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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 17 - South-Kansas is going bye-bye

ecstacylover said:
Does anyone else feel that MXE permanently changed their diet for the better? My GF and I have both noticed this as a long-lasting effect of MXE. I consume almost no processed foods or meat anymore and I get lots of fruits, vegetables. I used to always get really conscious of how poor my everyday diet was during MXE sessions and these thoughts trickled over into everyday life, now I can't eat any other way.
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When I was taking ephenidine in the summer quite a lot I felt that it completely altered my approach to food, for the better. It made me very concerned with eating predominantly for health and flavour, as opposed to greed/amount/junk food. Kept the good (food) habit up for a few months as well, but slipped during a benzo withdrawal.

It always amazes me that this country was flooded with MXE back in 2011~, and that I never really had any interest in experimenting.

To me it was just the bogeyman which replaced our ketamine supply for a while, and induced a couple of unexpected and sketchy holes resulting from sniffing huge lines at parties. I can still remember about 8 people escorting me and my friend back from a party. People always describe it as kind of like a care in the community type thing, trying to escort two big man-children along bustling streets whilst we repeatedly made strange gestures and stumbled around asking what the fuck was going on. =D
 
Help?!?! said:
It's not even illegal everywhere. Id have to guess it will. It became hugely popular during it's reign. Many people liked it just as much as ketamine if not more, myself included. Like said a million times, if someone could just produce a good amount it would probably make a come back.
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Not sure how international law works but it's been added to the list of illegal drugs controlled under the UN 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances. I'm not sure if this makes it automatically illegal in every country that has signed that treaty or does it mean that individual countries have to ban it themselves and the list is merely a suggestion.

Anyway what's more interesting to me is that nobody has tried making either 3-meo-2'oxo-pcpr (aka mxe with the ethyl chain extended to propyl) or 3-ho-2'oxo-pce (the methoxy changed to a hydroxy). 3-meo-pcpr is supposed to be very similar to 3-meo-pce only slightly weaker so presumably 3-meo-2'oxo-pcpr should be similar. Same goes for the other one.

I know mxm (aka 3-meo-2'oxo-pcm) was made and quite well received (not sure why it never took off) but it's effects weren't that close to mxe. However the difference between 3-meo-pcm and 3-meo-pce is bigger than the difference between 3-meo-pce and 3-meo-pcpr.
 
I've wondered both those things myself. This thread says it all. Seventeen B&Ds? They would fill up so quickly too. MXE was a clear winner. Everyone I ever gave some too loved it. Even people who were dissociative naive. Sometimes there would be confusion as dissociatives feel very unique from most things. One time during the first MXE voyage of one of my friends, he suddenly looked at me, and asked me "Why do people like this?!?" to which I replied "Because it's awesome and feels great?!?". He was just like "That's true...!".
 
Well I'd like to know who has the power to make a drug like this vanish.
 
MXM was one of my favorites. A lot of people called it "Marshmallow MXE" and never has there been a more apt descriptor of the chem. A Chinese vendor screwed up an MXE order of mine and sent 20g MXM instead, ended up keeping it and falling in love with it. I never holed from it, but it felt like the most opiate-ish qualities of MXE were amped way the fuck up. I would just sit on my couch surfing the web, listening to music and enjoying total blissful euphoria tinged with the slightest halo of mania. I'm not sure why it never became popular.. probably because MXE was still a better chem for most dissociative lovers chasing a good hole. MXM was the ultimate chill out dissociative, and on lighter doses it was perfect for socializing, totally relaxed and in a positive mood but could access vocabulary and thoughts with great ease. Would love to come across this one again.
 
Yes, despite my initial reservations on first trials i have come to love MXE. I rarely take it alone however. I have a reasonable stash as it is obviously rare these days so i prefer to take it with other psychedelics. Either preloading or after a peak it really enhances other substances. For a purely recreational trip, it is great to take beforehand and for a more in depth trip it is a nice reward.

I'm not sure why it has almost completely vanished, but it seems a real loss to the community!
 
The bans in china were pretty devastating to the supply chain and the demand apparently hasn't recovered properly and only would go underground as it is also banned in the EU.
 
Whitefox said:
Yes, despite my initial reservations on first trials i have come to love MXE. I rarely take it alone however. I have a reasonable stash as it is obviously rare these days so i prefer to take it with other psychedelics. Either preloading or after a peak it really enhances other substances. For a purely recreational trip, it is great to take beforehand and for a more in depth trip it is a nice reward.
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Agreed, MXE is one of the best psychedelic enhancers of anything, maybe the best. My preferred way to do it is to take a moderate dose of MXE (25mg, say) orally, an wait until I really feel it, then take the psychedelic. It makes the psychedelic stronger and more immersive, while making the transition from sobriety to psychedelic smoother. Once they combine it mostly just feels like a much fuller/more potent trip on the psychedelic, the MXE doesn't color it too much.
 
