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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Storage Thread

Allow the jar to come to room temperature before opening. This will prevent condensation from forming on your blotters.
 
Ahh that was it thanks.. now i can safely take out my precious dope. Is it only for the blotters or also for the powders?
 
Personally, the way I store things is as follows:

Individual zipper bags they came in, inside the double foil envelopes they came in, inside a high-quality (I.e. not consumer grade) zipper bag. This goes into a large communal (as in all my other substances, packed the same way) high quality zipper bag with dessicant/oxygen absorbant packets, which goes inside another high quality zipper bag, which goes inside another high quality zipper bag, which goes in the freezer. I have found the foil envelopes keep out light perfectly and the zipper bags I use I find to be superior to most (as in all I have tried) consumer airtight containers. I have been storing things like this for ages with no complaints, and I have chems in there from 10 years ago. This works fantastically as far as I'm concerned, but the key is to get high quality industrial-grade airtight zipper bags, not Zip-Loc bags, these are shite.
 
Yes, this is true. However, the bags I bought were advertised as being coated in something to make them gas-tight. It was ages ago that I bought them, but I'll see if I can find specific details regarding them.
 
Hi,

My Aliens friend received some AL-LAD blotters

I put them in a metallic box with some sillica gel, put the box in a freezer. Should it be OK for long term storage ? I won't have my freezer in the upcoming weeks, will it still be OK to store them in a drawer (cold place and still in the metallic box with the sillica gel which the temperature is indeed cooler) ? :S I won't have access to the freeze for a long time so :\

Should it be OKAY then ?
 
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Tell your friend to make sure to use an airtight container if he's putting them in the freezer.

Honestly, for short to medium term storage, I think it's unnecessary for most compounds (with freebase tryptamines being an exception). I've stored LSD at room temperature in a dark, dry place for several years without any apparent loss in potency.
 
We have no idea about the storage characteristics of AL-LAD but it's pretty safe to say it'll be like LSD and therefore if kept cool, dry and in a dark place it should last a few years. It does seem to be less stable in solution though.
 
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WTF is up with all the "my plants" and "my alien" and "my friend" shit in this thread? One of the best parts of BL is how we don't allow SWIMMING.

Also my opinion on amber vials has changed. I now feel that storage in a clean baggie that is then vacuum sealed and stored in a mylar foil bag is better. It allows for the same protection IMO with the benefit of flat storage. Just leave the drugs in a dessicator for a while before you vacuum seal.
 
I would like to store individual doses in the liquid form for future use, that way I don't have to measure 0.1mL every time I wanna trip. Any recommendations on how to do that? It's dissolved on alcohol. I haven't tried gel caps, but I'm pretty sure they'd just dissolve.
 
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What's wrong with a conventional sealed container like a small bottle? Something for medicine would be the right size.
 
Is there anything wrong with using a neoprene stopper with a thick-walled test tube?

Does neoprene have any reactivity itself (long term)?
 
I would have no problem storing a dry powder in such a container but yes, neoprene oxidises over time and is a bit more vulnerable to organic solvents.
 
I'm confused. To use or not to oxygen absorbers? These people seem to claim that regular oxygen absorbers actually increase moisture....

"PharmaKeep® is a special oxygen absorber which can work under extremely dry conditions. Iron based absorbers require a moisture component to absorb oxygen. This moisture component is contained in the sachet and can be detrimental to moisture sensitive ingredients in pharmaceuticals. PharmaKeep® does not have a moisture component and there is no concern of hydroxylation. PharmaKeep® is available in sachet or canisters."

http://www.mgc-a.com/AGELESS/OurProducts.html#PharmaKeep
 
Depends on what the compound is more sensitive to. Generally water is a catalyst for other reactions whereas oxygen is a reactant. I'd probably go for the moisture adsorbent given the choice. Worth bearing in mind though that the moisture for the oxygen absorber is probably very localised.
 
Thanks a lot, Transform. I've chosen to eliminate oxygen absorbers from my box of blotters.

I see people in this thread saying that plastic zip-lock bags breath oxygen and water vapor over time. If this is true, what about regular plastic containers?, like tupperware.

Is it best to only use metal and glass then?

Obviously I have my powders in glass vials, no problem there. I'm more worried about my lysergamides blotters .
 
Diffusion scales with thickness of the plastic. I would have no qualms about permanent storage in tupperware.
 
Gah! I wish i woulda read somea this shit before! I wasted like.... 8 blotters of some really good doses because it got to warm and sweated out!
 
Transform said:
Depends on what the compound is more sensitive to. Generally water is a catalyst for other reactions whereas oxygen is a reactant. I'd probably go for the moisture adsorbent given the choice. Worth bearing in mind though that the moisture for the oxygen absorber is probably very localised.
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Fagott said:
Thanks a lot, Transform. I've chosen to eliminate oxygen absorbers from my box of blotters.... .
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Good general advice, Transform. Oxygen is a reactive molecule. In fact O2 is one of the most ( naturally occurring ) reactive ( O2 containing) species! O2 is after all said to be an "ever inhaustable electron sink" (re the biochemistry respiration pathway - the most important chemical or biological discipline out if them all and in between imo ;) lol). Not taking into account such things as ROS, in fact how common is the occurrence of ROS-like adulterants in a substances? Are there quality control procedures to prevent/remove these (assumingly!) unwanted addictions to a procedure? Would it be fair to assume it would very much be dependent on the synthesis procedure/precursors utilised and (ultimately lab technician) technique. (Amongst other variables I'm sure).

(Of course Im just having a jab at the chemists out there, hehe, no offence to any analytical chemists or what not out there! :)
 
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Transform said:
Depends on what the compound is more sensitive to. Generally water is a catalyst for other reactions whereas oxygen is a reactant. I'd probably go for the moisture adsorbent given the choice..
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Although relatively weak bonds H-bonds can cause substantial changes to your solution. If moisture/water is a problem、throw in a desscessant (one you find new shoe boxes should do) parcel into the same box as your mixture. Depending on the circumstances this maybe enough to dry out the solution.

However it is extremely depends on what rxn you're referring to! H2O is most definitely substrates in many reactions. The product could just as easily be H2O (Im speaking in terms of biochemistry more do)
 
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