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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

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VandiLLisM said:
has brain damage from oxidation been proven? should i take anti oxidants if im using daily
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Where do you get the idea that methoxetamine causes brain damage from oxidation? Not saying you're wrong (or right), just there's no mention of it in this thread.
 
Any ideas how MXE would trigger in a D&A urine sample Im geussing with .......etamine on the end its gonna glow positive ??
 
thikal said:
I didn't read the all thread, but is piracetam block methoxetamine trip?
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I feel that it partly blocks the dissociative effects, but not the stimulating. I've only tried it in the end of the trip, so i could be wrong since the effects could have faded by themself, but i really don't think so. But i don't think you can stop a 150 mg trip with a few nootropils. :)
 
kpr said:
Any ideas how MXE would trigger in a D&A urine sample Im geussing with .......etamine on the end its gonna glow positive ??
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Someone on a Swedish forum ordered some sort of urine tests för ketamine, and he claimed they were positive for ket after a MXE-night. That's all i know.
 
It seems there's a diversity of experience accumulating here. Now that I've mostly caught up:

Tripping out on some k (and now mxe by preference) in the pitch dark with good music had been my idea of a fun time, for a while. But due to circumstances with my living arrangements combined with the certainty that once dosed, I will not stop till I'm out, this became less possible. Tripping in the day grew on me. Before it used to be like, just binged on k all night and coming down, the sun is shining and everything feels quite good and seems high-contrast.

I believe whatever mental traps one has prior to using mxe, will be amplified and remain the same unless some conscious control is exercised. From this perspective, an addictive personality is already inclined to not show some discipline, and I've found I go in whatever direction I damn well feel like. Back 8 pages ago someone was lamenting about how their days-long binge was turning schizo on them. While ket and PCP have "been a model for schizophrenia," this has got to vary to degrees. Even after a 6-some-gram weeklong bender, though I certainly was not a model "sane" person, I never once saw/heard things which were not there. Actually, this has never been the case for drugs save anticholinergics (eek!).

I dunno though, maybe my insanity is plotting and concealing itself from me :o

As for why we haven't seen more news regarding mxe mishaps- While I've done stupid shit on other drugs, it seems my good judgement is at least somewhat present enough not to try stairs or driving when too impaired. And while I've taken this material too far, in retrospect at the time I had sense enough to be doing the largest amount possible without wasting the experience by killing myself.

Before I put up another wall of text (sorry) I'd add, now that I've been clean from mxe for a few weeks, I am starting to recognize the areas of personality which mxe helped me amplify. And now that I'm not high, I don't always like what I see. I think dissociatives have the potential to make ego issues worse, and I see this reading this thread. So, beware.
 
VandiLLisM said:
has brain damage from oxidation been proven? should i take anti oxidants if im using daily
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You should take antioxidants daily no matter what.

I have been pickling myself in them ever since I read Pearson & Shaw's "Life Extension a Practical Scientific Approach" when I was 18, and people are astounded when I tell them my chronological age. Antioxidants have potent disease and aging preventative properties and supplements are the only practical way to get enough to really have that impact.

Plus they help protect your brain, heart and arteries from the side effects of many highs.
 
knockando said:
Where do you get the idea that methoxetamine causes brain damage from oxidation? Not saying you're wrong (or right), just there's no mention of it in this thread.
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I believe the idea comes from the recent study on ketamine suggesting just that.

It may not be in this thread, but it's definitely in the previous one...
 
i have heard people say mxe is garbage and some say its better than K. i get s isomer k which i would think would be closer to mxe is its effects but obviously not last nearly as long.

my intentions with ketamine are for treating depression, anxiety, and keeping my abstinence from heroin(been 2 yrs and i dont ever want to go back to it).

ive heard mxe has theraputic value but the fact it has not been studied as well as ketamine makes me think maybe i should just stick with k. thoughts?

ps, i know its a HELL of a lot cheaper and possibly easier to get....
 
What in the world is happening? I've used methoxetamine countless times with doses up to 60 mg, but now I'm having the most euphoric experience with this substance on 18 mg snorted...8o I have never felt especially euphoric with mxe before, now it's almost overwhelming. Gosh it feels absurdly good right now. Impossible to explain how good I feel.

Edit: Just waves and waves of euphoria. I usually feel mxe is kind of cold, disconnecting and weird. Not it's warm, fuzzy, loving and gentle. A totally new side to the drug for me.
 
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VandiLLisM said:
has brain damage from oxidation been proven? should i take anti oxidants if im using daily
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I would also like to hear more about possible oxidation. As a precaution I take alpha lipoic acid and vitamin C (2-3 grams for every "trip") + multivitamins, magnesium, omega-3 and melatonine before sleep. On the other hand I almost always take these when I take any drugs. Not just methoxetamine.
 
