Only Mazatec as far as I know - Salvia is native to an extremely small area of Mexico so it's unlikely it grows in land belonging to more than one tribe.
The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration
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Only Mazatec as far as I know - Salvia is native to an extremely small area of Mexico so it's unlikely it grows in land belonging to more than one tribe.
RedAcolyte
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Salvia- What a trip!
It is amazing how your subconscious mind works. Before I did salvia (minutes before) my friend told me that dead aztec souls infected the salvia plant and poisoned it.
I had a bowl of 60x, I didn't roast it and it was harsh. I kept on going back to clear the cherry, and then I lit the bowl again. Before I could exhale all of it, weird waving sensations flowed through my head. The closet in front of me rippled, and I stood up (bad mistake) and I felt a force pull me around. An odd sensation made half of my body very heavy. I couldn't move my arm or my neck, and I felt the room 'tilt' and I landed on a couch.
I tried to speak, but the words came out in retarded sentences. I was scared, and I began to believe that the entire world was that one room. The colors on the couch reminded me of indian pottery in my grandmother's house when I was young. Suddenly, I believed that evil aztec indians were trying to flip the house upside down. I ran downstairs, and I fell on the grass. I saw the trees expand, and all sensations of the grass upon my body became extremely weird.
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I find it interesting that your subconscious mind works in such strange ways. My friend told me the joke about the evil aztecs, but when I was tripping I had no thought or memory other than that of my grandmother's house. The connection between the indian pottery in her house, and the story my friend told me, created the illusion that evil aztec indians were trying to send me to hell.
I did not think about the story he told me, but my subconscious mind brought the story into a terrifying experience.
How the mind works!
It is amazing how your subconscious mind works. Before I did salvia (minutes before) my friend told me that dead aztec souls infected the salvia plant and poisoned it.
I had a bowl of 60x, I didn't roast it and it was harsh. I kept on going back to clear the cherry, and then I lit the bowl again. Before I could exhale all of it, weird waving sensations flowed through my head. The closet in front of me rippled, and I stood up (bad mistake) and I felt a force pull me around. An odd sensation made half of my body very heavy. I couldn't move my arm or my neck, and I felt the room 'tilt' and I landed on a couch.
I tried to speak, but the words came out in retarded sentences. I was scared, and I began to believe that the entire world was that one room. The colors on the couch reminded me of indian pottery in my grandmother's house when I was young. Suddenly, I believed that evil aztec indians were trying to flip the house upside down. I ran downstairs, and I fell on the grass. I saw the trees expand, and all sensations of the grass upon my body became extremely weird.
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I find it interesting that your subconscious mind works in such strange ways. My friend told me the joke about the evil aztecs, but when I was tripping I had no thought or memory other than that of my grandmother's house. The connection between the indian pottery in her house, and the story my friend told me, created the illusion that evil aztec indians were trying to send me to hell.
I did not think about the story he told me, but my subconscious mind brought the story into a terrifying experience.
How the mind works!
psood0nym
Bluelighter
^Check out this post from earlier in this thread.
Relevant quote:
I think using prepared audio to attempt to influence salvia trips in certain directions is a promising but largely ignored avenue towards imposing some order on the salvia experience. I'm not talking about music, though, something more directive like "you are walking towards a mirror and you see yourself. What do you see?"
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It's fascinating how far gone we can get using salvia yet our minds are still able to recognize outside sensory information and incorporate it into our experience in intelligent ways just as our minds do during dreams.
I think using prepared audio to attempt to influence salvia trips in certain directions is a promising but largely ignored avenue towards imposing some order on the salvia experience. I'm not talking about music, though, something more directive like "you are walking towards a mirror and you see yourself. What do you see?"
junglist15
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after about a year away from this amazing plant, I was reminded again yesterday how powerful and profund this experience can be. One fat bowl of just raw leaf showed me that we are all woven together with space and time, and that life is a beautiful thing, and not to be taken for granted. 
curiosity
Bluelighter
few questions about salvia
%)ok so i tryed 10x for my first time and it wasnt quite what i expected i didnt really get much out of it is it normal that comercial 10x wont really do much?
