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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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^ fucking spot on. words of wisdom

influential factors for me include state of mood, tiredness, what ive eaten... all kinds of things. in terms of influence, i reckon this stuff has benefited me, opened me up, shown me things and changed my perspective more than smoking DMT has. its a strange teacher
 
^ :D I was wondering what exactly our friend Triglav meant by "odd formulas".

By the way DwayneHoover, your PM inbox was reportedly FULL when I tried to send you a message!

When was this? I go there just now and it says:
"Inbox contains 50 messages. You have 54 messages stored, of a total 100 allowed."

And the little graph shows plenty of green (available space) so I don't know what is going on.
 
I dont find quantum physics scientific at all to describe ANYTHING beyond subatomic levels.

I know this is off topic but just wanted to make an educational reply...

Check out this site, that lists research showing that in fact quantum effects DO have an impact at macroscopic sizes and have been utilized by bio-organisms for various sophisticated purposes such as bird navigation, photosynthesis, and our sense of smell, proving that quantum effects DO in fact "bubble up" to our macroscopic domain and CAN be an important aspect of biological processes, so why not also consciousness itself? Do not underestimate what the DNA molecule is capable of accomplishing, with its extreme complexity, infinite possible variations and millions of years to test out the results! Eventually it stumbles across utilization of quantum effects by various means.

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/qbupdate.htm

You can also Google [quantum bird navigation photosysnthesis] and find a bunch of mainstream articles about these things.

And here's an article about NON-biological effects that have been observed at maccroscopic scales: http://www.livescience.com/17264-quantum-entanglement-macroscopic-diamonds.html

I wonder if quantum mechanics are responsible for any of the effects of psychedelics?

OK sorry, back to MXE. I too tried it at 15mg only to get kind of fuzzy-headed and a little woozy. Sort of pleasant, felt VERY hung-over next day, but the following 3-4 days after that felt like I was on an antidepressant. I've been told (earlier in this thread I think) that around 25-40mg it changes character and gets alot more overtly psychedelic. Haven't tried that yet though.
 
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its a different beast at all doses, can dramatically change like stepping off a cliff, crazy wild stuff thats why i always take it on benzos, smoothens out the progression. found it to be pretty shite on low doses, can sometimes make me kinda anti euphoric
 
its a different beast at all doses, can dramatically change like stepping off a cliff

Fascinating. That would appear to describe the same phenomenon that we see with DXM: "plateaus" in the dose-response curve. You up the dose gently, the high rises gently. You up the dose gently, the high rises gently. You up the dose gently, and all of a sudden POP you're in another dimension!
 
So I haven't ever tried MXE. I have extensive psychedelic experiance but no dissociation experience. I hear plugged MXE is a good ROA (and I usually plug everything anyways). What would be a good dosage? I was thinking 15-20mg, but I am not sure. I'm on the heavy side
 
With no tolerance, 15-20mg plugged will result in a pretty strong buzz, but it will be a good start-dose.
 
I've said it before. MXE and meditation is good. Not having a plan with a high dose of MXE can result in a confusing state of mind

Intentions, people
 
yeah i dont find it that euphoric, but for some reason if i take valium first it makes me feel so euphorically noddy and good, they seem to compliment each other very well

You don't find Mx euphoric? Since when? You've said so many times that it's given you some of the most euphoric experiences you've ever had! Or did tolerance finally catch up with you?

Just as I said I would, I've had a 3 month+ break as my tolerance had shot up, it's been hard but I've just ordered a gram so I'm really excited for midweek :D

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I'd just like to say: Anyone saying that they are not getting anything from their Methoxetamine, you are absolutely getting cut/bunk stuff. I promise you. It's one of the most powerful substances I've ever consumed
 
A few notes from yesterday's trip log entry, written while under the influence of (what was sold to me as) methoxetamine, at various dosages:


@ ~20mg, titrated over 1 hour
the "stoning fog" thickens noticeably. it's as if i've smoked a bit of cannabis, but the cannabis high has been stripped of any meaningful perspective shift, or aesthetic enhancement, or anxiety, or confusion, and all that is left is the indescribable sensation of being stoned.

@ ~30mg, titrated over 1:20
it appears that something has been taken away from my cognition. i can't pinpoint it precisely, but it relates in some way to spatial awareness. my best guess is that i'm beginning to lose a firm sense of where my physical body resides in three-dimensional space. rather than existing somewhere in particular, i simply exist at the center of everything. there's no need to describe where i am, because nothing exists where i am not. i encompass the entirety of my own little universe. walking isn't really a means of transportation, it's just a means of changing scenery.

@ ~40mg, titrated over 2:45
definite music enhancement is noted. music seems slowed down and spread out, so that all of its subtle details are more easily differentiated. it is almost as if the resolution, as it were, of my hearing has been increased. methoxetamine is to hearing as the magnifying glass is to vision. this is a distinct property of LSD as well.

@ ~45mg, titrated over 4:00
between now and the last entry, i had a very engaging and fascinating philosophical discussion with a friend over AIM, while listening to Atlas Sound's Parallax. it was a very self-consistent experience, in that the music somehow perfectly complemented the discussion. it was all very beautiful and lucid.
 
