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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

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You should take antioxidants daily no matter what.

I have been pickling myself in them ever since I read Pearson & Shaw's "Life Extension a Practical Scientific Approach" when I was 18, and people are astounded when I tell them my chronological age. Antioxidants have potent disease and aging preventative properties and supplements are the only practical way to get enough to really have that impact.

Plus they help protect your brain, heart and arteries from the side effects of many highs.

Nice to see someone else from the days of "Life Extension:a Practical Scientific Approach", I too liked this book....
Wonder how Hydergine would interact w/MXE and help with recuperation of cognitive functions? Hydergine has long gone less popular with the nootropic crowd but it still has it's uses.....
 
yeah,

so yesterday I took 15mgs sublingually and kept it there for about 15 mins. the results were great. I felt stimulated and happy for about 4.5 hours, then went to bed and had no problems falling asleep. Today I'm happy and relaxed. I really think that MXE in low doses is a GREAT thing (not that I don't like higher doses trips ;) .

What do you think is the stimulation/euphoria | dissociation threshhold ? 30mgs?

(for a person with no to low tolerance)

peace
 
MXE continues to amaze me. I've been experimenting with different states of mind/meditating with small doses (~15-20mg plugged) MXE to help mold myself into a less depressing, more positive person (I'm a bit of a buddhist, I believe happiness is a state of mind not necessarily affected by external matters) and I literally feel like a brand new person. I think small doses of MXE helps you focus really well and happiness is all about where you put your mind. Right now I'm putting all of my focus into my body, imagining myself as a newborn child born into this huge playground we call the world experiencing everything for the first time, feeling each sensation like it was the first time I've ever felt anything. I think this is going to do wonders for my long-term health, considering before experimenting with drugs I was an extremely negative person, I felt literally dead all the time and had thoughts of suicide a lot. All I have to do is practice holding this state of mind. :) I really think that, in the right hands, with the right state of mind, this "medication" can help solve depression in the long-term by reshaping yourself into a new person.
 
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MXE continues to amaze me. I've been experimenting with different states of mind/meditating with small doses (~15-20mg plugged) MXE to help mold myself into a less depressing, more positive person (I'm a bit of a buddhist, I believe happiness is a state of mind not necessarily affected by external matters) and I literally feel like a brand new person. I think small doses of MXE helps you focus really well and happiness is all about where you put your mind. Right now I'm putting all of my focus into my body, imagining myself as a newborn child born into this huge playground we call the world experiencing everything for the first time, feeling each sensation like it was the first time I've ever felt anything. I think this is going to do wonders for my long-term health, considering before experimenting with drugs I was an extremely negative person, I felt literally dead all the time and had thoughts of suicide a lot. All I have to do is practice holding this state of mind. :) I really think that, in the right hands, with the right state of mind, this "medication" can help solve depression in the long-term by reshaping yourself into a new person.

You know, I'm not sure that this is the best way to view things. I am not too familiar with Buddhist thought but I think you may be misinterpeting things. How practically can one's state of mind not be affected by external things? I can only speak from my experience and I once believed the same thing. That I should just be happy and not let things that I thought were trivial influence my state of mind.

But when I did that I found myself extremely depressed and lost and with no idea why. Only when I started examining things in my life more closely and observing my emotional reactions to things in my life that I began to feel more happy, more human. Things that I thought shouldn't affect my happiness often did, and when I took action and changed things that made me unhappy or did things that made me happy my life improved.

Also, I would like to point out the hypocrisy in using MXE (an external substance, and hard drug) to altering your state of mind which you think shouldn't be altered by external forces.

I just sense a lot of what I have been through with your post. MXE is an addictive drug, it's addictive because it makes you feel happy. Try not to fool yourself.
 
You know, I'm not sure that this is the best way to view things. I am not too familiar with Buddhist thought but I think you may be misinterpeting things. How practically can one's state of mind not be affected by external things? I can only speak from my experience and I once believed the same thing. That I should just be happy and not let things that I thought were trivial influence my state of mind.

