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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Part 13: Don't you know? MXE comes from MXE-co

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Oh how I just love a good binge. I've done about 3 grams of MXE and 500mg 3-MeO-PCP in a few weeks and now running out of stuff. Haven't holed or even tried to hole in couple of weeks, just been taking ~20mg butt shots throughout the day to maintain my MXE state of mind and good vibes to great success. Few bouts of paranoid ideation and dark introspection which I sorted out. Life is good but I wonder what comes next.
 
from 60 to 160 a day. It seem I'm a bit better now, but this morning I was somewhat trippy for hours.
It's a really good batch, 70mg = almost loss of consciousness.
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So in a nutshell I felt a bit tripped/fried for 1 day (monday). My normal consciousness seemed to got back on track tuesday, but I'm still a little off now, probably nothing too abnormal since in my week binge, Ive consumed with no tolerance 600mg MXE (3 hole in the week), 600mg methylone, 400mg 3mmc, 700mg 4Fa, 200mg 4MEC, 40mg bromazepam, + occasionnal booze.
I bet I'll be back to full normal at the end of the week (last intake was 24mg of bromazepam tuesday, felt it still wednesday, long half life).
I'm currently a bit high on 30mg MXE lol. I fucking love this molecule.

I doubt Ill get permanent effect from MXE, it seem very rare from what I've researched, if someone can confirm ? Generally ppl get permanently fucked from DXM>>>>MXE>Ketamine>Nitrous
 
Folley said:
I honestly don't think there's a single thing wrong with insufflation of MXE. It's pretty damn effective, hits quite smoothly and IMO is one of the most pleasurable RoAs. There's just something about racking up a line or two with some friends that other RoAs can't touch.


That's not to say it's the most effective way, but it's certainly my favorite.
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It's to stimulating for and I insufflation hasn't taken me near where any ROA has. IMO only oral is less efficient and still far better. It always seems to be a pretty mixed bag between those who like and loath insufflation.

My recent batch was awesome, 60mgs IM was near a hole and 75-80 was there.
 
^ I've had SERIOUSLY intense holes from sniffing, like to the level of watching the walls around me rip open and transform into an abyss of psychedelic bubbles.


Whenever I tried oral it seemed very inefficient, I needed like twice the dose to do anything and it was still not nearly as intense. Plugging is great with this drug, but I really dislike that RoA due to the hassle so I only used it a few times. I don't mess with needles so i can't say on that, but I still say that for the day-to-day dosing that most people do with this drug - snorting is likely going to be the easiest and most "fun" RoA. With a lowered tolerance I could most likely "hole" on 75mg at once snorted, although I've found larger doses at once to actually be less conducive to getting you into a hole than smaller staggered ones.



For me it's usually 30mg = High 60mg = Fucked Up and 90+mg = curled up into the fetal position
 
^ Me too.
I love plugging once or twice a night, it is the most predictable, and smooth way to send me hole-bound, but it is a hassle to get it to go into solution, lube up, squirt up, clean up and blah blah blah. So most of my little bumps and lines are sniffed. Oral has never really done it for me with reasonable amounts of material, though my friend who won't try any other ROA likes it just fine.
 
what do you all mean 'oral' ? Like, put the powder in a cap and swallow it? P

I swear, the best roa method for this drug is under the tongue. best over-all effects from the drug this way, and sometimes a bigger euphoria rush. it just takes longer (sometimes) than snorting to kick in and get going. i find if you're dosing medium to high range for yourself, than under the tongue feels like double the dose than snorting. I have not tried low amounts under tongue.

snort 5mg for the anti-depressant effects, then have 3 x 10mg caps through out the night,. usually might snort one of the caps. by the last cap you might have ur lean on haha.
 
I only tried oral too (only swallow the cap), how do you take under the tonge? Do you put the gelcap under the tongue? Is disgusting?
 
No, place the powder under the tongue, not a gelcap. If you get your MXE in gelcaps, take the powder out and place it under the tongue.
 
I weigh the drug, sprinkle it on my tongue, slosh water through my mouth to dissolve it, then swallow and chase with a second gulp.
Just as good as sublingual in my experience.
 
I think I damaged myself doing sublingual MXE for 1-2 yrs. Constant heartburn and the feeling that my esophagus is sore. Plus doing some experiments I found that it's useless to actually hold it in your mouth, because it seemed swallowing the saliva was what actually did the trick. Tried a couple of times holding it under tongue and then spitting out the saliva - pretty much no effect. Another member confirmed this on BL, but I forget his name.

