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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy PCP Thread

THE_REAL_OBLIVION said:
Uh, PCP was prevalent all over eastern canada from Ontario to Newfoundland since the 70's from until the late 2000's, we're all schizo ghetto boys? 8)
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Sorry, shouldn't have assumed you were in the U.S., but that's where I was referring to. I'm not familiar with what the PCP scene is like in Canada, maybe it's much different than the U.S., but Freon explained pretty well what I was getting at:

Freon said:
Well in the US, PCP is known as a ghetto drug like crack because that's where it's primarily used and sold. I'm not sure why because you don't find much acid, ketamine, or any other hallucinogens in the hood. I think that's why those people freak out on it, because they are not used to drugs like that, they are more used to coke, heroin, weed etc.
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Hello big and dandy! How I have missed you.

After searching fruitlessly for fifteen years I finally found PCP. Yay! I'm wondering what the best thing to do with this stuff is and what to expect. There is only 3mg. I am pretty experienced with dissociatives. DXM was my DOC years ago and hundreds of experiences are under my belt. Also fairly experienced with MXE, N20 and a little K as well and a list too long of other stuff. How does this stuff relate to those? I reaaaally like plugging when ROA allows. But I'm curious how to get the most effect from this outside of IM or IV. Anything that would potentiate it might be nice to know. Booster dose is not an option til next time. Any thoughts or suggestions related or not would be nice. Thanks BL :)
 
Neat, you found it in powder form and know the dosage, I'm gonna guess you're from my big country too ;p

3mg? Just eat it, that's a lowish dose, and eating it lasts a lot longer than any other method but is easier, if you know what I'm sayin'. If it's an hcl powder, don't smoke it. Eating pure is what it was all about when you could find someone willing to sell you well, "pure", 20% pure putty, the guys distributing it are pretty smart in my general area as not to distribute it in too pure forms that could kill somebody who doesn't know what they're doing. But the 20-30% pure white/yellow putty was normally sold cut with lactose to make 15g normally, where 1g would be a standard noob dose.

You're gonna feel the stimulant effects at that dose too, your heart might beat like if you had lots of cocaine, don't freak out, dissociation should be minimal, but there.
 
It's always been hard for me to find information about this substance. Elusive. It's powdery and sort of sticks to itself but it's dry. No what form it is though. I've always heard of smoking it but eating is good too.

How does the stimulant effect compare to MXE?
 
Sporehead said:
It's always been hard for me to find information about this substance. Elusive. It's powdery and sort of sticks to itself but it's dry. No what form it is though. I've always heard of smoking it but eating is good too.

How does the stimulant effect compare to MXE?
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Never had MXE, i'm old school like that, I stopped caring about the RC scene after operation web tryp 1, then when I realized how to find what I wanted, even if it had to come from europe but also found 3 canadian vendors (one is a dickhead), MXE was sold by a canadian vendor for 3 weeks and never again.

I've done PCP about 8-10 times and ketamine orally from special compound pharmacist cream from my ex opi dealer who's truely in pain in both shoulders to the max, who takes ungodly amounts of hydromorph contins and dilaudid per day, they try to have him take less by many means, first there was Cesamet .5mg gelcaps for a long time then he got a ketamine cream mixed with voltaren (NSAID), lyrica, nortryptiline and lidocaine....so I put a small ball of cream on my tongue and got a high reminiscent of PCP but very short, also the dose must have been very low, you can't use those creams to get to a k-hole. Sorry, I would have liked trying MXE but it seems to be gone from most vendors these days.
 
I liked ketamine. The shorteness of it is a cool but its pricey. Mxe is around you just have to know where to look. What about duration of oral PCP vs smoked? Sometimes I just want a shorter experience.
 
Sporehead said:
I liked ketamine. The shorteness of it is a cool but its pricey. Mxe is around you just have to know where to look. What about duration of oral PCP vs smoked? Sometimes I just want a shorter experience.
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I've only taken PCP orally once but iirc it lasted around 6 hours. I've smoked it many many times and strangely enough the duration seemed to vary widely based on the quality of your dust. In general the strong effects lasted around 4 or 5 hours. I've had PCP trips last several days though so you never know with this drug.
 
I've eaten and snorted it pretty often in 2001/2002. Snorted it kicks right in fast with a kind of stimmy effect. Once I snorted a little with an ex gf of mine who pulled out a gram of "mess", which is the form you got in cut with lactose, so to snort it. Hadn't seen it in years and we were like 3 days in a meth eating binge and I was really tired but she wanted to go play billard. It really put me back on my feet with a kind of competitive / concentrated feeling and emptied the pool table in the first 2 games and she didn't get to play. Also another time I got home after a party after snorting some, I was really dissasociated in the bus but once I got home I played Guitar Hero 3 and got 5 stars on the last songs I wasn't able to. It sorts of resets your programmed failures and gives you a lot of confidence in doses that aren't too high, I don't like to be fully dissociated, I know a guy who ate too much at once and stayed in his bed 3 days looking at the ceiling and his mom was telling him "you'll stay like this forever"....crazy bitch.
 
