I really have no idea how to make head or tail of this drug. I find it absolutely fascinating though, and for some reason I always find it weirdly exhilarating even though the majority of my trips tend to be nothing like what could be described 'fun' or 'pleasant'. Nothing has ever so completely shattered my conception of reality. I guess that knowing that there is something that can so utterly destroy everything that you hold to be true so quickly is good for one's humility at least.
The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration
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Yeah, those are the words I was looking for to sum up my feelings about salvia.
lostPixels
Bluelighter
A cautionary story here... Salvia isn't a recreational drug.
I bought a bag of 10x online a month or so ago and brought it along to a party last night. After some kids are talking about how "cool" acid is I whip out my baggy and say "ever tried this??"
They're all like "10x, that's for bitches man, it wont do anything!"
Well, one kid named J packs a bowl. Before I notice he's outside, standing, hitting it. It hit him almost instantly. I didn't get outside until he was seriously disassociated. He's pulling his mouth open with his hands, and starts trying to do flips in this narrow kitchen, ending up on the ground and moving very bizarrely. Everyone's asking him questions(imagine how this would feel while under the effects of salvia) and he's unresponsive.
After a couple of minutes he began talking back to us, but the rest of the night he was really quiet and kept to himself.
So after all that I decide to take my turn. This is my first experience, and I'm almost shaking after what just happened. I've been okay during trips before where my mind manifested demons, where I've done drugs that make my body go numb, so I figure I can handle it a little better.
I take 3 good hits and hold them in. J mentions "It's like being stuck to a log rolling down a hill" and I immediately tilt sideways in a chair and lose perception of gravity. I felt like I was in a dream, I questioned my reality for a second, because I felt like I could "tilt" away from this reality and go to another frame of it. I could almost pull away.
I felt really uncomfortable after I came down, still a little wobbly. I didn't want to be in this hazed, tired state all night. So we all decide to head out and I almost immediately feel better.
Next time I'm trying it in a quiet, comfortable place with my friends, and I'm prepared to let go of this reality and dive deeper.
I have a question though, how do you guys handle your hits? I was told to do three ones right in a row. For my time, I did 2, then repacked the bowl, which may have screwed the timing up.
I bought a bag of 10x online a month or so ago and brought it along to a party last night. After some kids are talking about how "cool" acid is I whip out my baggy and say "ever tried this??"
They're all like "10x, that's for bitches man, it wont do anything!"
Well, one kid named J packs a bowl. Before I notice he's outside, standing, hitting it. It hit him almost instantly. I didn't get outside until he was seriously disassociated. He's pulling his mouth open with his hands, and starts trying to do flips in this narrow kitchen, ending up on the ground and moving very bizarrely. Everyone's asking him questions(imagine how this would feel while under the effects of salvia) and he's unresponsive.
After a couple of minutes he began talking back to us, but the rest of the night he was really quiet and kept to himself.
So after all that I decide to take my turn. This is my first experience, and I'm almost shaking after what just happened. I've been okay during trips before where my mind manifested demons, where I've done drugs that make my body go numb, so I figure I can handle it a little better.
I take 3 good hits and hold them in. J mentions "It's like being stuck to a log rolling down a hill" and I immediately tilt sideways in a chair and lose perception of gravity. I felt like I was in a dream, I questioned my reality for a second, because I felt like I could "tilt" away from this reality and go to another frame of it. I could almost pull away.
I felt really uncomfortable after I came down, still a little wobbly. I didn't want to be in this hazed, tired state all night. So we all decide to head out and I almost immediately feel better.
Next time I'm trying it in a quiet, comfortable place with my friends, and I'm prepared to let go of this reality and dive deeper.
I have a question though, how do you guys handle your hits? I was told to do three ones right in a row. For my time, I did 2, then repacked the bowl, which may have screwed the timing up.
psood0nym
Bluelighter
If it was bright and shaped that way, and appeared near the upside of the lighter after lighting a cigarette, it was probably just the saliva hallucinations reacting to the spark of the flint.
rollin_stoned
Bluelighter
What strength of extract should a beginner start with, and how quickly does tolerance build? I ask the second part because I was wondering if it would be okay to take a hit, see where it gets me, and keep taking hits till I'm where I want to be. Also, how much is needed, does it say on the package how much to smoke?
PepperSocks
Bluelight Crew
Here's Erowid's Salvia dosing page
It depends on what strength of extract you have (5x, 10x, 20x?).
It also varies between batches and between people. Maybe just put a tiny bit in your bong or pipe to gauge your own dose.
It depends on what strength of extract you have (5x, 10x, 20x?).
It also varies between batches and between people. Maybe just put a tiny bit in your bong or pipe to gauge your own dose.
rollin_stoned
Bluelighter
yeah, that didn't really help at all /:
I was thinking possibly getting the 10x
I was thinking possibly getting the 10x
PepperSocks
Bluelight Crew
That's likely a good strength. Calculate your initial dosage by dividing Erowid's numbers for 5x in half.
You're likely best off just trying a little "plug" in your bong.
You're likely best off just trying a little "plug" in your bong.
rollin_stoned
Bluelighter
whatever, i guess it's illegal in my state......why in the hell would they make one thing legal in one state, but a schedule I drug in another?
lostPixels
Bluelighter
Some more info about Salvia I've come across and experienced...
10x is pretty good to start with, I have a bag for it and a bag of the leaves which I mix.
You actually lose tolerance over time from what I understand, like you body becomes more equipped to handle Sally D.
