which can be toxic. No definitive proof of this though and just speculation I believe. There is a long thread in ADD discussing this. It is definitely a stretch to say that it is "just like smoking glue" though. Even still, I never really experimented with them too much because of the potential cancer risk.

all of it is less then good compared to yummy headies

ymmv but I've really never met anybody that likes them better than good headies

Agreed. Definitely inferior to good weed IME. I tried them a few times and found them to be effective but very shallow. Not to mention that good headies taste amazing while this tastes like plastic.

JWH-018 is probably the only one I would consider smoking again because it is the slightly more psychedelic and energizing of the two. This is only because sativa strains are pretty rare in my area and sometimes I prefer a less sedating high.

Actually, combining the two of them might be worth a try just to see if they are any more interesting together. Maybe the relaxation of 073 will balance out 018s anxiogenic potential.

 

[theotherside]

^^ I can vouch for combining 018 and 073. It creates a well rounded head and body high that feels both psychedelic and energetic.

 

[Cookie1456]

that JWH stuff is basically just glue. Its not healthy to smoke or ingest in any way. It gums up your system.

What the? Do you have citations for that?

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^First off, you're not supposed to smoke it. It's meant to be vaporized or consumed orally.

Those things oozing out your pores are called whiteheads, get some Neutrogena face wash...

 

[Full Effect]

No-one knows what the health implications are of JWH-018 that coupled with the fact it's a pretty shit high should be enough to put most people off, plus the fact it is not worth the money. Only use I can see is if your drug tested and need something to substitute cannabis, even then it is probably a bit silly to use it long term.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

coupled with the fact it's a pretty shit high... plus the fact it is not worth the money.

My assumption would be you've never actually tried it before, coupled with the fact that you actually never purchased it before either. Since a mere $*snip* investment, provides you with a gram of -073 and about a 100 uses, over the common dose vaporized.



The high is very similar to Cannabis, and it's much cheaper...

 

[Full Effect]

My assumption would be you've never actually tried it before, coupled with the fact that you actually never purchased it before either. Since, a mere $*snip* investment, provides you with a gram of -073 and over 100 uses at over the common dose vaporized.



The high is very similar to Cannabis, and it's much cheaper.

I've smoked JWH and all the blends that use it ? All opinions *snip* so bear that in mind..

Again just opinion rather than fact but that is my view..

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

^In retrospect to Cannabis street prices, even if you're getting a good "deal" it's still cheaper in the long run. Growing your own Cannabis is an entirely different story.

Your first comment is obviously an opinion, just goes against the grain of what most people say about the substance(s). Which is what made my assumption on your lack of experience with the product (unless you got ripped off on both price and quality [purity])