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The Big & Dandy 'Nausea and Psychedelics' Thread

does no one else think that 2ce might not be the best psychadelic to try for one's first trip?
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Actually I think it would be one of the better ones. Certainly more euphoric and easier than mushrooms or acid. Intense visuals, yes, but I think it would be pretty unlikely to cause a bad trip, certainly less than shrooms. My first was 2C-T-2 (5mg snorted and 5 eaten) and my second was 20-30 mg oral 2C-E. Great, positive times on both.

As far as nausea goes I find I get it with 2C-X's when I snort but not when I eat. Still when I did get it I had the best time vomiting of my life.
 
I have used 2C-E twice and it caused slight nausea but did not make me puke. It did not even come close to making me puke. It had almost no body load at all for me.

The visuals were some of the best I have had. The only thing i've tried that was more visual was 4-ho-mipt. At higher doses 2c-e will likely be even more visual than 4-ho-mipt. The mental effects are also very strong. I was walking around in my back yard at night and felt that something evil was coming to get me. I knew it was just the drug that was causing the feeling but it is the first time I felt that on a psychedelic.
 
You could try taking some Benadryl beforehand. I haven't tried this, but it has been reported to diminish nausea from some other drugs such as AMT. I always get some nausea from 2C-x drugs, the only exception for me so far has been taking 2C-B after MDMA which has been consistently trouble-free.
 
Personally i've found that it's not best to take it on an empty stomach, a small meal of cooked vegetables (or something else that is light and easy to digest, but i prefer vegetables) an hour or two before the trip will minimise the nausea in my experience. I have much more of it on an completely empty stomach.
Hope you have a nice first trip :)
 
Definitely fast for at least 4-6 hours, 6 if possible before taking 2C-E. I have always done this with 2C-E, and I've never experienced any stomach discomfort with up to 16mgs. With 18mgs, I was only slightly nauseated. Cannabis helps alot.

However, as a warning, be careful with 2C-E. It can get intense, even at 10-12mgs. It is also the most visual compound I have ever ingested. I have had people that have used LSD and mushrooms plenty of times and told me they never really experienced good visuals. One day I decided to take 16mgs of 2C-E with this person (he took the same dose), and I told him that today he would experience it. He wasn't fully believing. By the end of the trip, he was afraid of his own shadow.

As for trying 2C-E as a first psychedelic other than entactogenics, I could go both ways. I guess it would depend on your personality and how confident you are about it. Never underestimate it. I will say that. 12mgs was my first dose, and when the peak came, it overwhelmed me a couple times and I was fully accustomed to LSA, LSD, high doses of mushrooms, and I had eaten Peyote before as well.

However, I did find something about it comfortable. It didn't seem to have the "edge" that LSD does. Just when I felt as if I could barely handle the intensity, it went away, whereas LSD will keep coming and coming and coming, especially when you get scared. LSD is quite hard to handle in that it seems quite threatening at high doses. 2C-E is intense, but there was something comfortable about it at 12-16mgs. Now 16mgs+ is a different story.
 
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I have a really strong stomach and almost never get sick but 2C-E did the trick on me. I snorted about 12mg on an empty stomach and figured because I did not swallow it that I would avoid the nausea but I was wrong. I drank about 2 beers and barfed them both up about 45 minutes after snorting.

Just so ya all know, 2C-E is not a good RC for beginners. Snorting is not a good way to do RCs and drinking is something a lot of people choose to avoid when taking psychodelics.
 
I suspect that if i had drunk 2 beers i would have felt more nausea whilst on 2c-e.
 
fearhs said:
Actually I think it would be one of the better ones. Certainly more euphoric and easier than mushrooms or acid. Intense visuals, yes, but I think it would be pretty unlikely to cause a bad trip, certainly less than shrooms. My first was 2C-T-2 (5mg snorted and 5 eaten) and my second was 20-30 mg oral 2C-E. Great, positive times on both.

As far as nausea goes I find I get it with 2C-X's when I snort but not when I eat. Still when I did get it I had the best time vomiting of my life.
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I wouldnt say that 2ce is "easier" than anything else because that all depends on dosage dont you think? Also, I think that the lack of euphoria not to mention the amount of nausea that is common with 2ce experiences would make it one of the ABSOLUTE WORST psychadelics for a first timer.
 
I would not advice a first timer to psychedelics to use 2c-e ether, nowadays. If you are going to, 12mg at the most, until you under stand what A psychedelic can do to/for you.

Back in 1970 there where lots of use who never knew what a psychedelic was, let alone what it did. Me for one!

My first time taking a psychedelic was amazing; simply put!!
I took a very little orange barrow named "Orange Sunshine" This was in San Francisco California. I was lucky that my set and setting was at home. Some where not so lucky.

