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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Storage Thread

Quick question. What is the optimal medium for a liquid suspension of
4-HO-DiPT, Everclear or do I need to dilute it with distilled H2O? Also should i keep it in my freezer or would it be ok on a shelf? I know phens don't break down too fast in ethanol suspensions, but would this particular tryp be fine in it? I'm looking to get it down to 20mg/ml with the starting weight at a half a gram, so how much Everclear to Iprocin do I need?
 
I store my lsd in those little black film canisters. Dark and air tight, they work greatly.
 
It seems like I remember reading in a thread somewhere that either the 5-MeO or the 4-HO tryptamines are unstable in suspension? Since some of the posts here seem to indicate that 5-MeOs should be stable, it may have been the 4-HO series. I've had 4-HOs stored as powder in air tight glass vials (clear, not amber) for months and haven't noticed any changes in color or loss of potency.

YMMV.
 
Obyron said:
It seems like I remember reading in a thread somewhere that either the 5-MeO or the 4-HO tryptamines are unstable in suspension? Since some of the posts here seem to indicate that 5-MeOs should be stable, it may have been the 4-HO series. I've had 4-HOs stored as powder in air tight glass vials (clear, not amber) for months and haven't noticed any changes in color or loss of potency.

YMMV.
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i just wanted it in a suspension cuz my friend broke my scale. i can accuratly measure a half a gram without fear and then go with a suspension to dose, but if it's unstable then i guess i'll have to wait untill i can get a new scale. :X
 
BoyBuldge said:
I store my lsd in those little black film canisters. Dark and air tight, they work greatly.
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Am I right in thinking that although such cannisters may be almost airtight, there will probably be more than enough air already inside the cannister prior to capping to oxidise the LSD. Unless of course you displace the air with an inert gas first? There is such a small amount of LSD in the first place that I would have thought this would be the case.

Someone please tell me it's not though ;), as I may have a vested interest in this at some future date =D

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samadhi_smiles said:
I think its pretty stabile at room temp, but it wouldn't hurt as long as your storage container is airtight.
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cheers, even better ;)
 
transfer tips, and plastic questions

ok this is related when you all aquire chems they are often in plastic packages, when i open up the packages the powders are all stuck to the inside of the plastic then it sticks to my fingers, when i use tweezers it sticks to those. any tricks for transfering powder from one container to another with minimal loss of product?

also are pharms like diazepam (powder) going to be significantly more stable than tryptamines? and does plastic pose any risk? it says on wikipedia

"Diazepam can absorb into plastic, and therefore diazepam solution is not stored in plastic bottles or syringes. It can absorb into plastic bags and tubing used for intervenous infusions. Absorption appears to be dependent on several factors such as temperature, concentration, flow rates and tube length."

soo...diazepam can absorb into plastic, but not vice versa, so im not tainting the valium, im just looseing some?
 
hurricane, you can try scraping off the plastic baggie with a razor blade; use the razor blade to slit down the seams so you can unfold it and it all lies flat, then scrape it off the baggie? I haven't tried this with 2c's, but it works well with DMT.
 
hamhurricane said:
"Diazepam can absorb into plastic, and therefore diazepam solution is not stored in plastic bottles or syringes. It can absorb into plastic bags and tubing used for intervenous infusions. Absorption appears to be dependent on several factors such as temperature, concentration, flow rates and tube length."

soo...diazepam can absorb into plastic, but not vice versa, so im not tainting the valium, im just looseing some?
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There's no good reason to store chems in anything besides glass. You should be carrying around large quantities in the first place, so the fact that glass is slightly fragile is moot. Buy some amber vials through ebay or in a perfume supply shop and use those. No worries about gas exchange or absorption into plastic...
 
Questions About LSD Sugar Cube Storage

So say I was receiving ~20 hits of good liquid LSD. The dealer would put one big drop on each sugar cube, we would let the sugar cubes dry for about 1 hour, and then they would be done, right? Should I wrap each sugar cube in foil, or will the LSD liquid condense onto the foil? Should we not put more than 1 drop onto each cube? Will it melt the sugar cube if I put more than 1 drop?

I'm thinking I should put the cubes, not each wrapped in foil, in an airtight glass bottle. Then I would store this bottle (the bottle will be wrapped in foil and completely airtight) in my freezer.

Would this be the best way to store the cubes with minimal degradation of the compound? Would this way be the best? (Putting each cube (Probably 20), already dried, not wrapped in foil, into the glass bottle, then closing the glass bottle, wrapping THAT in foil, and putting it in the freezer)

SHOULD I wrap EACH sugar cube in foil once they dry? Or will it condense/screw it up? Please someone reply ASAP, I need very quick responses as this is quite urgent.
 
Just bring your own vial and have him drop the 20 hits into the vial. Store in freezer or really at room temp its probably all good for a year or so that way.
 
They're already in sugar cubes. I have 10 cubes with 1 hit in them each and 5 cubes with 2 hits in them each. I waited for them to dry and then wrapped all ten "1 hit" cubes in foil to stop light from getting in, and I wrapped the 5 "2 hit" cubes in foil too.

EACH CUBE is NOT wrapped separately. Basically the 10 cubes are all wrapped good in one piece of foil, and the 5 cubes are also wrapped in one good piece. They are now in an airtight jar in my freezer.

Should I wrap the whole jar in foil just to be safe?

Is this the best way to store them?
Do I NEED a dessicant?
 
Better than foil is a completely airtight container. Glass is great, but something that isn't a semipermeable liquid is even better.
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Someone said this in a closed thread. What does "but something that isn't a semipermeable liquid is even better" mean? I thought glass vials were the best way?
 
re. acid storage

I remember reading a thread a long time ago at the hive where it was suggested to store lsd on ascorbic acid. I am not a chemist but the reason behind it was that the ascorbic acid would prevent/slow down oxidation of the acid to some degree.

So if someone was planning to store acid that is in solution, it sounds like a good idea to drop them on dissolvable ascorbic acid tablets instead of sugar cubes.
 
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