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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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ColtDan said:
ok im on my second extraction. the layers have separated but for some reason the top layer isnt very clear. its not crystal clear like on my first extraction, its kinda cloudy clear. whats the reason for this? over time will it clear or shall i start pulling it?
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Higher DMT saturation - pull it.

If it's orangey yellow then it's more fatty and oily, but generally means it was supersaturated.

It's good when that happens, didn't happen on my first 2 extractions. Or the last ones(going back to Brazilian mimosa next extraction - the last stuff stuff SUCKED).
 
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Jblazingphoenix100 said:
Higher DMT saturation - pull it.

If it's orangey yellow then it's more fatty and oily, but generally means it was supersaturated.

It's good when that happens, didn't happen on my first 2 extractions. Or the last ones(going back to Brazilian mimosa - this stuff SUCKS).
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This.

I've noticed with my latest extractions that my first pulls are very clear with very little in them, for whatever reason. But my 2nd and 3rd pulls are chock full. I've even had to do a 5th (!) pull because there was so much left in the 4th.
Beyond the first pull they usually cloud up a bit, but cloudiness of the naptha and DMT content don't seem to be mutually exclusive.

On a side note: I've had some used naptha from an old extraction/freeze precip sitting around, it seemed one day to just became cloudy and now there's some flaky junk floating around and settling in there. Anyone have an idea what this is? Or how I can separate it? Why did it suddenly appear? There's enough DMT in there that I'd hate for it to go to waste.
 
Addam said:
This.

I've noticed with my latest extractions that my first pulls are very clear with very little in them, for whatever reason. But my 2nd and 3rd pulls are chock full. I've even had to do a 5th (!) pull because there was so much left in the 4th.
Beyond the first pull they usually cloud up a bit, but cloudiness of the naptha and DMT content don't seem to be mutually exclusive.

On a side note: I've had some used naptha from an old extraction/freeze precip sitting around, it seemed one day to just became cloudy and now there's some flaky junk floating around and settling in there. Anyone have an idea what this is? Or how I can separate it? Why did it suddenly appear? There's enough DMT in there that I'd hate for it to go to waste.
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Seriously?!?! THis sounds odd dude - the first pull is pretty much THE big one - I never get supersaturated 3rd or 4th pulls!

The used naptha - well it's evap'd a bit, and so it's more saturated now - so it will appear more saturated.

The flakey bits floating around - speculation would be DMT crystals, but I've only ever had this happen on top of the aqueous layer of an extraction when there's some remaining naptha after the 3rd of 4th pull, tbh it's probably detritus from not having it covered properly!
 
It is odd. The used naptha was immediately placed in jars and sealed tight, so no evaporation. It was clear(not cloudy) and yellow, as would be expected. Been sitting around for at least a month and all of a sudden one day it was cloudy and then the next couple days after that there was debris floating in there. Flaky stuff. I'm not sure what it is but it does resemble the snowy DMT that I get from a rapid freeze precip.
Perhaps the room it has been in cooled down enough for some to precip, as it has been colder lately. But I really did not think there was THAT much DMT in there and if it wasn't crashing out in the freezer, why would it now?
I'm baffled. I really wanted to reuse it to get what was left after the freeze precip but I'm unsure now if I should.
I'll probably try giving it a hot water bath to see if it goes back into solution. If that doesn't work maybe I'll run it through a filter to remove the unidentified junk.
Any other thoughts anyone?


Add: The first pull being the least fruitful has me baffled as well. My last 2 extracts have done this. Comes out clear but with very little content. My 2nd and third ones being the most saturated. Seems to go against convention. Ah well, not gonna sweat it too much when the other pulls are making up for it. Just odd.