@Bone14 : I think that your 'problem' is that you aren't letting the MXE take control. I find that many people who take disso's, especially those new to the high, don't let themselves become fully immersed in the substance. By this I don't mean take 120mg and pray for a hole, no quite the contrary. Instead I believe that one should, could and can 'train' themselves to have an open mind. I used to never feel any of the euphoria or psychedelia just like you said you aren't feeling it but after a good while of usage and 'un-entanglement' as I'd like to call it, I am finally able to have a full psychedelic trip with under 100mg (I have a tolerance). I don't even need to take a big ass hit in one I usually do 40mg insuff, then bump up 20mg after 30 min or so and am usually in a trip if not I'll just bump another 20mg.

'Un-entanglement'? That just a word I made up for MXE n Disso's. I believe that your conscious and mind is so attached to how you see things in the physical world / reality that you don't allow yourself to become fully dissociated (sub-consciously) which is what leads to the psychedelic trips. Instead I'm sure you're probably experiencing what I first experienced with MXE which is just a bunch of fucked-up-ness distorted visuals, and pretty much just a really strong 'drunk' feeling. I'm actually experimenting on a 'recipe' or a way to open up an individuals mind via MXE so they may experience enlightenment themselves. There's many books and videos that can help with that. I'm currently reading 'The God Effect' which goes in-depth into the history of physics, quantum mechanics and quantum entanglement. If you're not into reading then look up videos such as "Down the Rabbit Hole" or Through the Wormhole series. If you find it hard to actually sit there and pay attention, try a 'wake-up-call'. A 'wake-up-call' as I like to call it is just learning about shit that strongly goes against what you first perceived the world to be. One example I'll give out is if you're strongly attached to the thought that haji's blew up the trade centers then watch the evidence from ae911truth. Truth, conspiracy, it doesn't matter at the moment, its just a tool to focus your attention so don't take this thread off-topic please.

Btw, I've been thinking that MXE puts you in a meditative state of mind... perhaps that's why everyone is experience this extreme sense of euphoria? If you pay attention on "Down the Rabbit Hole" they talk about this spiritual network spreading across the world that you can tap into via meditation... or maybe even MXE? If you watch the video bordering on a MXE hole, you'll also notice that they are just repeating the same thing over and over, my assumption is that they do that to get the thoughts implanted in your brain. But if you see it in a hole you can actually see them doing it because they actually tell you that they are doing it... It's funny how the video makes more sense while on MXE then when sober... and wtf is a "Grey-market" substance release? Does anyone know for sure where MXE came from because I keep getting this feeling that top scientists are behind it all... maybe I'm just going insane... or maybe I'm going insanely sane.... =x dun dun dunnnn

Edit: Oh and like my post on the MXE + Combinations thread, I found that AM-2201 is a good cannibanoid choice since it seems to have psychedelic properties (at least for me and my friends it does). That should deff be able to jump-start you up into a psychedelic hole if regular herb doesn't do the trick. Be careful though since its... strong.

Edit again: I should also mention 'Medication Madness' as one of those wake-up-calls. Down the Rabbit Hole also hints to this during one of the scene's when the crazy chick tells the emo chick to change her anxiety pills...
 
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I had my first amazing MXE experience last night. There was a point were I thought I had died and could feel myself rising out of my body, during this it was like I was travelling through some of my memory's I have had with the people I was with. The CEV's were very interesting they were darker than I expected mainly black, brown and grey and with some occasional bursts of colour. I think the music was a big help to my trip we was listing to mainly tool and pusifer. the music seems to control the direction the trip went in.
 
Yes music is a good control for your trip. Especially if you're going to experience extreme ego-death (Where you think you're actually dieing in the physical world instead of it just being a trip).
 
music is very important on MXE, seems to guide the trip, can get so unbelievably deep into music on it. literally takes you on a journey
 
Alreet, simple question without mentioning specific vendors.

A few months back I had some real nice MXE. A very soft powder, slightly yellow. Definitely uplifting and full of love. Bought from authorised vendor.

Just after the price drop I got some from same vendor, this time a fine crystal, whiter in colour. Effects were very similar but far less enjoyable, no uplift or love this time.

So my question is, is this the new type everywhere or just a rogue batch? Is the older type still available?
 
You don't find Mx euphoric? Since when? You've said so many times that it's given you some of the most euphoric experiences you've ever had!

good point, although its a different kind of "euphoria", more like a feeling of perfection or something than pushy euphoric feelings, but i dunno. confusing stuff. its hard to describe MXE just like its impossible to describe DMT etc
 
Yes music is a good control for your trip. Especially if you're going to experience extreme ego-death (Where you think you're actually dieing in the physical world instead of it just being a trip).

And very easy to experience too. All you have to do is forget to mix the tracks together in media player and as the track you're tripping to fades slowly away to nothing the universe . . . just . . . ends . . . . . . Hate it when that happens! ;)
 
Alreet, simple question without mentioning specific vendors.

A few months back I had some real nice MXE. A very soft powder, slightly yellow. Definitely uplifting and full of love. Bought from authorised vendor.

Just after the price drop I got some from same vendor, this time a fine crystal, whiter in colour. Effects were very similar but far less enjoyable, no uplift or love this time.

So my question is, is this the new type everywhere or just a rogue batch? Is the older type still available?

Are you talking *snip no vendor discussion permitted, at all* I hope not, as I've just ordered a gram with them...

I understand this post may be grey area with the rules

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Yes Dan, I get what you mean. Methoxetamine euphoria is completely different to Mephedrone euphoria, for example
 
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