i was also wondering if since 10x didnt really do anything should i skip straight to 30x to try and get the full effects of salvia or should i try 20x first ive also heard from some sources that anything over 20x is pointless but ive also heard from different sources that it does get better the higher you go
another question this one is about mixing
would it help if i were to mix salvia with cannabis?
i was thinking about getting another 1g of 20-30x still debating and mixing it with canabis and smoking it with a friend to hopefully get the full effect of salvia + more and maybe even an extended high due to the cannabis would this work? if not how would the cannabis change or heighten/weaken the effects of salvia i would greatly appreciate answers to any of thes questions because i would really like to experience the amazing breathtaking high that i keep hearing about that people get from salvia since it is the last drug i wish to try
greatly appreciate any help from anyone with valid information thank you%)
%)ok so i tryed 10x for my first time and it wasnt quite what i expected i didnt really get much out of it is it normal that comercial 10x wont really do much?
i was also wondering if since 10x didnt really do anything should i skip straight to 30x to try and get the full effects of salvia or should i try 20x first ive also heard from some sources that anything over 20x is pointless but ive also heard from different sources that it does get better the higher you go
another question this one is about mixing
would it help if i were to mix salvia with cannabis?
i was thinking about getting another 1g of 20-30x still debating and mixing it with canabis and smoking it with a friend to hopefully get the full effect of salvia + more and maybe even an extended high due to the cannabis would this work? if not how would the cannabis change or heighten/weaken the effects of salvia i would greatly appreciate answers to any of thes questions because i would really like to experience the amazing breathtaking high that i keep hearing about that people get from salvia since it is the last drug i wish to try
greatly appreciate any help from anyone with valid information thank you%)
yea 10x is very weak. hit it out of a bong and it might do you good. but yeah i would easily go up to the 30x. i have freinds that went from 10 straight to 60 so no big deal there, if youre mentally sound. and yes i thought this would be common sense, the higher the number, the more fucked up you get.
salvia is great mixed with weed... really brings out the trippiness of the bud even after you come down. but i get headaches and feel shitty after salvia so it is all fixed up if i smoke bud. if you smoke em together its nice cuz right when youre coming down off the salv the weed kicks in. and yes salvia with weed will make the salvia high a little longer... but its different for every person.
salvia is great mixed with weed... really brings out the trippiness of the bud even after you come down. but i get headaches and feel shitty after salvia so it is all fixed up if i smoke bud. if you smoke em together its nice cuz right when youre coming down off the salv the weed kicks in. and yes salvia with weed will make the salvia high a little longer... but its different for every person.
curiosity
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thanks for the info thats probably what im going to go with then also any suggested enviremonts for a good salvia trips?
tablehead
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High is not the right word to use at all. Its a trip its a blast through a cannon into outter space. Skip to 40x Bull shit 10x wont do shit.
OIf you wanna experience salvia for what it is; DONT MIX WITH WEED
1) Put 1/5 of a gram (40x) into a bowl prefferably a bond minus the water.
2) Rip the ENTIRE BOWL in one hit or as much as your lungs can hold.
3) Then hold hit in for 30seconds NO SHORTER only longer. Exhale count to 10... or try to
4) Youll be in salvia land, charachterized by a 2d feal and tactile Sensations you cannot experience without the help of lady D.
And for a good environment: Not in a place with many people sharp objects or objects in general. To avoid a scary trip and IMO to achieve the best experience: Use a blindfold and headphones with ambient music. TRUST ME
stormyweathers
Bluelighter
^ brings back good memories man
i wish it wasnt illegal in my state now
fuck that shit
salvia is wonderful
its ONLY worth doing it over 20X
has anyone here tried a tincture?
i heard its less intense but much longer and more efficient use of material
i wish it wasnt illegal in my state now
fuck that shit
salvia is wonderful
its ONLY worth doing it over 20X
has anyone here tried a tincture?
