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The Big & Dandy 'Nausea and Psychedelics' Thread

Nausea/ Vommitting & That one Trip

Recently I have been having a problem with vommiting on tryptamine psychedelics. I have not been tripping as hard as I want to and there is nothing it seems I could do but up the dose, since I am not tripping more than once a week tolerance isnt really an issue. I once had a particularly impactful, ground shattering experience on 20mg of 5-MeO-MiPT which I really can't overemphasize the intensity of and nothing it seems I do even gets close. At 30mg of 4-Ho-MiPT, 27mg 4-AcO-MiPT, and a 33mg 1:1 mix of 4-Ho-MiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT I have always ended up vommitting right during the comeup. Do you think that this has any effect on how much of the substance my body is absorbing? If I am already feeling the effects when I vommit is it reasonable to assume that it has already all gotten into my bloodstream. The thing that bothers me most about the vommitting isnt the unpleasantness of it, its just the feeling that I may be wasting some of the chemical and wont trip as hard I would like.

On that one 20mg 5-MeO-MiPT that I try to keep attaining the intensity of it was odd because I had no nausea/ side effects whatsoever and it came on ridiculosuly fast. In 5 minutes I could feel it and in another 5 things started patterning. On no other trip have things came on this fast. I even took a 24mg 5-MeO-MiPT trip recently and it took around a half hour to come on and I felt nausea (but didnt vomit.)

So basically, any tips of decreasing nausea (without smoking marijuana) and intensifying the trip would be appreciated. Also any postulations as to why I came up soo fast and tripped so hard that one time would be nice. Also any other reports of oddities in the effects of psychedelics, like coming on really fast or tripping really hard at a lower dose.
 
I'm gonna have to point you to the rectal admin thread, yeah yeah I know but seriously it's totally worth it.
 
Stop taking tryptamines (or psychedelics alltogether) for a few weeks. Even if you still puke, the tolerance will at least have gone down:\ I find that the more often I trip, the more I also tend to get some nausea, though not always enough to cause puking.
 
CretiNation said:
I'm gonna have to point you to the rectal admin thread, yeah yeah I know but seriously it's totally worth it.
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I dont know. It sounds like a lot of work too shoot some solution up your ass and then lay down until the feeling of needing to defecate subsides. And you cant just shoot things up your ass anywhere. It is easy to just pop a pill anywhere though.
 
I agree with CretiNation, rectal admin is definitely worth a try. You do not have to shoot liquid, you can insert a gelcap, it just takes a while longer to disolve. It is definitely a possible solution to your problem.
 
First piece of advice: take a break. Contrary to what a lot of people will say, tripping once a week does result in tolerance ... both psychological and physiological.

After you take a nice break, you can try a low dose antihistamine or some ginger root for the nausea. You can also try to make sure you have a mostly but not totally empty stomach.

Or you could try rectal, although I'm guessing that the nausea has started to become psychologically associated with tripping, so I bet rectal will be even worse. But at least you won't puke up any of the drug so maybe you'll be able to get over it.

My opinion is that your body is trying to tell you something ... maybe something along the lines of, "Stop putting drugs in me!" :X

:D
 
Dodante does have a good point. I thought of that myself. I remember a few years ago, I was tripping about once a week on mushrooms, and I began having problems. Very dark and difficult trips developed, and they were psychologically brutal. I didn't understand what was going on, and when I posted a similar question over at mycotopia.net, someone gave me advice like Dodante's. I didn't heed it at the time, because I just figured there was some other force at work, but I eventually turned away from mushrooms for a long time, and now looking back, I really think that guy was right.

Perhaps you might want to go away from your chosen chems for a while, or change the pace and go with something much different. You might find things change. There are certainly psychosomatic aspects to this problem. Not to say it is all in your head, but there is a complex mind-body-universe thing, and yes, maybe it is all trying to tell you something.
 
Im not having bad trips at all. I am just not getting to the level of depth that I am hoping for. And everytime I try to do so by upping the dose, I just get more intense visuals and nausea, not that comsic spacy "blam" feeling accompanied by intense deep thought. I suppose Ill try taking a little longer breaks in the future, after the trip I have planned out for next thursday that is. :\
5-MeO-MiPT I do find to be a really good one though. Great one actually.

And about this ginger root. Is this just an item you can find in every grocery store because I like the idea of chewing this ginger root.

And how exactly does one shove a gelcap up their ass?
 
psychedelics_r_best said:
I am just not getting to the level of depth that I am hoping for. And everytime I try to do so by upping the dose, I just get more intense visuals and nausea, not that comsic spacy "blam" feeling accompanied by intense deep thought.
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That happened to me too after tripping weekly. The only answer is to take a break. Your mind is just too used to the psychedelic state for it to be as novel as it once was.
 
eliminating nausea on the comeup?

the first time i have taken a psychedelic was 2ce, granted i did take it right after eating a sandwich and was very nauseated on the comeup and eventually puked and felt horrible during the trip which caused me to spend the rest of it lying down in my bed. thinking about taking some 2ci in about an hour. and the main thing that could cause the trip to go bad for me is going to be nausea.
 
2Cs are notorious for causing nausea, apparently. Try to make sure your stomach contents are ideal, and try to chill yourself out. Remember puking isn't the end of the world, as long as you don't lose your dose. ;)
 
I pretty much always puke on psyches. I used to be fine on lsd, but now am not.
On the other hand, I went through a phase of always puking on pills, and ever since I completely stopped doing pills and only do "pure" mdma, my problems went away.
 
I like to smoke weed whenever i feel like puking...it usually helps

I have never had 2ce but i have had 2ci and that was the cleanest comeup and comedown i have ever had...i didnt even get the smallest stomach ache

but everyone is different

tripp face ;)
 
On 2Cs I will usually spend the come-up laying down with eyes closed and music playing. I find this helps with the nausea (which is intermittent) and also puts me in a great mindpsace for the trip to start. You can really put yourself in a trance listening to music with eyes closed, relaxing. Great way to start a trip.
 
thanks guys, im staring at the pill i just capped, it weighs anywhere from 15mg to 17mg(JPresision10), i think ill wait a little while till my roomate comes home and smoke with him, get high, then drop.... now to decide on what to do...
 
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