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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Storage Thread

It's just for storing LSD. Normally I just have the blotter or vial in clingfilm or foil, in tightly sealed baggies, with all the air pushed out. Then usually put that inside something opaque, put in a sealed Tupperware box, then keep in the fridge

With these I would just put them in a few tightly sealed baggies, and then put in these containers. You can pump all the air out of them so they are vacuum sealed. I assume this would be a fairly good way to store acid?

Never noticed any degradation doing it the original way, not always even kept em in the fridge, but for long term storage maybe this would be safer
 
Storing your chems

Excuse me if there's a thread on this - I couldn't find it.

I understand that it's a good idea to put your LSD in a freezer, but what about other stuff?

Namely:
5-APB,
6-APB,
5-meo-DALT,
AM2201,
MXE,
Methylone,
AMT,
etizolam,
salvia,
ethylphenidate,
IAP,

Does anyone know which of these - if any - is best put in the freezer?

thank you so much!
 
If it's long term storage you're looking after:

Tryptamines belong in the freezer, especially aMT. I also keep my 5MeO-DALT in the freezer.
I keep my MXE in the fridge. Salvia too.

Can't help you with the rest.
 
Thank you sir. I figured as much. Right now I have everything in the freezer, but concerned that some of it should be.

Anyone know any better?
 
I keep blotter and liquid in the freezer, never noticed any condensation? it is wrapped up so many sealed baggies, cling film and sealed boxes
 
The optimum conditions for storage of chemicals is cold, dry, dark and oxygen-free.

The more of these criteria you can meet, the better. I recommend a sealed container inside a freezer. Stored in this way, drugs will outlive you.

Worth noting though, if you remove drugs from the container while still cold, they will attract condensation, which is to be avoided. The best way to avoid this is to leave them in the sealed container until they reach room temp.

Honestly though, I would be quite comfortable storing those in a dark, dry place, with the exception of aMT which I would put in the freezer for long term storage (years).

I'm going to merge this with the storage thread which is in our PD index :)
 
Great reply Tranform, thank you.
I think I'll avoid the freezer then, due to condensation concerns upon removal, and just keep them in my deepest, darkest drawer ;)
 
It's not much of an issue if you leave the substance in its container until it reaches room temperature. I keep my aMT in the freezer
 
Ok. I can't say I've noticed any condensation forming when-ever I withdraw my ziplock full of chems - which itself is full of smaller zip-locks full of the separate chems...

Are we talking about microscopic amount of condensation?
 
From the freezer, no. But it doesn't matter if the condensation is only on the outside of the bag. If the bag is sealed then no moisture can get in and it doesn't matter.
 
Cheers! I'll probably just stick to the freezer then, just to be extra safe.
 
2C-X Stable for 2 years really ?

Hi,

Well, my monkey buy some Phenethylamine from a new source and he received a Safety Sheet with the products.

It's says the following text :

Laboratoy Procedures:
For long term storage, we suggest that 2C-D (hydrochlorite) must be stored as supplied at -20°Celsius. It should be stable for at least two years with no noticeable degradations. A stock solution may be made by dissolving the 2C-D (hydrochloride) in the solvent of choice. 2C-D is soluble in organic solvents such as ethanol, DMSO, and dimethyl formamide (DMF), which should be purged with an inert gas. This product is intended for forsenic and research purposes only. Not for human or veterinary use.
Chemical Name : 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methyl-phenethylamine
Purity: >98%
Form : Hydrochlorite
Stability: +/- 2 years at -20°Celsius
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What the heck, should it be okay for 5 to 10 years guys ? I feel pissed off right now :!
I could assume that it will be the same for 2C-E and so on... So much waste then :(
My monkey have some for more than 2 years in amber vials... :|
 
I've stored various PEA's at room temperature for upwards of 10 years without any noticeable degradation. Don't worry, your 2C-x will be fine.
 
2 years seems to be a boilerplate stability figure, probably for warranty purposes and for no other reason, from a certain place that this person probably copied the information from.

It doesn't mean much. It's similar to how expiration date on OTC drugs mean diddly in 90% of the cases (eg, 90% of OTC drugs were still fully potent 15 years *after* the expiration date). I would assume that a lot of pure compounds maintain stability for decades.
 
Phenethylamines tend to be very stable. There shouldn't be any noticeable change in potency after 2 years.
 
This is just to cover the vendor if you leave them in a baggy on a windowsill.

The optimum conditions for storage of chemicals is cold, dry, dark and oxygen-free.

The more of these criteria you can meet, the better. I recommend a sealed container inside a freezer. Stored in this way, drugs will outlive you.

Worth noting though, if you remove drugs from the container while still cold, they will attract condensation, which is to be avoided. The best way to avoid this is to leave them in the sealed container until they reach room temp.


@acousticman420
There are so many variables involved that it is impossible to say. The above advice applies.
 
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