i heard its less intense but much longer and more efficient use of material
curiosity
Bluelighter
first off i only have a pipe second i only have acces to 30x here so ill probably go with the 30x bout 2/5 of a gram doing what u said and then if that doesnt do anything ill smoke some cannabis afterwards if needed
stormyweathers
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itll be hard to rip 2/5 at once
and if youve never tripped too hard before, dont expect to take a second hit
and if youve never tripped too hard before, dont expect to take a second hit
curiosity
Bluelighter
hmm alright ill do hit by hit until im satisfied with the effects 1/5 at a time still debating on the cannabis tho
stormyweathers
Bluelighter
^what i mean is you may not be CAPABLE of taking a second hit
its alot slower than 5-MeO-DMT, but alot faster than most smokables.
within 30 seconds or so your tripping.
so unless you can keep your hands steady enough, or have a friend to help you, it will be difficult to take another one
but then again, everybody is different.
it would be kinda hard to take "too much" 30x salvia, so the physical risk isnt too great
and if your of sound mind, the odds of a bad trip are low
enjoy man, and make sure to write a report at least for yourself
its alot slower than 5-MeO-DMT, but alot faster than most smokables.
within 30 seconds or so your tripping.
so unless you can keep your hands steady enough, or have a friend to help you, it will be difficult to take another one
but then again, everybody is different.
it would be kinda hard to take "too much" 30x salvia, so the physical risk isnt too great
and if your of sound mind, the odds of a bad trip are low
enjoy man, and make sure to write a report at least for yourself
curiosity
Bluelighter
alright thx for the heads up btw ive tryed a few drugs(the obvious potand hash,lsd,mushies,EX,speed,ketamine) never bad tripped and never had a problem with dosing high my first time trying a drug so itll probably be the same for salvia
stormyweathers
Bluelighter
salvia is in a class of its own,
but out of that list probably most common to acid,
but out of that list probably most common to acid,
curiosity
Bluelighter
alright well thats the main reason i wanted to get a good trip of it was because it is one of the mose unique drugs and from what ive heard one of the most amazing trips so it got me highly interested
stormyweathers
Bluelighter
great,
youll enjoy it.
my first time on salvia i became a slinky and plopped forward on my face, completely silent except for a stray giggle here and there for 2 mintes (felt like 45)
then for the rest of the time i was equating my surroundings to jack and daxter
it was fun, but wasted on an intellectual level
youll enjoy it.
my first time on salvia i became a slinky and plopped forward on my face, completely silent except for a stray giggle here and there for 2 mintes (felt like 45)
then for the rest of the time i was equating my surroundings to jack and daxter
it was fun, but wasted on an intellectual level
curiosity
Bluelighter
lol nice xD would you say going to a public place like the mall or something while on it would be a bad idea because i cant exactly do it at home because well i cant let my parents kno but its also winter so i dont want to stay outside the whole time im on it so i was plannning on going 2 the mall if im not 2 messed up
Moral Decay
Bluelighter
It's probably been stated but does salvia sensitivity increase after each use?
When I did salvia the handful of times i did it i felt as though each time i smoked it i got more and more pronounced effects. The beginning experiences were all very light and cheerful with enhanced colors and sense of oneness with everything around me. I stopped using it because the final time i used it i took 3 or 4 big bong hits in quick succession and had a life altering experience i wasn't expecting.
Like at first it was a strong feeling that someone was lurking around the corner like when you feel as though you are being followed by someone. I could feel them getting closer and closer and when they "reached me" it was like another person inhabited my body. Another more ancient person or possibly just younger. Everything was interlaced with geometric patters and colors mostly contrasting colors like white and black. A few seconds into the visuals the very fabric of everything began to break apart as if i could see all the tiny atoms that make up everything splitting apart and separating from each other. immediately after the atom separation my relative perspective of everything folded in on itself starting from my peripheral vision and folding into the center of my vision and then into itself at a point behind me, or in my head its really hard to explain. When all of the atoms flowed into me all that was left around me was far different from the surroundings i started in. It was as if i was standing in the forest; i could hear water rushing or like the sound leaves make when the wind blows really hard and in different directions. I could smell dirt and almost taste autumn air (this was probably explainable by the burnt leaf taste in my mouth) I got a strong sensation that gravity was pulling me toward the light in the room which i hallucinated was the sun and felt i was going to fall over into it and break it so i reached out for a tree next to me, in reality I slammed my hand down onto the arm of the chair to steady myself. Upon doping this i became very aware of my skeleton, I was thinking to myself "should i be able to feel every bone in my body like this?". At this point i was entirely overwhelmed by the sensations in my head and body and lost touch with reality. I was babbling nonsensical stuff and asking my friend to make it stop to have the visitor i sensed creep up on me leave. My friend asked me if i needed a hospital and i told him "NO! my girlfriend will be so pissed at me, this will be over in a minute". This caught me into a thought loop and my brain was like a skipping record. All i could say was "it'll be over in a minute" over and over again. I asked him again to help me and he didn't know what else to do so he handed me a cigarette. I don't smoke tobacco but him handing me the cigarette suddenly gave me something tangible to hold onto. I must have been mangling it cause he said "if you not gonna smoke it give it back" and i began dialogue wit him about the comfort it was giving me to have something "modern" in my hand. Eventually after what felt like an hour or more i came back down to reality, i cant really explain more than the first few minutes of the experience because it was so overwhelming i think i blacked it out, dunno maybe it causes amnesia at really high doses.
