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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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crOOk said:
Well no matter what is, the stuff makes you batshit-crazy it seems. I'm bipolar anyway and was pretty careful with the stuff (in relation to my pcp and ketamine binges), only dosed it three times: one ridiculously high dosage of 105mg rectal, two lower ones around 40mg sublingual. Even after those three doses I am experiencing a prolonged episode of burts of mania, to the dismay of the people around me I suppose. It might just be coincidence, but with ketamine and pcp the mania seems to come with a higher intensity at first, but subsides very evenly. This time it's like I caused some massive up-and-down fluctuations for over a week, it practically destabilized me even more. I have no idea if this could just be attributed to other circumstances, but knowing myself very well this is what I noticed after using. I do have to say that the abuse potential subjectively felt a lot lower than that of pcp btw, that is the fiending habit forming properties.

I recently found out that there seems to be a local (Hamburg, Germany) scene of people abusing the shit out of ketamine. Up until then I had only met single people who enjoyed it independently from one another, but on the weekend I actually met a group of 5 loosely connected people who were heavily into abusing dissociatives, all of them have been treated for schizophrenia at least once in their lives and all of them living extremely unstable lives (irregular sleeping patterns, frequently changing sexual relationships, irregular food intake, poly-drug abuse). From what I was told this "group" stretched out far beyonf those 5 people wth everyone sharing one common interest: Dissociatives. I wonder if this is a common occurence with Ketamine having become so popular...
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I always knew and had great sources for ketamine... but never got THAT into it... but shortly after running across mxe I've "found" a shitload of hardcore dissociative users... and become one myself...

I've always liked ketamine but when I found mxe I thought "this is like k but better"... now I'm thinking I like k better...

Mxe seems a lot less predictable than k... which I think I liked at first because it kept things super interesting even when I took it all the time... but after a while it is exhausting and schitzy feeling....
 
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I can't believe it's taken me so long to get round to trying this. I was apprehensive, for many reasons, but I finally took the plunge. I took a 26mg capsule orally. I consider myself a moderately experienced astral traveller. This compound is immediately recognizable to me in the astral headspace it allows one to enter with incredible ease. This stuff reminds me very much of ketamine, and is instantly familiar.

At a 26mg oral dose I am able to get in to multidimentional OOB spaces harkening back to the ontological fluidity of ketamine, but without the annoying amnesia that can accompany the ketamine flight. I am able to maintain the train of intention I need to navigate this space.

I don't know how you guys take this stuff every day though. It takes away the colour and emotional saturation from everything. I feel almost robotic, like I'm commanding myself to perform certain actions like "turn around", "take a piss", "shake it". I also feel really exhausted after the peak, like I've expended an inordinate amount of energy in pure metabolism. I love the 5-HT psychedelics so much more for the colour and living vitality, giving meaning to everything in existence. :)

This is certainly a remarkable compound for deep exploration. I will have to assess this further at some point.
 
Survived Abortion said:
I don't know how you guys take this stuff every day though. It takes away the colour and emotional saturation from everything. I feel almost robotic, like I'm commanding myself to perform certain actions like "turn around", "take a piss", "shake it".
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I find that lower doses have this effect on me... when I take some and feel that way I just take more and then everything becomes vibrant and alive and happy and perfect...

That being said, tolerance is a bitch and it seems like I'm always having to take more not to feel that bland mundane bleakness... but I've also noticed that taking none is almost as good as taking a lot...

This is a very powerful chemical and I think were just scratching the surface of what it is capable of...

I've fucked around with just about every drug there is and none have impressed/intrugued/scared/confused/interested/CHANGED me like methoxetamine...
 
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Flourish said:
50-100mg doses, smoked the "heroin style" or with a bong. Small hits, took me perhaps 5mins to get through the dose.
Product was as-is, like received from the vendor. I used a candle or a typical lighter (as I was on the move).

It was totally new as I didn't end up in the hole once. It seemed as if there were little dissociative effects,
and why I kept doing it was because the warmth, body high or opiate-feel along with the stimulation which both were much much more prominent.

Usually it'd take 100-150mg plugged for the hole, but I had a tolerance as around 400mg (in total) was consumed the day before.
Whole session was ended up with 250mg plugged which took me to the hole, shit hit the fan hard, wasn't that enjoyable but the enlightenment made it more than worth it.

Anyone notice their pupils varying from full blown plates to pin-like small? There seemed to be a connection when lying down,
the pupils were opiate-like and so was the feeling, and when on the move they were plates as in when stimulated, same goes for the feeling.
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I used to smoke my PCP and the effects were always very different from oral/intranasal pcp. With those methods, I'd take a tad too much and be of no use for a few hours and couldn't focus anything with both eyes simultaneously for a much longer time. I didn't even enjoy pcp at first (despite loving K) because it didn't allow me to chill. When smoking it though I could just eyeball and sprinkle more into my bowl, I just felt a more pleasant body-buzz, less dizzy, less crazy, calming in fact. After a certain amount though I would doze off into a dissociated state and in the morning I'd wake up a total maniac with a massive boner, ready to fuck everything that would stand in my way. Like superman on crack is what I always said. Never again have I used any other roa for pcp after my first try of smoking the stuff.
 
