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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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Honestly, a scale isnt exactly necessary for this. A pH meter or paper is extremely helpful, if not necessary though. Just add enough concentrated NaOH solution until the pH hits around 10-11. But, once you get the hang of it, you can judge it by the color the basified mimosa water turns.
 
Hmm - in my opinion a scale is actually rather useless when smoking breakthrough amounts of DMT. If you intend to test the results of minute differences in smaller dosages, then of course a scale is necessary. It's sometimes difficult to smoke an entire breakthrough dosage, though, simply because it hits so fast; hence, even if you load a pre-measured quantity you may only smoke it partially, rendering the measurements useless. It's also nigh impossible to overdose on smoked DMT, so you don't need to worry about loading too much.
 
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It's also nigh impossible to overdose on smoked DMT, so you don't need to worry about loading too much.
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Agreed. IV is another story though...I thoroughly recommend a scale! This is from personal experience. I was so cocky from smoking that I overdid it by a good deal (judging from the effects, I injected at least 60-70mg). Thankfully DMT is very forgiving physically, but, mentally, I lucked out.
 
MHRB yeild

I wouldve Posted this in the big and dandy but my phone won't let me search ATM.

If I have 56g MHRB what can I expect the yeild to be if done correctly? I forget the actual dmt content. I plan on using this as a started batch and actually don't have a certain tek in mind. I found a 'poor mans tek' on the nexus. All organic supposedly.

Edit: found the link. I was maybe gonna go with this as it would be a first extraction for me and don't think roomies would be cool with noxious chemicals. Plus I can't post in that forum yet.

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=9372
 
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I've heard 1-2% by mass as a general rule of thumb for the standard lye-naptha based teks, so if it's good mhrb then roughly a gram of freebase I guess? Never done a pull myself.
 
I've heard 0.5% to 2%, with most people reporting on the low end.

As i read over those naptha/lye teks, i can't help but think that they're using way the hell too much lye, and probably lowering yield as a result.
 
^how would adding too much lye lower yield?

it does he opposite from what ive read.

throwing in extra base with will actually help u get the last bit of goodies out of it (jungle spice, darker fattier dmt, etc)

1% can be considered average=D
 
Yeah 0,5-1% sounds about right. Ive had as little as 0,3 % and as much as 1,9%. It depends on how lucky (and thorough) you are =D
 
Not sure but you don't want to overdo it. The ratio of ~1g lye per g of mimosa bark is commonly thought to be the best.

That's already an extremely basic solution and should strip everything from the bark. Adding more is likely just a waste of lye and makes things even more dangerous if there's a spill, not to mention environmental stuff.
 
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^how would adding too much lye lower yield?
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Is DMT unharmed by what (by my rough estimates) is a nearly concentrated solution of lye? What is the purpose of adding craptons of lye, other than wasting lye and producing more-noxious waste, anyway? Once you've pushed it past the pH needed to ensure that it's present as the base, of what benefit is adding more? I seriously doubt there's a need for that much lye. 1 gram per gram of bark is a huge amount of lye, especially if working on anything other than a really small scale.

If I get a chance, i'll try a few variants on the standard procedures, and report back in the DMT extraction thread.

Also, i must note, if you look at the dates on the tek's, the more modern ones involve more lye, and complain that the yield from todays MHRB is worse than in the past.
 
So should I do one of the more expensive chemical based teks? The poor mans tek seems worth a go but who knows what will happen.
 
Any extraction that gives somewhat pure DMT as the product is going to require chemicals (other than water).

Now that we're getting into extraction procedures I'm going to merge this with our Big DMT Extraction thread.

Have a read through it. I believe it's Marsofold's tek that is the simplest and gives a good yield of quite pure DMT. It's main downfall if the requirement for a lot of lye.

If you have any more questions feel free to continue posting in this thread.
 
DMT Extraction in process, HELP!!!!!

Hey bluelighters, im extracting some DMT right now. The stage im on is, I have water + mhbr + naptha + lye in a jar and am doing the first pull. On the tek im following it says seperate the 2 top layers, but mine has 3!!! the top layer is all white, like clear water or the naptha, 2nd layer is below the white, its a foamy brownish type thing, and below that is 90% of the jar, its dark brown\black with a hint of purple. My question is do I pull out the white layer only? or the brownish foamy layer as well?
 
You were too violent when you homogenized the polar and nonpolar liquids. I'm guessing you shook it around. You're only supposed to gently tilt your jug back and forth during this process.

The topmost clear layer is the naphtha, which contains the DMT in solution. Don't let anything from the foamy or water-based layers contaminate your final product. The foamy middle layer is called an "emulsion layer", which is a remainder of polar and nonpolar fluid which is having trouble separating. To help speed up the emulsion separation, submerge your jug in a hot water bath.
 
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