Just ran out of MXE after a blissfun binge. Feeling really weird and empty.
 
Guys do u think MXE have an excitotoxic potential ?

I mean, generally 1h after a hole, I'm in a strongly unpleasant state where I feel over sensitised/speedy/anxious. Minor stimulation, senses (touch, sound, sight) are felt too "strongly" and distorted. Basically I feel fried for 30 min to 1 hour. This is paradoxically mixed with a sense of well being (can't explain that). It's like I'm in a state where I'm semi dissociated and semi over-excitated in some disagreeable way (not like speed or DA/DRI stimulant).

I feel this state is toxic, I begin to wonder if it's not a rebound effect of antagonising NMDA channels . Basically my assumption is that after antagonisation, NMDA channel get too much excited, and I fear this state have the possibility to lead to excitotoxicity.
 
Not educated enough to even speculate, but an hour after a hole I'm normally just hungry, starting to get sleepy and a little wobbly. Music is still real nice, touch is a little deadened, sight is a little blurry but able to read normally. Way easier than coming off say 3rd Plateau DXM for me anyway.
It is pretty normal to be a bit fried after an intense drug experience.
 
What do people know about the effects of MXE on intelligence? While high off the drug I feel pretty stupid and it's very hard for me to comprehend fairly simple concepts. But what about if a person is micro-dosing MXE daily for 1-2 week periods then laying off it for 1-2 weeks whilst being in college at the same time, and this person is of above average intelligence and doing some difficult mathematics-intense courses, do you think it will make it very difficult for him to do well or even pass? What about the long term effects of MXE on brain power?
 
I feel like MXE has a very real effect on cognition. Language is one thing that becomes significantly harder to comprehend. I often find myself severely struggling to find a word to fit the idea I'm trying to get across, even if I've used that word in the past. I'm sure math would be the same, if not worse..



I don't think the drug itself will cause you to fail, but it's CERTAINLY not helping anything.
 
I tried MXE for the first time 2 days ago, and am coming up on a little bit again right now and I was wondering if anyone has experienced any increased motivation from this stuff? It may be noteworthy that I had an opiate addiction for a couple yrs, if anyone here has gone thru that also. When I use MXE in small doses ~10-20mg at a time intranasally, it gives me a strong drive to accomplish anything in my mind. It's actually pretty fantastic and I was wondering if anyone has felt that and if that could possibly be related to the combination of dissociative and sedating effects. It feels like its acting like suboxone would, restoring my brain to a normal drive to pursue goals and stuff. Anyone else have that experience or shed some more light on it as it relates to previous opiate addiction? All the studies on addiction and the nature of Ketamine or psychedelics comes to mind for me. It gives me a pleasurable feeling but not a complacency. I like it but it's as if I can't use it without something to write with and work on
 
Yes i know what you mean. awesome thoughts, well-being, energy. psychedelic thoughts;

personally i think it's the anti-depressant effect in me.
 
Folley said:
I feel like MXE has a very real effect on cognition. Language is one thing that becomes significantly harder to comprehend. I often find myself severely struggling to find a word to fit the idea I'm trying to get across, even if I've used that word in the past. I'm sure math would be the same, if not worse..
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I find that abstract concepts (especially anything involving self-reference) seem to make more intuitive sense, while complicated algebraic manipulations or long chains of logical deduction become nearly impossible to follow.
 
Damn, I don't know if I could take a test 2 hrs after M-holing. But idk, i'm not in school right now so that stuff isn't in my mind. I do feel pretty lucid on the comedown, like a time for reflection. MXE does not like to be pigeon-holed apparently by me. It has effects from every class of substances
 
Confield said:
Plus doing some experiments I found that it's useless to actually hold it in your mouth, because it seemed swallowing the saliva was what actually did the trick. Tried a couple of times holding it under tongue and then spitting out the saliva - pretty much no effect. Another member confirmed this on BL, but I forget his name.
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That would be me. I urged people to peer review the experiment but no one was willing to spit out their MXE to verify. And so you have tons of people who snort despite it having been proven its more manic, less psychedelic and shorter lived, fucking with their mucous membranes, and you have tons of people putting their teeth and mouth linings at risk with sublingual while this has been proven to be no more effective than plain old oral. Depressing, few people study and optimize their DOC.

For MXE:

IV > IM > Rectal > Oral > Sublingual > Insufflated
 
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