• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe | Cheshire_Kat

The Big & Dandy Nootropics Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
I've been taking the piracetam about 4-6 times each week with alpha gpc and it is definitely having a noticeable effect. I find it gives me a perceptible increase in reading comprehension and allows me to read/work for longer periods of time without getting mental fatigue.

It also seems to give me slightly more focused trains of thought in which associative and analytical thinking is increased.

Considering trying hydergine as well because it's on pretty much everyones stack. Must do something good if it's so popular. What do you guys think of it? Would you recommend it?
 
Last edited:
I definitely recommend hydergine, especially in combination with piracetam. The two are perfect together. I find hydergine to contribute to increased understanding and usage of language, both spoken and written, and most noticeably a mood leveling effect where I feel a bit sparkly all day, almost like an extremely low dose of LSD but completely positive. I also never get head rushes and feel like I'm getting plenty of oxygen. I believe one of its effects is to help regulate oxygen levels to the brain, reducing it if it's too much and increasing it if it's too little. If I recall correctly - and I can't be bother to look it up right now and it's been some time since I've thought about it - it's is sometimes given in cases where the heart needs to be stopped and blood flow will stop, increasing the time until brain damage from several minutes to I believe 20+.

Look it up and you'll find a pretty impressive array of health and cognitive benefits, for both hydergine and piracetam. Evidence seems to suggest that both, especially hydergine, are extremely healthy for the brain and can slow aging. And Albert Hofmann, the discoverer of both LSD and hydergine, took hydergine every day of his life and lived until 102, healthy until the end.

MeDieViL said:
Any experiences of pramiracetam in combination with recreational substances?
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
delta_9 said:
There is evidence, athough only anecdotal, of 'racetam drugs potentiating amphetamines and phenethylamines. Although I don't know by how much.
I've done some experimenting with piracetam/DMAE + amphetamine and didn't notice any significant potentiation.
Pramiracetam is supposed to be the best of the 'racetams, but I have yet to try it.(It's pretty expensive :\)

But obviously, if one 'racetam drug interacts(negatively or positively) with recreational drugs, it's not crazy to think the others may as well.
Click to expand...

I'm wondering because someone stated that pramiracetam caused extremely weird effects in combination with mdma.
 
I've started taking piracetam today for the first time. Should I be worried about interaction/potentiation of psychedelics? A few people in this thread have mentioned possible potentiation, and some even suggested ceasing usage before a trip, but I don't think anyone has definitively confirmed that there's an issue. Anyone have any firm knowledge about this? Thanks.
 
I've been taking piracetam for the last 4 days, 1-2 grams each day, with about 1/2 to 2/3 as much choline as piracetam.

I have felt extremely spacy and my thoughts feel slower than normal. I haven't added/removed anything else, so I'm assuming it's from the piracetam? The first day I took it, I felt a vague sort of clarity, but since then I've felt a noticeable negative effect.

Any advice/ similar experiences?
 
i take 1-2 grams piracetam about 4 or 5 days a week.
with a my multivitamin, omega fish oils and 5htp.

The multi-vit has choline but i dont know if its enough.

How much choline should one be taking with piracetam?

Also i've read that taking ~1g 3 times a day is the best way to take piracetam. Is this true? Or will my once a day dosing be enough?
 
Delsyd said:
i take 1-2 grams piracetam about 4 or 5 days a week.
with a my multivitamin, omega fish oils and 5htp.

The multi-vit has choline but i dont know if its enough.

How much choline should one be taking with piracetam?

Also i've read that taking ~1g 3 times a day is the best way to take piracetam. Is this true? Or will my once a day dosing be enough?
Click to expand...

Depends, there are lots of different sources for choline(DMAE, centrophenoxine, lecithin, choline citrate/bitartrate/phosphate, etc.) and they all provide different amounts.
I usually go with 200mg DMAE with around a gram or so of piracetam in the morning.
Also depends on how much(if any) you get from your diet.
 
Just supplemented my supplements :)
It will arrive later this week from abroad...

- Choline Citrate (I used to buy lecithin at the local drugstore but having this is bulk in this form is better)
- Acetyl-Carnitine
- ECGC from green tea
- Glucosamine
- new Phenibut

Just have to say I'm very impressed with phenibut, at first I hated having to quit every so often but now its a great help when I can use it and fine when I don't. Great mood enhancer!
 
