☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Solubility & Stability Thread

[Solipsis]

Yes! Rectal admin is fine with a drop of hydrochloric acid but it all depends on the acidity. My bet is that you would burn your ass off with 3 ml in 80 ml water, I don't know if you could try it by putting a bit on your lips since they are quite sensitive but honestly I wouldn't even try that. Just use a base like baking soda (NaHCO3) which should be available at a groceries store and dissolve that in as little water as possible, then add it to the aMT solution to neutralize until it stops bubbling. In the end you will only have polluted the solution with NaCl which is just table salt.
If you neutralize a bit to much again and the freebase falls out, add drops of acid again or dissolve the acid in a bit of water first so you don't go too fast.
Yes your volume of water is getting increasingly larger but you can always leave it to evaporate.

 

[delsymfan]

I see what we're sayin here.. just worrying about comfort.

Yeah I'm just gonna suck 10ml of this solution and throw it in a larger glass anyway so I doubt it will totally ruin the taste and corrode my mouth.

And yeah wasnt plannin on pluggin.

Yeah I was concerned i could damage the chem somehow, yall seemed quite concerned.

I also prefer not to let evaporate as I'm lazy and I'd have to resuck it all out to measure it and then put it back lol...

 

[Solipsis]

Now that you mention it, the shelflife of aMT could very well be significantly diminished in an acidic environment. It depends on the properties of the compound, a little acid is probably fine but I think if you're not planning on finishing that solution very quickly I would strongly suggest neutralizing it at least a bit.

 

[delsymfan]

How quickly we talking? Being that its only 250mg I'd say it probably has a month to go.

 

[Solipsis]

Impossible to tell really. I'd say there is a good chance you will notice degradation and therefore have to compensate your dosing. But it shouldn't be just gone before the month is out or something.
Why don't you just pick up some baking soda if you are in or near the store, it's all not that big an effort so unless you're totally swamped it is probably worth it.

 

[delsymfan]

Alrighty yeah I'll throw some in there. Not a big deal, just trying to kinda understand the situation a little bit.

Gotta love these store runs.

 

[Solipsis]

Yeah next time just take all the stuff right to the store and dissolve the aMT in a quiet aisle :D
Then if you need anything you can buy it right away!

OK please don't do that, they might frown upon it

 

[delsymfan]

Lol in Peru they probably wouldnt care...

Fortunately im close.. I can walk in 5 minutes. Im just lazy today. And its a little chilly out. And I'm comfy right now.

 

[fastandbulbous]

Yeah... me no have any HCl laying around... Guess its time to go hunting in Peru for another thing.

I swear my nearby stores have to think I'm insane. I've been buying/looking for a lot of random shit lately..

Get clear vinegar - it's basically just dilute soln of acetic acid (it's what I've used in the past to dissolve AMT in solution - acetate salts are generally pretty soluble creatures

 

[delsymfan]

Hey just for an update. Poured 10ml of my magic potion into a cup, and added probably 30ml more water.

It didnt burn at all. Kinda tasted lemony. Actually the taste was fine, it was the smell of ass I didnt like. Very easy to throw down in two swigs.

Teeth felt kinda like bad after though from the acidity, so I definitely brushed those boys.

So yeah I dont think its bad but I'll buy some baking soda tomorrow.

 

[PepperSocks]

Good idea

It'll make it last longer too if it's at a neutral pH.

 

[PepperSocks]

Merging into the Solutions: Solubility & Stability Mega-Thread

 

[Solipsis]

I propose a table in the first post of this thread, in the rows we put compound names and in the columns solvents. Then we start by scouring this thread and the net for solubilities and fill the table with values, then hopefully we can find some people prepared to do a small solubility test on their precious chemicals.
I mean it wouldn't even have to cost any material (well perhaps sometimes), you can just make a stock solution of the material you tested.
If we all chip in we could have something to be quite proud of!

We should color-code the values to maintain certainty of values, professionally measured values are of course better than our own hearsay but still its all very helpful for future reference don't you worry bout that!

Pending a few days and a few of your opinions I will start thinking of a way to render the table.

 

[isotopic_parody]

I like this idea Solipsis...

I would be willing to help with most of the compounds I have... (Although I currently have most of them in solution already... )

 

[adrian89987]

woo man Delsym, that drink you drank was at a pH of the highest prolly about 1.6, deeeefinitely try to neutralize that some

 

[isotopic_parody]

I'm not sure where to put this... so I'm putting it in both possible threads.

Does anyone have any personal experience dissolving DOC in dH2O? I've read mostly that it dissolves very well... some saying as high as 33mg/ml... But I also have just read a few reports of it not wanting to dissolve in water at all.

I see it being pretty soluble in water, really. 2c-c was very soluble in water and amphetamines are generally water soluble.. I don't know why this one wouldn't be... but after a report of some kid being a dumbass and drinking part of a half dissolved solution of 25mg and having a very very intense trip, I just want to be certain before attempting to make a solution.

Any solid first hand remarks anyone can offer to me? If you have put it into dH2O, how soluble did it seem? ethanol remarks are welcome for contrast as well.

Thanks!

 

[lessthanthree]

Hi can anyone help me? I have 60mg of 2c-e ... How can I make a water solution in layman terms please. Thanks ...

 

[Qnick]

Hi can anyone help me? I have 60mg of 2c-e ... How can I make a water solution in layman terms please. Thanks ...

The easiest way would be to dissolve the 60 mg (after double checking the weight) in 60mL of water.

Then you'll have a 1mg/mL solution, which means for each mg you want to ingest, you'll have 1mL of liquid.

From there all you need is something that can measure out mLs, which could be a plastic oral syringe or a measuring teaspoon (5mL).

 

[ZzZzZ]

Hey, guys I read the first 4 pages of this thread and I don't have time to read the rest... Help would be greatly appreciated. I have 175 mg of 2ci and I want to dissolve in a liquid that will keep it stable and not degrade it. I have 190 proof Everclear and I also have access to distilled water. I'm wondering what is the best to use for dissolving the 2ci, what would be the most accurate and what would keep it good the longest. I'd think the 190 proof distilled alcohol, but I'm not sure. I know people say that I could have gotten more or less than I ordered so I will work my way up from threshold doses on my first dose with it. I'm planning on storing it in a mL dropper. Please help! I have limited time to research and I want to dose soonish.

Edit- I've got no money to get a scale, if i don't get an answer soon, i'll eyeball a very small amount and work my way up, thanks.

 

[Delsyd]

Everclear will keep your solution stable for longer (even though PEA's are pretty stable regardless).

You can disolve your 175mg of 2c-i into 175 ml of everclear and have a 1mg/ml solution.

Thats the easiest way i can think of.