Xorkoth said:
Agreed, MXE is one of the best psychedelic enhancers of anything, maybe the best. My preferred way to do it is to take a moderate dose of MXE (25mg, say) orally, an wait until I really feel it, then take the psychedelic. It makes the psychedelic stronger and more immersive, while making the transition from sobriety to psychedelic smoother. Once they combine it mostly just feels like a much fuller/more potent trip on the psychedelic, the MXE doesn't color it too much.
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You say that because probably you didn't tried mixing psychedelics with 2-OxO-PCE :) It potentiates tryptamines and lysergamides to psychedelic levels I didn't knew existed.
 
Methoxetamine had everything it takes to make it as a black market drug. It can be taken oral, nasal, rectal, injected, 20-100 doses a gram, storage stable, there are almost no people who like getting high who don't like a modest dose of it, the ultimate party drug in low doses, a hardcore entheogenic dissociative at high doses, forgiving of even ridiculous overdoses, very popular in its day, liked better than the illicit "original" Ketamine by many, less toxic than Ketamine on abuse. Longer acting than K but way shorter than most dissociatives, people feel so good that even addicts of other drugs ease their regimen while high on it, mentally but not physically addictive, readily bingeable, no hangover on sensible use.

It should reappear. Methoxetamine is the perfect storm of desirable drug effects, just like Ecstasy was. It has everything to make it BIG as an illicit drug.
 
You could be right... I mean, I thought I would never be able to buy methylone, mephedrone or 2C-I again, but they ended reappearing :D
 
Asante said:
Methoxetamine had everything it takes to make it as a black market drug. It can be taken oral, nasal, rectal, injected, 20-100 doses a gram, storage stable, there are almost no people who like getting high who don't like a modest dose of it, the ultimate party drug in low doses, a hardcore entheogenic dissociative at high doses, forgiving of even ridiculous overdoses, very popular in its day, liked better than the illicit "original" Ketamine by many, less toxic than Ketamine on abuse. Longer acting than K but way shorter than most dissociatives, people feel so good that even addicts of other drugs ease their regimen while high on it, mentally but not physically addictive, readily bingeable, no hangover on sensible use.

It should reappear. Methoxetamine is the perfect storm of desirable drug effects, just like Ecstasy was. It has everything to make it BIG as an illicit drug.
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Chemists of the world, please read this. Read this every morning until MXE floods the markets again. The second coming wasn´t Christ, but a molecule
 
we are all waiting for someone somewhere to produce this drug on a massive scale, begging for someone to read this and do so...I fear that these are just pipe dreams though. who would do it? Its not like someone with a meth or mdma super lab could just whip up some mxe....they would need to re-configure everything or buy new equipment just to make the mxe. and the demand is nothing compared to mdma and meth.

ketamine keeps getting made in massive amount because its a legitimate medical drug also so the peeps in india or wherever can just make a ton and move it out the back door whenever they want....mxe is more superior to ketamine though in my opinion, far more superior but has not legit reason to be made

I hoping some lab in china reads this and just decides to make mxe anyways because ppl want it so bad. They could charge cocaine prices for it.

from what i read, they have good labs in china making meth even though its illegal. why not make mxe and see how it sells
 
meth is very popular in China/Asia the next most popular drug is ketamine for the Chinese. So I think they are really just moving on and making ketamine instead it's illegal still but probably sells easier and at a better profit margin.
Vice did a doc on a ketamine village check it out.
 
Methoxetamine is about 2.5X as potent as Ketamine and both cost about the same to produce per gram with the same effort - its superior. I had the unsavory honor of watching a liveleak video of a Chinese girl snorting literally a meter long line of K and subsequently dying. Yes, K is big in China and kids do stoopid stuff everywhere.

Me I have plenty of Methoxetamine experience and experience with pure Esketamine. For me it was no contest, I enjoy MXE far more than I do K and I rather had 0.5gr MXE for that 2 day binge than the 1.5gr of s-K I had.
The K was a letdown to me, far more subtle than MXE, you need so much of it and if you dont inject you have to snort it, which sucks.
I was not impressed.
 
Yeah, I've had some experience with IM/IV ket and even oral MXE feels much more intense and all around satisfying to me. I also like it better.
But I don't think it is ever coming back.
I agree with you when you say it is the perfect "street drug" in many ways, but I think it only ever became relevant as an internet drug, which kind of adds to the mystique behind it. In my area (Big city in southern South America) there are MANY ket-heads, but almost no one in the scene has heard of MXE. The few people I've shared it with preferred it over ketamine, btw. But I think it's just not as "well known" for it to be caught on by the illicit manufacturers. I don't think it's happening anytime soon, unless sometime someone manages to pull a custom synth somewhere.
 
ecstacylover said:
Does anyone else feel that MXE permanently changed their diet for the better? My GF and I have both noticed this as a long-lasting effect of MXE. I consume almost no processed foods or meat anymore and I get lots of fruits, vegetables. I used to always get really conscious of how poor my everyday diet was during MXE sessions and these thoughts trickled over into everyday life, now I can't eat any other way.
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No, but I've noticed that MXE causes people to notice a lot of connections between things that they otherwise wouldn't.
 
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