But when I did that I found myself extremely depressed and lost and with no idea why. Only when I started examining things in my life more closely and observing my emotional reactions to things in my life that I began to feel more happy, more human. Things that I thought shouldn't affect my happiness often did, and when I took action and changed things that made me unhappy or did things that made me happy my life improved.

Also, I would like to point out the hypocrisy in using MXE (an external substance, and hard drug) to altering your state of mind which you think shouldn't be altered by external forces.

I just sense a lot of what I have been through with your post. MXE is an addictive drug, it's addictive because it makes you feel happy. Try not to fool yourself.

I'm not fooling myself, even when completely sober I'm shaping into a more positive person and my subjective reality is becoming more and more beautiful. Maybe it's a completely irrational belief, but belief and self-belief is an extremely strong thing.

Also, I would like to point out the hypocrisy in using MXE (an external substance, and hard drug) to altering your state of mind which you think shouldn't be altered by external forces.
Yeah I understand that, but it's an aid. I understand it's addictive but as someone who was so negative I wanted to die, I figure I have absolutely nothing to lose. I'm just learning to love life.
 
mxe enhances my perception of my muscles and allows me to enjoy my physical therapy sessions a lot more. as a result i think i get a better workout. ~15mg per dose.
 
For people using methoxetamine regularly, how does the prospect of quitting completely seem to you? Is it daunting at all? Personally I haven't used MXE for about a month, my longest break since it arrived in November. It's not always on my mind any more, but from time to time I still wish I had some lying around.


I challenge any user to quit for quitting's sake. It's fucking hard!

I ran out of a gram that lasted me a month of near daily use--and shared with many people--I do and don't miss it. I mean I liked it, but am fine otherwise.
 
Ketamine + mxe was wierd. Cant really explain it, wierd events unfolded & i couldnt stop laughing.
Being downtown los angeles at a 24 hour burger joint at 3am in a 3xl leather bomber jacket, a golf hat and shorts was probably not the best outfit for an extremely skinny guy to be wearing around drunk people but i survived that saw a dog get run over and dealt with that trauma (not my dog but still, head full of ...etamines made it fucked up), thought i was going to die in my sleep but passed out anyways and woke up and was almost convinced it was a dream but theres photographic evidence.

haha sounds like a crazy night man
 
~120mg sublingually led me through an obe reexperiencing memories from earlier that day. also, my macbook slowly changed shape/form as the night went on. began as what looked like a white ipad with a keyboard and slowly changed back into my computer over the next hour. took me forever to figure out what it was. definitely one of the most intense experiences I've had so far
 
Ok, Ever since finding out about this RC Ive wanted to try it because K was my DOC But where im at it costs about $200g IF you can find it.. My vet friend moved :( So looking around for some i stumbled on to Methoxetamine and was Very interest. After a few months of waiting to see others affects i decided to get 2gs and after 1 1/2 weeks i got it off white and sandy. First tried 10mg under tongue to see if any bad affects. None, so I snorted 15mg... Waited 2 hours... no bad affects/ any affects at all(wanted to make sure it wasnt some crazy shit). Being a Fan of IMing K (stuff i got was in sealed vails) I got distilled water and a vial, Put 100mg M with 1ml water, Applied heat until it started boiling ( since then i have boiled about 7gs of it, Boiling doesn't seem to affect it) pulled 10cc (10mgish) and put in my leg... About 5mins latter i started feeling the affects And i must say i was pretty impressed. Not quite as enjoyable as K but for legality and Price Im in love.

I really have not tried it any other way then IM other then the first 2 tests. But even after going through ~5gs (Ive received 7 but sharing is caring =D ) I only have to IM 10-15mgs to start back up. The most I ever take in a shot is 25mg. It is a very powerful/cool RC. I have thought i was gonna die so many times now When i feel like i gonna i just think "Im gonna die... Well i guess Ima eat a french dip first." Or "Im gonna die.. Better take a shower first so my body dont stink". Normally i space out my shots about an hour sometimes 30mins if i didnt get to where i wanted. I try to stay functional during all use.

Im sure i forgot something but i dont know right now. Sorry for the random babble. If anyone would like a full trip report let me know and when i get my next 10gs Ill post one. Should be with in the next week.