Chemically Insane said:
I've fucked around with just about every drug there is and none have impressed/intrugued/scared/confused/interested/CHANGED me like methoxetamine...
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Tell me about it. I had about 40mg 45 minutes ago and my pupils are huge, wtf? I've never had this effect before. This drug is like everything rolled into one, you never know what it's going to do!
 
I love Mx too much. And currently we're having some sort of record breaking autumn heatwave in the UK, it's so amazing sitting out in the blistering temperatures on this stuff with some booze :)
 
I notice that altitude immensely effects the mxe experience for me.... up in the mountains at high altitude it makes me feel like a supervisor... when I take it at sea level it makes me feel like a worker...

When I visit my friends up in the mountains and take it everything is fluffy and floaty

On the drive back down the hill things get more leathery and asphalty...

When I go visit my friends on the coast and take mxe I feel slimy and wet and sticky...

Also up in the mountains everything feels difficult yet satisfying... like hiking up a mountain...

And when I go for a hike on the coast it seems super easy and I can go forever but its boring....
 
crOOk said:
I used to smoke my PCP and the effects were always very different from oral/intranasal pcp. With those methods, I'd take a tad too much and be of no use for a few hours and couldn't focus anything with both eyes simultaneously for a much longer time. I didn't even enjoy pcp at first (despite loving K) because it didn't allow me to chill. When smoking it though I could just eyeball and sprinkle more into my bowl, I just felt a more pleasant body-buzz, less dizzy, less crazy, calming in fact. After a certain amount though I would doze off into a dissociated state and in the morning I'd wake up a total maniac with a massive boner, ready to fuck everything that would stand in my way. Like superman on crack is what I always said. Never again have I used any other roa for pcp after my first try of smoking the stuff.
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Geniessemittel,no? practising my Deutche here....don't think I spelled what I meant right sorry...

I keep my MXE only to weekends....don't want no tolerance issues...seems to "special" for everyday mundane uses....

drug laws are anticonstitutional and unconstitutional, when they wrote up the constitution drugs was not an issue(George Washington grew hemp and poppies) don't put your fears on me and I won't put mine on you....
 
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Chemically Insane said:
I notice that altitude immensely effects the mxe experience for me.... up in the mountains at high altitude it makes me feel like a supervisor... when I take it at sea level it makes me feel like a worker...

When I visit my friends up in the mountains and take it everything is fluffy and floaty

On the drive back down the hill things get more leathery and asphalty...

When I go visit my friends on the coast and take mxe I feel slimy and wet and sticky...

Also up in the mountains everything feels difficult yet satisfying... like hiking up a mountain...

And when I go for a hike on the coast it seems super easy and I can go forever but its boring....
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Woah, that is hell of a good methafore.
 
the effects are starting to come on. as i close my eyes, i can visualize a bright sun-like object that sends me warmth. i feel as if i was in the caribbean in the middle of july. now, my body is starting to get numb as hell. my movements are sluggish and robotic, but i feel like liquid when i start to dance. music seems more appealing than before. each note sends me a new message that reverberates throughout my whole body delivering waves of euphoria and warmth to all my exterior limbs. my body and soul latch onto maynard james keenan's voice and fuse into one. whenever i sit at my computer and close my eyes on DXM or MXE, i see two eyes starring back at me. the eyes are almost inhuman, like foxes' eyes. weird.
 
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Did roughly 200mg over the course of 4 hours after taking a 4-5 day break. I got incredibly strong physical shakes (not literally, just that vibrating feeling). was very enjoyable. I found the feeling both grounding and dissociating.

I think it's odd that I've such a high tolerance (even when i first started using it). I'm incredibly functional at 50-80mg level with no tolerance. I can talk fine and walk relatively fine. Once i get past the 110-120mg+ level with no tolerance is when i start knocking shit down, stumbling around, and fumbling with speaking. I wonder why this is...

... though i do have a psychological disorder which causes me to dissociate as a defense mechanism during situations that cause anxiety (which is on a daily basis).

I recently found my sweet spot, 160mg with no tolerance nasal ROA. Pure bliss, with 5mg valium added it helps ease some of the confusion and mania (which i don't find pleasant, but can easily manage if necessary).

This makes me reconsider PCP as a viable DOC, the stigma surrounding the compound is seeming more and more surreal. However, the horror stories of friends who have gone psychotic from 4-MeO-PCP make me hesitant about testing the PCP analogues...
 
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I think plain PCP analogs are doomed due to the incredible lipophilicity of a shielded nitrogen. Unless you like 10h+ half lives.
 
Cface said:
However, the horror stories of friends who have gone psychotic from 4-MeO-PCP make me hesitant about testing the PCP analogues...
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Any chance you could expand on this? What happened? I too was interested in the PCP analogues, but know relatively little about them.
 
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