When I did salvia the handful of times i did it i felt as though each time i smoked it i got more and more pronounced effects. The beginning experiences were all very light and cheerful with enhanced colors and sense of oneness with everything around me. I stopped using it because the final time i used it i took 3 or 4 big bong hits in quick succession and had a life altering experience i wasn't expecting.
Like at first it was a strong feeling that someone was lurking around the corner like when you feel as though you are being followed by someone. I could feel them getting closer and closer and when they "reached me" it was like another person inhabited my body. Another more ancient person or possibly just younger. Everything was interlaced with geometric patters and colors mostly contrasting colors like white and black. A few seconds into the visuals the very fabric of everything began to break apart as if i could see all the tiny atoms that make up everything splitting apart and separating from each other. immediately after the atom separation my relative perspective of everything folded in on itself starting from my peripheral vision and folding into the center of my vision and then into itself at a point behind me, or in my head its really hard to explain. When all of the atoms flowed into me all that was left around me was far different from the surroundings i started in. It was as if i was standing in the forest; i could hear water rushing or like the sound leaves make when the wind blows really hard and in different directions. I could smell dirt and almost taste autumn air (this was probably explainable by the burnt leaf taste in my mouth) I got a strong sensation that gravity was pulling me toward the light in the room which i hallucinated was the sun and felt i was going to fall over into it and break it so i reached out for a tree next to me, in reality I slammed my hand down onto the arm of the chair to steady myself. Upon doping this i became very aware of my skeleton, I was thinking to myself "should i be able to feel every bone in my body like this?". At this point i was entirely overwhelmed by the sensations in my head and body and lost touch with reality. I was babbling nonsensical stuff and asking my friend to make it stop to have the visitor i sensed creep up on me leave. My friend asked me if i needed a hospital and i told him "NO! my girlfriend will be so pissed at me, this will be over in a minute". This caught me into a thought loop and my brain was like a skipping record. All i could say was "it'll be over in a minute" over and over again. I asked him again to help me and he didn't know what else to do so he handed me a cigarette. I don't smoke tobacco but him handing me the cigarette suddenly gave me something tangible to hold onto. I must have been mangling it cause he said "if you not gonna smoke it give it back" and i began dialogue wit him about the comfort it was giving me to have something "modern" in my hand. Eventually after what felt like an hour or more i came back down to reality, i cant really explain more than the first few minutes of the experience because it was so overwhelming i think i blacked it out, dunno maybe it causes amnesia at really high doses.
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Moral Decay
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If your smoking the salvia you will never make it to the mall, you will get hit by a car or fish out in the road or something. If you don't get hit by a car or run over you will be sober by the time you get to the mall. The high when smoked is only about 5-10 min with about an hour of after effects. If you smoke it right before going into the mall your gonna get the cops called you, you will like like someone who is in need of medical or psychiatric assistance. This is not a drug you do in public, not a party drug either. You do this drug safely at home or in someone else's home and you make sure you have a sitter with you the first time or anytime your tripping deep on it.
it could be compared to DMT in that it's a smoked psychedelic with short lasting but intensely powerful effects.
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