By the way, thanks Jblazingphoenix, for the help/advice you gave me a while back. It does seem to be a thing that practice makes perfect. Got 1.2g of beautiful DMT fumarate most recently :)
 
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the cops have your ip address,your beggin to get busted

johannes kreisler said:
a first successful extraction was made yesterday. happy. :)
naphta from the 1st pull was poured back into the mhrb-lye-container.
12 hours later the naphta has taken on a brown/amber tone. no emulsion, no goo but it is really dark and not lightly yellow.
probably someone had similar results before and can give some advice...
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flush it down the toilet and destroy all evidence you ever manufactured a scedule 1 controlled substance, you really think the cops don't read/moderate this site, once the have your ip, they can trace your physical location.
The repurcusions are no joke, and if you ever try it again don't go dry-snitching it to world with daily updates. you sound amateur go to festival and buy it off a pro, seriously
 
Eh, I've never heard of law enforcement actively hunting down home extractors. All of the dmt busts I have ever read about happened because a) the person was selling or b) they suspected a meth lab.

You should still be careful of course - if, most likely through a twist of fate, you DID get caught the repercussions would be no joke indeed, especially for something that feels so innocent...

Also, the post you responded to is almost six months old ;)
 
Pour the naphtha onto a perspex baking dish giving it more surface area to evap quicker with the fan. It evaps pretty quickly anyway
 
To all of those who extract and provide the experience of DMT to others (hopefully as a gift instead of profit motivated) I wish to say thank you....

Being one of the people who feel that this experience has changed them in the most positive of ways, I think your doing something good for this world and those you come into contact with, and i hope you do so with the best of intentions.

The spice must flow.
 
dude most people buy their rootbark on ebay

electric spirit said:
Eh, I've never heard of law enforcement actively hunting down home extractors. All of the dmt busts I have ever read about happened because a) the person was selling or b) they suspected a meth lab.

You should still be careful of course - if, most likely through a twist of fate, you DID get caught the repercussions would be no joke indeed, especially for something that feels so innocent...

Also, the post you responded to is almost six months old ;)
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I just wanted to drive the point home that most hostilis transactions go through paypal which is linked to all your personal information. The cops go after small fish or big a busts a bust, and 90 percent come from tip offs. I'm not saying don't extract, I love spice. Just do in secrecy and not in a public forum traceble to your ip. that info ain't 6 months old, you think this furum isn't owned by the DEA ?
 
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Noman's Tek specifies a "dust mask", but should one really have a vapor/water-resistant mask?

Is a dust mask vapor/water resistant ?
 
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i wouldnt worry about it too much. if anything get a gas mask to protect against organic vapors for working with naptha/xylene etc... and just use that.

powdered bark becomes a very fine smoke if disturbed and im sure you dont want that in your lungs either.

you should be ok, but if you get mesothelioma or some shit when your in your 80s your gonna wish you went for the mask.


so who here has heard of doing an acid soak before you basify (not an A/B extraction) so that jungle spice will crystalize with toluene or xylene?

i thought that sounded pretty awesome when i read about it. almost makes me want to go back to making spice again just to see that... almost
 
Hey, another if anyone knows, all I see at the grocery store is 'White Distilled Vinegar' that says "Diluted with water to 5% acidity", is this the right kind of vinegar ?
 
Yerg said:
Why do you need vinegar? If you're using MHRB just go STB.
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Ok I will do STB. The vinegar is for cleanup of lye utensils / possible spill neutralizer. I don't know if there is some sort of 100% vinegar.

How long after putting naphtha pulls in masonry and in a cold freezer do DMT crystals begin forming?
 
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Doesn't really matter what kind of vinegar, malt is cheaper than distilled but both are fine. The vast majority of vinegar is around 5%, if you wanted stronger you could find pickling vinegar or just boil some of the water off normal stuff. 100% acid is impossible because acidity is a property of solutions in water.

How long it takes for crystals to form largely depends on how saturated the solvent is.
 
I can see some itsy bitsy ones in the bottom of my third and second pulls now. It's been around 24 hours in the freezer. My plan is to take the NP out and evaporate it down 1/2, then stick back in? In my third pull I see the most. Is it reasonable to want to complete a 4th pull today, and leave yet another sitting in the bark for another 24 hours?
 
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