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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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Jesusgreen said:
Alright, thanks :)

Back on topic, I'm curious - for other people here, how long did it take for tolerance to start becoming apparent with this?
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In my case, a week. Although I was using it everyday. When I first started I could do 20-30mg for that nice high, but I started using it everyday and by the end of the week I was doing 50-70mg. A month later, I could do 200-250mg and not even be completely fucked up. The last time I did mxe I took ~500mg over the course of a few hours and after the trip I realized I needed a break. It's been a month break now since the last time I have done it, and I am going to try it again to see if low doses will be pleasant again. Which brings me to my question...

A couple weeks ago I started taking seroquel 25mg a night daily, I am planning on doing mxe tonight and when I take dose it will of been over 24 hours since my last seroquel dose. Does anyone know if there will be any interactions or blockage of effects? After doing some research I see that mxe is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and that seroquel is a dopamine antagonist, but I'm not sure what that exactly means as to how they will interact. Thankfully seroquel only has a half life of 6 hours, but I'm guessing it's possible there could still be some lingering in my system. Any thoughts?
 
oh enough with the riddles already ;p is some ban comin' or something? you're scarin me over here ;p
 
bans just around the corner... surprised it hasn't been banned already
 
Any tips on how to keep your mind from going into dark places?

I've been reading a book by a holocaust survivor. My thoughts strayed to that for some reason, and suddenly I got a very unpleasant feeling and got caught in a negative thought pattern -

a) guilt that I'm tripping & having a great time while others are in (insert stereotypical bad situation here - e.g. starving children, someone being devoured by a shark, someone being raped, etc.)
b) thoughts about how much suffering there is in the world
c) brief images, feelings or thoughts relating to violence and other indignities that people (and other animals) can inflict upon each other
d) thinking about how utterly vulnerable I am - my flesh, my brain, all so easily abused etc.
e) the realisation that I'm not special and that anything could happen to me or my family - the nearly infinite potential for terror, pain, and horror - and that we're at the mercy of a reality that barely understands itself
f) the idea that compassion is just one little facet of I-don't-know-how-many survival strategies in an indifferent universe... a world where cruelty, indifference, detachment etc. seem to be the norm

...that sort of shit.

I know it sounds dumb, but it'd be nice if people posted their methods for avoiding such unpleasantness during what is supposed to be a good trip.
Thanks!
 
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I have the opposite problem. I find it very hard to care about anything meaningful when taking dissociatives. I take on the typical escapist "Nothing matters" view until I'm fully back down, which worries me sometimes as no other drugs really do that to me, except alcohol to some extent. If you're having negative thoughts, maybe clear up your sober mindset before your next trip? If you've got stuff on your mind, it's generally best to avoid tripping, unless you're purposefully tripping for introspection in the hope of resolving any of those issues.

Also regarding the emergency scheduling in the UK. I read a little through the legislation and it seems that for them to temporarily ban anything the ACMD will have to take time to come to a decision first and they can only act based on that. Unless the ACMD is all government lackeys now, I doubt they'll just be banning everything left right and center.
 
i find dissocatives make me feel protected, and i can turn my thoughts off and not care about anything. i feel all cosy like im in an euphoric shell, love it
 
I was perfectly content - enjoying myself etc. - when suddenly *BOOM* bad trip for a few minutes.
It's the way I think, probably. I've had issues with depression and I often find it hard to rein in my thoughts.
Even if I'm super happy before I start tripping, a tiny little thought can trigger an avalanche of negativity and paranoia.

It's hard to account for your subconscious!

If only it were as easy as "stroke the furry wall", eh?

(reference to 'Get him to the Greek' there.. decent film)

edit: In hindsight, I guess a succinct description of the feeling I described would be 'despair'

Anyway I'm fine now.

Speaking of which, I bet playing with a kitten or a puppy on MXE would just overload your brain with joy.
 
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oxmo, I have that with psychedelics sometimes but never with dissociatives. The one moment of negativity I've had during a dissociative experience was my first ever K hole, I didn't realise quite what a K hole entailed and I thought I was dying or something, then boom - I was on the other side, and from then on I've never had any negative moments on dissociatives really. I guess it just shows how different they are from person to person though, just like psychedelics.