What dose do u use of ohenibut as a mood enhancer.

The dosage info for that one different depending where you read it.

Last i read 1g seperated into Three 333mg doses taken through out the day. That was from the supplier. Then fcourse there are those of us that take a gram or two to get off.

im just curious what dose You use.
 
I think 750mg - 1g is a good starting dose for mood lift. Perhaps a bit lower or higher depending on how noticeable you want it to be. I don't think anything below 500mg would do that much though.

Phenibut really does work well as an anti-depressant. It's like it becomes impossible for me to think negative things while I'm on the right dose. It also great that it lasts so long. I take it about 2x a week.

I also just ordered some hydergine 4.5 mg tabs. Does anyone know if it matters that much whether they are the FAS (Facilitated Absorption System) kind? It was alot more expensive and only one site I could find sold it so I just went with the regular ones as no one on here mentioned FAS.

Any dosing recommendations? I was thinking just one 4.5mg tab per day to start.
 
Last edited:
Its not a nootropic by any means, but 600-800 mg is perfect IMO for mental relaxation and moderately reduced inhibitions. Phenibut seems to have the positives of alcohol without any of the negatives, at least in my limited experience...leaves cognition more or less intact.
 
irisdescence said:
I've been taking piracetam for the last 4 days, 1-2 grams each day, with about 1/2 to 2/3 as much choline as piracetam.

I have felt extremely spacy and my thoughts feel slower than normal. I haven't added/removed anything else, so I'm assuming it's from the piracetam? The first day I took it, I felt a vague sort of clarity, but since then I've felt a noticeable negative effect.

Any advice/ similar experiences?
Click to expand...

Yes, take 800mg once per day and only use it on days where you're specifically working out your brain, not when you're just going to sit around and not do anything in particular. I find that taking too much is counterproductive, making you cloudy, and that 800mg is perfect for the effects I want. Also, you can take more choline.
 
Delta-9-THC said:
I think 750mg - 1g is a good starting dose for mood lift. Perhaps a bit lower or higher depending on how noticeable you want it to be. I don't think anything below 500mg would do that much though.

Phenibut really does work well as an anti-depressant. It's like it becomes impossible for me to think negative things while I'm on the right dose. It also great that it lasts so long. I take it about 2x a week.

I also just ordered some hydergine 4.5 mg tabs. Does anyone know if it matters that much whether they are the FAS (Facilitated Absorption System) kind? It was alot more expensive and only one site I could find sold it so I just went with the regular ones as no one on here mentioned FAS.

Any dosing recommendations? I was thinking just one 4.5mg tab per day to start.
Click to expand...

The FAS do not matter... it helps to absorb the hydergine sublingually though. Also, starting with a 4.5mg tab is probably a good idea to get a feel for the effects but after you get the hang of it half of the 4.5mg tab should also be good, which stretches it further.

Regarding phenibut, please stick to that 2x a week, as it can become physically/mental addictive.
 
Yea I actually find that if I go ever that it loses pretty much all its positive effects and just leaves me feeling weird so it shouldn't be too hard to keep it at that. I'm pretty good about using that one as needed and not more.
 
i think phenibut may just not be for me.

i took 1 gram today with my stack.
Im sure it had some minor effects but nothing i couldnt get from a low dose of diazepam. I was expecting a bit more euphoria.

That leaves more phenibut for the rest you ya'll.

im really enjoying taking piracetam daily though. Im definately starting to notice the difference more and more each day.
I think once i start smoking less pot in Nvember the effects will become even more apparent.
 
I'm the exact opposite. No euphoria from benzos for me but plenty from phenibut. Benzos actually tend to leave me in a slightly depressing state of malaise.
 
The first few times I tried phenibut I didn't get much either. Until the time I took about 800 mgs about 5 hours before going to sleep. Felt the extremely mild calmness but then slept like a rock for 9 hours and could have slept longer. So I can use pheniburt when I want a good nights sleep. If nothing else sleep will be deeper. I can't use large doses though. Anything above a gram is way too much. Also it takes me at least 3 hours before kicking in. But I do remember the first few tries thinking there wasn't anything to it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top