Any geuss how long Mxe would be traceable in urine test..
I got tested last night?
I know its not exact science every body is different and all that
 
Cyanoide said:
What in the world is happening? I've used methoxetamine countless times with doses up to 60 mg, but now I'm having the most euphoric experience with this substance on 18 mg snorted...8o I have never felt especially euphoric with mxe before, now it's almost overwhelming. Gosh it feels absurdly good right now. Impossible to explain how good I feel.

Edit: Just waves and waves of euphoria. I usually feel mxe is kind of cold, disconnecting and weird. Not it's warm, fuzzy, loving and gentle. A totally new side to the drug for me.
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I only found out recently how much mxe can do in sub-20mg doses; i'd only done doses above 30 before, but when i tried ~15mg to have a mellow night i was surprised how much it did: i was expecting a subtle mood lift, but it felt like a decent stimulant hit (with only the merest hint of dissociation) and had an effect pretty much the same length as higher doses (a bit shorter) - easily enough to keep me going for a night out in a pub.

It seems like the stimulation and some euphoria are properly active at doses which are too small to give noticeable dissociation (this is such a versatile substance).

As for oxidation damage with k [speculation alert] - i've not seen the research, but i'd guess that judging by how long k has been used by people without huge numbers of brain damaged casualties apparent (afaik), that it's not a massive risk for the casual to medium user. How that translates to mxe i don't know - As with all things, moderation...
 
Anyone notice it seems to stop cravings/need to do other drugs? Like go over a week without any when that's not too common for you. Seems like a valuable tool against addiction or for when you can't get hold of drugs (more drugs in general than one you're addicted to).
 
oSpherical said:
It's such a difficult drug to understand and comprehend, with every trip having a different flavour to it - it can offer all the comfort in the world or be cold and unwelcoming.

Am I alone in experiencing this?
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To be honest, I was pretty disappointed by the emotional aspect of it. It wasn't euphoric as the drugs I like to take, though seems to have abilities to block depression and bring you to baseline, though it can seem like a sad little world too, but no strong negative feelings and nothing really bothers you.

I haven't tried Ketamine and imagine this must be much more wonderful and euphoric than how this works on me. It can bring me to a high level of dissociation, but this is no blissful state, more confusing, like not knowing where I am and feeling disconnected from everything like trying to read on a computer.

Same thing with watching TV, you can get to dissociated to feel any connection with what was going on or understand it. Everything can look very HD (too much) and watching some movies gave me a feeling I was watching a "fake" computer animated version of it. Weird. Then again in more moderate doses it can be great for TV viewing as it really sucks you in (like you dissoicate "into" the TV) and you can sit happily for hours watching program after program. I found this a reliable way to pass the time.

I prefer combinining it with Gabapentin. Seems like it would be safe, and it adds more of a an Euphoric quality for me and makes it much more worth it. I find it to be quite bland alone, to be honest, and it's like taking more only adds to the dissociation. Maybe I just don't respond that emotionally to this (like benzos).
 
Ninae said:
To be honest, I was pretty disappointed by the emotional aspect of it. It wasn't euphoric as the drugs I like to take, though seems to have abilities to block depression and bring you to baseline, though it can seem like a sad little world too, but no strong negative feelings and nothing really bothers you.

I haven't tried Ketamine and imagine this must be much more wonderful and euphoric than how this works on me. It can bring me to a high level of dissociation, but this is no blissful state, more confusing, like not knowing where I am and feeling disconnected from everything like trying to read on a computer.

Same thing with watching TV, you can get to dissociated to feel any connection with what was going on or understand it. Everything can look very HD (too much) and watching some movies gave me a feeling I was watching a "fake" computer animated version of it. Weird. Then again in more moderate doses it can be great for TV viewing as it really sucks you in (like you dissoicate "into" the TV) and you can sit happily for hours watching program after program. I found this a reliable way to pass the time.

I prefer combinining it with Gabapentin. Seems like it would be safe, and it adds more of a an Euphoric quality for me and makes it much more worth it. I find it to be quite bland alone, to be honest, and it's like taking more only adds to the dissociation. Maybe I just don't respond that emotionally to this (like benzos).
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that was how i felt the first couple times I tried it too, but the last time it was a mindblowingly blissful experience. I think the proper setting and attitude has everything to do with how the trip goes. I laid in bed in a dark room with some good trip music and it was great.

1 question: how much tolerance would i develop if i take this once a week?
 
Ketamine + mxe was wierd. Cant really explain it, wierd events unfolded & i couldnt stop laughing.
Being downtown los angeles at a 24 hour burger joint at 3am in a 3xl leather bomber jacket, a golf hat and shorts was probably not the best outfit for an extremely skinny guy to be wearing around drunk people but i survived that saw a dog get run over and dealt with that trauma (not my dog but still, head full of ...etamines made it fucked up), thought i was going to die in my sleep but passed out anyways and woke up and was almost convinced it was a dream but theres photographic evidence.
 
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