Ohhhhh ya Health... It seems pretty safeish for me other then bruised arms and shoulders from IMing. I pretty much do it first thing in morning till last thing at night. But I dont order till a few days after i run out and not having any/waiting for it doesnt really bug me.. I dont really crave it like i have with other things (stims/benzos [even thc at times]) Granted i dont think ive used that much yet. My roommate who i share with has chronic pain that his morphine, oxy, Hydro morphine, and various other pills dont help him nearly as much as this does. BBBBUUUTTTT He goes to the hospital and has blood work/UAs (not for drugs-to test body functions) done once a week AND when we were using this they said his kidneys werent working properly (they didnt say how bad) BUT after 3days without they said that they were almost back to normal SO IT DOES MESS SOMETHING UP
 
Interesting. How much did he use before he got tested? And can you get him to use some more, so we can have it double tested? :)

And yeah, write a trip-report :) I don't think I have read any where IM was used. I'm very interested!
 
Ok, Ever since finding out about this RC Ive wanted to try it because K was my DOC But where im at it costs about $200g IF you can find it.. My vet friend moved :( So looking around for some i stumbled on to Methoxetamine and was Very interest. After a few months of waiting to see others affects i decided to get 2gs and after 1 1/2 weeks i got it off white and sandy. First tried 10mg under tongue to see if any bad affects. None, so I snorted 15mg... Waited 2 hours... no bad affects/ any affects at all(wanted to make sure it wasnt some crazy shit). Being a Fan of IMing K (stuff i got was in sealed vails) I got distilled water and a vial, Put 100mg M with 1ml water, Applied heat until it started boiling ( since then i have boiled about 7gs of it, Boiling doesn't seem to affect it) pulled 10cc (10mgish) and put in my leg... About 5mins latter i started feeling the affects And i must say i was pretty impressed. Not quite as enjoyable as K but for legality and Price Im in love.

I really have not tried it any other way then IM other then the first 2 tests. But even after going through ~5gs (Ive received 7 but sharing is caring =D ) I only have to IM 10-15mgs to start back up. The most I ever take in a shot is 25mg. It is a very powerful/cool RC. I have thought i was gonna die so many times now When i feel like i gonna i just think "Im gonna die... Well i guess Ima eat a french dip first." Or "Im gonna die.. Better take a shower first so my body dont stink". Normally i space out my shots about an hour sometimes 30mins if i didnt get to where i wanted. I try to stay functional during all use.

Im sure i forgot something but i dont know right now. Sorry for the random babble. If anyone would like a full trip report let me know and when i get my next 10gs Ill post one. Should be with in the next week.

Ohhhhh ya Health... It seems pretty safeish for me other then bruised arms and shoulders from IMing. I pretty much do it first thing in morning till last thing at night. But I dont order till a few days after i run out and not having any/waiting for it doesnt really bug me.. I dont really crave it like i have with other things (stims/benzos [even thc at times]) Granted i dont think ive used that much yet. My roommate who i share with has chronic pain that his morphine, oxy, Hydro morphine, and various other pills dont help him nearly as much as this does. BBBBUUUTTTT He goes to the hospital and has blood work/UAs (not for drugs-to test body functions) done once a week AND when we were using this they said his kidneys werent working properly (they didnt say how bad) BUT after 3days without they said that they were almost back to normal SO IT DOES MESS SOMETHING UP

very good info! Even if its not what i want to hear, the truth hurts, but I can handle the truth!
 
Interesting. How much did he use before he got tested? And can you get him to use some more, so we can have it double tested? :)

And yeah, write a trip-report :) I don't think I have read any where IM was used. I'm very interested!

Ummm About a gram in 5-6 days (not 100% on amount we split 2g... Im Sure I took alil more then him). Lol Ya i can get him to take some more, Once my order gets here im sure we will both be. Hopefully it comes in today or tomorrow his next doctor visit is monday. If nothing else we can see if its all the way back to normal. It will be a week and 3 days since he had any if nothing comes in. (please note he prolly had 2gs inbetween last doctors visit and 5/27/11 so that might affect it.)