I've played with my dogs on MXE and it was indeed wonderful :)
 
oxmo said:
Speaking of which, I bet playing with a kitten or a puppy on MXE would just overload your brain with joy.
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oh dude, my cat makes me laugh my ass off when I'm on MXE. ;)

anyway, as I wasn't around any major ban - is there gonna be some warning or something? Or one day they just gonna force vendors to take it off their websites? And why can't they move to like Hungary or something like they did with bath salts. I would assume MXE is a pretty lucrative business.
 
Lost in Translation on MXE = is it dusty in here or what? I think I've got something in my eye...
 
oxmo said:
Any tips on how to keep your mind from going into dark places?
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I know it sounds dumb, but it'd be nice if people posted their methods for avoiding such unpleasantness during what is supposed to be a good trip.
Thanks!
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by way of a solution i offer you this: the things you worry about are things every respectable human being worries about. it seems like you have a desire to improve the world you live in. perhaps volunteering some of your time to an advocacy group you like would resolve the guilt issues at least?
also, with regards to compassion: idk what your experience with serotogenic psychedelics is, but they sometimes make me feel that compassion is a beautiful thing that every person has at their core and renew my respect and awe for the bright parts of humanity.

Jesusgreen said:
^ I don't find the afterglow from this one to be quite as "positive and happy" as the Ketamine afterglow, but it's stimulating instead which does allow me to be more productive.
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Not everytime, but sometimes i will feel very positive and confident in an unexpected way the day after i dose MXE... its reminiscent of buproprion (or maybe i just think it is coz i read too much!).

The residual DaRI effects are definitely always there, even when it doesn't feel positive. I fell into taking ~20 mg a day over thanksgiving and it left me exhausted. probably coz i wasn't sleeping right coz mxe seems to leave you slightly 'jacked' for about 18 hrs

(slightly related: massive downs to every psychiatrist who has prescribed an extended-release NDRI :D:D ... it ain't so easy to sleep or eat when you're ALWAYS on a stimulant!)
 
Jesusgreen said:
Alright, thanks :)

Back on topic, I'm curious - for other people here, how long did it take for tolerance to start becoming apparent with this?
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After several months of often using it in low to medium doses multiple times a day. Now, 10 months after first using it, it still works as a DARI, but it would take an uncomfortably high dose to get noticeable dissociation.

If I take a break for a couple weeks I can get interesting effects from a single or a few doses.

I enjoy MXE mostly for its unique antidepressant and motivational effects. However the side effects like vasoconstriction, in particular, are starting to become more pronounced even at small doses. So it is becoming difficult to use this drug with the benefits still outweighing the negatives.

At this point I am just saving what I have and using it for nights out... it feels more physically benign when mixed with alcohol and I am dancing or being active. Due to the vasodilation that occurs under those circumstances.

And to answer the question: how to die on MXE? Heart attack or stroke. Or an accident such as drowning.
 
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Also, another point.

Even though MXE is losing its effectiveness for me, I recently took a month break from it. My personality and confidence remain at an all-time high. I believe I have self meta-reprogrammed my personality much to my benefit in the last most-of-a-year when I have used a good amount of MXE. These changes are permanent. I experience no withdrawl from MXE when I take breaks.

However I believe many people are ignoring the fact that this stuff really strains the cardiovascular system. Be careful folks..
 
Sup dude, long time.

Ya MXE is such a good "self meta-reprogramming tool".

It even got me off heroin (with ZERO heroin withdrawals). I was on top of the world, but then one day I was ridding a bike down to the corner store for some spice, and a car hit me... bad times. I lost the MXE magic.

Must reprogram. The real problem is all the fucking bunk mixie out that. I one again missed my opportunity to stockpile. Oh well, fuck it.
 
Hey man! that's amazing you had zero WDs using MXE?

There is still good MXE around as good as it ever was. But yeah it does seem to vary. Don't want to get into source discussion so ;)
 
oxmo said:
Any tips on how to keep your mind from going into dark places?
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For me, choice of music seems to have a big influence on my MXE trips/experiences. So I would suggest if you notice those thoughts to immediately put on or change to some calming or soothing music; focus on that and allow it redirect the experience.

That is, if music has that effect for you. It's at least worth a shot.

(I'm particularly susceptible to music even while sober, so I may be an odd one. But great music on a great sound system is a great drug on it's own. :) )
 
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