It metabolizes within 2-3 minutes. That's your window. The best way to smoke it is take a lung full, hold for 30, release, breathe, repeat ASAP. Usually within that first 30 it hits me enough, and I go from focusing on holding my breath, to not caring, and that's when I know it's good.
I've been smoking it alone in the dark, and have experienced some interesting things. The first time I could hear a womans voice circling my head, chanting in some non-distinct language. After that I hit it again, and this time I saw thousands of little rectangles surrounding my field of vision, each one with a little human face, all singing. As I closed my eyes (they seemed to be coaxing me to) they joined together and I saw all kinds of other weird things, most of which I can't remember.
One thing that's important is to remove all outside distractions. Anything your senses can detect will weaken your experience. The best way to do it IMO is in a quiet, dark basement.
After some time I'm gonna order some 60x standardized extract off the internet and see where that takes me.
10x is pretty good to start with, I have a bag for it and a bag of the leaves which I mix.
You actually lose tolerance over time from what I understand, like you body becomes more equipped to handle Sally D.
It metabolizes within 2-3 minutes. That's your window. The best way to smoke it is take a lung full, hold for 30, release, breathe, repeat ASAP. Usually within that first 30 it hits me enough, and I go from focusing on holding my breath, to not caring, and that's when I know it's good.
I've been smoking it alone in the dark, and have experienced some interesting things. The first time I could hear a womans voice circling my head, chanting in some non-distinct language. After that I hit it again, and this time I saw thousands of little rectangles surrounding my field of vision, each one with a little human face, all singing. As I closed my eyes (they seemed to be coaxing me to) they joined together and I saw all kinds of other weird things, most of which I can't remember.
One thing that's important is to remove all outside distractions. Anything your senses can detect will weaken your experience. The best way to do it IMO is in a quiet, dark basement.
After some time I'm gonna order some 60x standardized extract off the internet and see where that takes me.
RecklessWOT
Bluelight Crew
Things to do with 40X salvia besides smoking it?
So I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this up as salvia isn't your typical psychedelic, but seemed a fitting place to me...
Before anybody tries to say oh no don't do salvia it's terrible and scary - I love salvia.
Now that that's out of the way...
40x salvia, don't feel like smoking it right now. I don't have a bong, or a good enough way to heat it to be smoked normally (a regular bic lighter doesn't do the job). I don't want to waste it.
I know I need leaves to make a quid.
I searched for the possibility of making a tea out of it, but that was all about using the leaves too, and I only have a powdered extract. Can I still make some sort of tea out of it, or can I cook with it / just eat it? I know much about salvia, but never bothered looking into these methods so I have no clue at this point.
EDIT: I do have some non-extracted leaf but it's shredded (I need whole leaves for a quid) and it's very old at that. I figure it's next to useless except to line the bowl with it to stop the extract powder from falling through into the bong, that's really the only reason I keep that stuff around.
So I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this up as salvia isn't your typical psychedelic, but seemed a fitting place to me...
Before anybody tries to say oh no don't do salvia it's terrible and scary - I love salvia.
Now that that's out of the way...
40x salvia, don't feel like smoking it right now. I don't have a bong, or a good enough way to heat it to be smoked normally (a regular bic lighter doesn't do the job). I don't want to waste it.
I know I need leaves to make a quid.
I searched for the possibility of making a tea out of it, but that was all about using the leaves too, and I only have a powdered extract. Can I still make some sort of tea out of it, or can I cook with it / just eat it? I know much about salvia, but never bothered looking into these methods so I have no clue at this point.
EDIT: I do have some non-extracted leaf but it's shredded (I need whole leaves for a quid) and it's very old at that. I figure it's next to useless except to line the bowl with it to stop the extract powder from falling through into the bong, that's really the only reason I keep that stuff around.
DOB
Bluelighter
give it to me as present 
RecklessWOT
Bluelight Crew
heh, that's not quite what I had in mind. Nice try tho 
PepperSocks
Bluelight Crew
Just take some and stick it under your tongue or inside your lip. It acts like a quid but take a lot less material because it's 40x
jamaica0535
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why would you need leaves to put something in your mouth to absorb through the membranes?
You have 40x extract on a leaf substrate.....
Why would that not work even more effectively?
You could toss it into a non-polar solvent for a bit, filter out the leaves and do whatever with what you have there.... You could lay some salvia blotter and eat/smoke the paper.... If you used ethanol you could drink it.....
Or just throw it away.... i consider myself a little bit biased on salvia.... A little more than a year ago i was camping and took a bong rip of salvia without really telling anyone "hey guys, im about to do salvia, don't let me do anything stupid" which was a mistake on my part more than theirs.... But i got up and stepped into a camp fire bare foot, got tackled out of the fire, landed on a tent and broke it on the way down....
You have 40x extract on a leaf substrate.....
Why would that not work even more effectively?
You could toss it into a non-polar solvent for a bit, filter out the leaves and do whatever with what you have there.... You could lay some salvia blotter and eat/smoke the paper.... If you used ethanol you could drink it.....
Or just throw it away.... i consider myself a little bit biased on salvia.... A little more than a year ago i was camping and took a bong rip of salvia without really telling anyone "hey guys, im about to do salvia, don't let me do anything stupid" which was a mistake on my part more than theirs.... But i got up and stepped into a camp fire bare foot, got tackled out of the fire, landed on a tent and broke it on the way down....
any major dude
Bluelight Crew
ha, salvia snuff!
and if i remember correctly salvinorin is soluble in ethanol, so you could make a solution, strain & dose sublingually
Newbierock
Bluelighter
^ Wouldn't a simple push/pull have worked ? tavkling you out of the fire sounds ab it muvh lol. but still, least your friends got your bavk.
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