I'm a god on any multiplayer FPS while on MXE. I think dissociatives are similar to psychedelics in that at the right dose it puts you so much into the moment, into the flow, the zone, that you're able to really use your full potential.
 
Beavesmx44 said:
^^^The people you see in youtube videos acting psycho are the same people who are crazy as hell everyday while sober. They simply have an undiagnosed/untreated mental illness of some kind. They couldn't hold down a job if they tried. Crazy people should never take any mind altering chemical unless supervised by a medical professional. Problem is if your truly crazy.....I don't think you would know you were crazy. Most likely they think everyone else is crazy. lol.
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WRONG.
I used to think this but with anesthetics it can happen to anybody. Never underestimate what these drugs can do to you if you take too much.
Only time I've ever fucked out on drugs was after an IV propofol shot in hospital. Apparently I got off the operating table and tried to escape because I didn't want the sevoflurane gas. The doctors had to restrain me. I don't remember a thing.
 
^^^^guaranteed you have lost control on other substances as well. Only people with mental health issues choose to push the edge and "take too much". Stop blaming the drugs.
 
i too have committed some very bizarre acts on ketamine in public that were absolutely very scary for people to witness, involving a knife and little clothing. i knew what i was doing, i just didn't give a fuck. i would never hurt anyone, i just found it hilarious to be the center of fear.

there was much mdpv in that phase of my life too, though
 
Beavesmx44 said:
^^^^guaranteed you have lost control on other substances as well.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
I'm an experienced and heavy psychedelic user, I've been smoking weed daily for 7 years and I like to party on benzos (which have a reputation for causing memory loss and stupid behaviour).
Listen: I have been in some right states - some very nice and some not so nice - but I've NEVER got to the point where I didn't know what I was doing, or did anything I later regretted.

Only people with mental health issues choose to push the edge and "take too much". Stop blaming the drugs.
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I used to think this way too and I'm telling you, it's bullshit.
We're talking about anesthetic drugs here, not weed or psychedelics. These drugs rob you of your consciousness - it's what they were designd to do. It really doesn't matter how hard-headed you think you are. They are so effective at what they do that a surgeon can slice you open and you literally won't feel or remember a thing.

And don't forget that this thread is about PCP which can be very easy to take too much of if you're smoking dipsticks.

I would thank you to research Propofol before you try to discredit me. This stuff is known as 'milk of amnesia' and for good reason.
I didn't "choose to push the edge and take too much". It was administered to me in a clinical setting by an anesthetist while I was on the operating table. Obviously the amount I was given put me into a state where I wasn't quite totally unconscious and still able to move around, which is extremely dangerous. PCP was notorious for doing this to people (being quite a strong stimulant as well as an anesthetic), which is why it's no longer used as a surgical anesthetic. Have you ever heard of the term 'psychotomimetic'?

My mental health is perfectly fine. I've got antisocial personality disorder but that's a non-issue - if anything this makes it easier for me to handle mindbending drugs.
 
Yeah but the point is that the mad 'beat up the police/punch a plate glass window through' stories make the news and youtube cos they're unusual - like in the bill hicks routine, you don't get news stories like 'today a young man took pcp, realised we're all one consciousness experiencing itself and there's no such thing as death - now here's tom with the weather'. Most people in that state wouldn't do that mad stuff, just dribble on the floor (or dribble incoherently while pacing up and down the bus naked maybe).

Unfortunately, this is compounded by people watching those youtube vids and thinking that's what it's supposed to do to everyone (like wanting to fly/become orange juice on lsd), and even seeking it out because they think it does that in some macho wish-fulfilment fantasy - they then try and act that stuff out in a suggestible state like life imitating art/youtube. IME i only experienced bliss, joyful feelings and a bit of alice-in-wonderland weirdness - i didn't once feel the need to lift a car over my head or break some handcuffs or anything (getting out the door would have been tricky anyway).
 
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AA357 said:
My mental health is perfectly fine. I've got antisocial personality disorder, but that's a non-issue -- if anything, this makes it easier for me to handle mind-bending drugs.
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ASPD is a very serious condition that shouldn't be underestimated. For the sake of harm reduction, I would like to say that ASPD sufferers shouldn't take psychedelic drugs (or street drugs, for that matter, except perhaps cannabis, as long as it's taken in moderation). That said, I wonder if this condition could be successfully treated with psychedelic therapy while under the care of a very highly trained and experienced psychiatrist that hasn't been bought by the pharmaceutical industry.

Link to ASPD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

Anyhow, you're correct about the rest of what you've been saying. A person doesn't need to be predisposed to psychotic behavior in order to be capable of going ape while under the influence of a drug like PCP (or any other powerful mind-altering substance, actually).
 
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