My first time taking 2C-E some 3 years ago; i took 20mg; i indeed was taken to a very strong +4! If it where not for my age and past high dose LSD, Mescaline, shroom trips i would of lost it. Hell taking 18mg reminds me of taking 250ugs of LSD. I prefer 16mgs. To bad its so hard to find.
though the memories will with me forever!
cheers
 
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I have a really strong stomach and almost never get sick but 2C-E did the trick on me. I snorted about 12mg on an empty stomach and figured because I did not swallow it that I would avoid the nausea but I was wrong. I drank about 2 beers and barfed them both up about 45 minutes after snorting.

Just so ya all know, 2C-E is not a good RC for beginners. Snorting is not a good way to do RCs and drinking is something a lot of people choose to avoid when taking psychodelics.
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2c-e is much more potent when snorted. Probably about 3 times more potent. Maybe if you had eaten 12mg the nausea would not have been as bad.
 
according to what several people have told me, plus my own experiences, snorted 2ce isnt anything like oral.

not only is the burn extremely bad, but the visuals are drastically diminished, and the theraputic value is basically gone. stick with eating it.

as for nausea, i get stomach cramps pretty much everytime i do 2ce, but usually not until after the peak, iirc (its been a long while since i've done it)
 
For my favorite psychedelic, it's got the worst come up for me. Bloated with gas, cramps, nasty heart burn sensation that crawls up my throat. Usually it goes away for me within 20 minutes......Just try to make it through the come up and ill feelings should subside.
 
tathra said:
according to what several people have told me, plus my own experiences, snorted 2ce isnt anything like oral.

not only is the burn extremely bad, but the visuals are drastically diminished, and the theraputic value is basically gone. stick with eating it.

as for nausea, i get stomach cramps pretty much everytime i do 2ce, but usually not until after the peak, iirc (its been a long while since i've done it)
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I snorted 5mg of 2c-e a couple of hours ago. The high is significantly more intense than my 12mg trip but the visuals are about the same as 12mg oral. The high feels different. It is a more fucked-up feeling than my oral 2c-e trips. I have tripped 5 or 6 times in the last two weeks so that may affect the quality of my trips. I am going to try to wait at least 10 days before I trip again. I think I prefer oral over snorted. It burned my nose pretty bad. I blew my nose a few minutes ago and there was a little bit of blood. I do not think I will snort again. If I do it will be like 2mg to prolong an oral or rectal trip. I only experienced slight nausea. Even with 30mg oral I only experienced slight nausea and no other side effects.
 
Ayahausca nausea difficulties

My first two ayahausca experiences have resulted in me puking too quickly. This isn't surprising, im a small guy with a delicate stomach. (stuff hits me really fast though). Im fairly used to nausea caused by morning glory, hbwr, and alcohol but puking ayahausca is becoming disappointing and costly. The first time I kept 15g mimosa in for 15 minutes maybe. I had a very good low-dose experience complete with the beginning of amazing visuals and ego loss. Sadly, the most recent time I kept 33g virdis down for a whopping 1.5 minutes, resulting in no experience:

I had filtered it beforehand, so there was no floating matter. All in all it tasted pretty 'good' - not as bad as the mimosa and definately not as bad as morning glory. It tasted a very sharp earthy taste, you know. I chugged about .8 liters, hoping that 'bombing' my stomach would result in a more powerful experience than slowly sipping it. I was wrong. :\

On the other hand, deep down I felt no need to be 'experimenting' with ayahausca at the time. My life is good and dabbling with the power of dmt doesnt feel needed. So maybe my mind just aborted quickly knowing that I didn't really care if i tripped or not. Additionally, I was supposed to be drinking it with a friend but he backed out at the last moment.

I thought viridis was supposed to be less nauseous than mimosa. What are your experiences with this powerful nausea, and how do you avoid it?
 
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Three ideas:

1. Sip it slowly over half an hour
2. Rectal administration
3. Boil some water off til you're left with half a cup of ayahuasca.
 
- lie down/deep breathing
- antinausea medications
- lower dose (I find that 5g mimosa is plenty, and I wouldn't dare to try 15.)
- moclobemide as the MAOI
 
Metoclopramide and psychedelic nausea

I was wondering- nausea often sends me crazy or at least very little boy when the drugs kick in (LSD, k, San Pdro, LSA aya etc.), often resulting in extreme purging from either end of the purgative spectrum. That sensations not too bad, its always a good but unnecesary purge though, and can continue until the drug has left.. Nausea in an unalterd state can make me panicky (one of 'triggers') Would use of Metoclopramide present any dangers in combining with most/any psychedelic? Its mechanism of action involkves the same receptor sites.

I am very keen to reduce these symptoms, ads i perceive them to be more toxic physical then badstuuf/mental. Metoclopramide is very effective at reducing nausea, and i mean very. However the dopamine antagonism could mean something.....
 
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