As for the trip report, You should be able to expect it by tuesdayish, Depending on the us postal system. (and as long as i dont lose a day 8) )
 
does anyone else get the spins or a sickly feeling on the comedown from this stuff? i have been, but i haven't seen anyone else mention it.

i've tried it once by myself, and once with another friend. the first time i plugged 30mg and got some mild spins briefly on the come down. the second time my friend and i snorted about 40mg each and both felt moderate spins and some general malaise for ~2 hours as it was wearing off. i even threw up at one point, though i didn't really have much in the way of normal nausea.

i'm fairly experienced with ketamine, and while i've had and seen sickness induced here and there, particularly when combined with alcohol, it seems to be uncommon. but with 3 trials of MXE that i've been personally involved in and 3 of them involving some degree of ill feeling i'm a little concerned about using it again.
 
Umm that doesnt sound good to me... Have you been drinking water? Just asking cause i feel that way Alittle sometimes during my trips and water seems to help.... But thats normally mid day and have already gone through 100-150mgs and still high, So it sound different to me. IF you do try it again i would recommend water. IM NOT recommending you do. Just a suggestion.

I AM IN NO SHAPE OR FORM A DOCTOR OR MEDICAL SPECAILEST

Edit: I get slight spins. No sickly feeling. and like i said little water (2-3 glass) seems to help me ymmv
 
I can try, But he almost cant get out of bed some days and i hate to see him in pain... But if hes doing good he will prolly not do any.. Today hes doing ok so far it looks good to see if there is permament damage done
 
I'm worried that seriously overdoing it the first time I got hold of this stuff has ruined it for me longer term.

I dropped the tale of my experience in the wrong place, accidentally hijacking someone else's trip report (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=525132&page=3) but the gist of it is that I was silly. I did a bit of reading up beforehand, but not enough. Certainly I should have come across this thread first.

Anyway I made the rookie error of treating it like Ketamine, which I have a very high tolerance to, and ploughing through far more of it than I should have on my first try.

The result was a right mess. I lost it for several hours and only have vague flashback memories to call upon, but I do know that I had clearly gotten very sketchy and I was so out of my mind that I was worrying strangers.

Anyway in that session I demolished approximately 700mg up my nose, in various doses. And yes I am well aware that this is totally stupid, now. It was utterly foolish and I deeply regret not having done my research better beforehand so as to have been better prepared. I think my biggest failing was underestimating the amount of time it took to for this stuff to really kick in, and so I massively overdosed because I wasn't sensible enough to realise much of the effects were yet to come.

So yes MASSIVE TOOL, and I fully expect tutting and frowny faces at my raucous actions ruining it for everyone else etc. HOWEVER I do want to know whether my stupidity has cost me enjoyment of this chem now.

It is now four days since my first time on MXE and having spent more time reading up and researching I felt like I really should have given this more respect because it sounds SO good (and elements of my hazy memories of the first time do strike a K-hole like chord which makes me think there is enjoyment to be had). So I decided to give it another shot, just with more sensible dosing this time. And here I am.

I did 30mg, waited an hour, did another 30mg and did a further 30mg an hour after that. That was about half an hour ago now.

So I'm feeling the tingly MDMA-like side of things and am fairly bouncy happy in terms of mood but there's not very much else. My balance is a bit off but not uncomfortably so and otherwise I'm just a little warm and fuzzy. I certainly don't feel bad and it's not unpleasant like the horrible horrible way I felt the day after my dangerous 700mg binge, but I don't feel anywhere near the kind of trippy space I'd like to be in.

My concern is that by going far too over the top the first time, have I now just shocked my body into a super high tolerance, or is it just too soon to tell?

I've got Tron Legacy queued up and ready to play so I'm gonna sit down and check that out, in the hope that I'll notice myself enjoying it more as an effect of the MXE, but I can't help feeling that having gotten through 90mg in three hours I should be more slippy messy and spacey.

Maybe the movie will entice the chem into having some fun with my body again.
 
Well that was shit.

Tron Legacy was rubbish and I still just feel a little cloudy.

Is there any point in doing more MXE? Have I just buggered my body up so bad with it that it's now almost immune to the fun effects?
 
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