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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 17 - South-Kansas is going bye-bye

Best wishes to Meowfish from me too, I like your way with words. I'm apparently bi-polar and maybe schizophrenic also, not sure still with the doctor. Myself I haven't had any MXE in a year, continuing experiments with 3-MeO at the moment. I do miss MXE but haven't had a source but I don't mind that, I love 3-MeO from all my heart, even if it does make me a bit nuts sometimes.

Hoping to give a proper read to vortech's book too, have been too "busy" and disoriented lately to read anything.

Stay cool, dissohead brothers and sisters. God bless you.
 
Thanks for the love guys. Sometimes I think about writing a book about my life, mainly the first 18 years of being part of a CREEPY Religion - raised a Jehovah's Witness against my will. Parents told me when I was 7-8 years old, when I asked them about the Future - specifically my own......I remember because even then I was worried about what it would be like being 18 and living on my own, as that was the only way I felt that I would ever be free from their forced beliefs. My Mom told me when I asked her what I would do to take care of myself and get a job by the time I was 18, Her Reply....... "The Apocalypse would've already started Meowfish, all of the bad "Worldy" people who are not Jehovah's Witness's, God will wipe all of them off the Earth by then and we'll get to Live Forever in Paradise on the Earth, don't worry about those things for now, you'll be safe as long as you do as we say". This statement haunted me for years to come.

I'm only making this little post so people Understand a little about where my Views and Thoughts come from. If I took the time to talk about all of the SKETCHY inner working of that Religion, that people outside of it are NOT AT ALL aware of - you guys would be scared as fuck of what these people believe. They're as SCARY as something like ISIS to me - they're THAT Militant about what they believe, they're just non-violent - but they are just as big of Doomsayers, and to me, just as Evil and Dangerous.

I became self aware as age 6, as soon as I started Kindergarten - because I was forced into a Society I knew nothing about. I started to realize then, that I had the right to Question EVERYTHING I was being told and decide for myself. My Parents put a stop to this by telling me if I ever refused to go to Church (Meetings), they would kick me out of the house and I could go be Homeless. I was 11 when they told me this. I tried to research Religion on my own via reading different varieties of books from the Library. I would have to take certain ones and check them out without my Parents finding out because I wasn't allowed to read any Literature that was not made by Jehovah's Witnesses.....This just made me more Angry, more Confused, and more Dedicated to figure out what in the FUCK a Human Being is, and what the FUCK "God" was to everyone else - not just the one sided picture that was being painted for me. I've spent most of my life alone - I was home schooled for grades 10-12, and was not allowed to talk to anyone or befriend anyone who was not of my Religion, being told to the extent that I shouldn't even talk or look at them because they were all evil. The only "Good People" on the Planet, they told me, were Jehovah's Witnesses's, and all those that oppose them would die and are evil when Jesus Returns and the Apocalypse starts.

That fear stayed with me into my early 20's - until I started seriously searching for my OWN SPIRITUALITY via Psychedelic use, and lots of Nuggets to try and dig deeper into the things They had basically forced into my Mind against my will. It got to the point in my early 20's where I would wake up screaming, having panic attacks, thinking that Jehovah was going to strike me with lightning or that the Apocalypse was coming..............This unfortunately has affected my life in ways I can never fix, and is what to this day causes large chunks of my personal issues. I'm still to this day learning BASIC truths about the world around me, that I had NO CLUE about because of how I was raised. I genuinely feel like a good 14-16 years of my life were straight up stolen from me. I was in the Mental Prison that is Religion - ESPECIALLY JW's.

Sorry I've been out of Contact Vortech.........It's been a rough month. I appreciate the acceptance and understanding tho for real, from everyone who's said anything. I've been reading your book bit by bit when I can concentrate long enough to enjoy it - but it's so hard for me to concentrate switching over from a 5 year MXE bender, to nothing for a month, to 3-MeO-PCP.

I do enjoy the 3-MeO, but I need something I can dose daily - and 3-MeO just isn't as versatile to me as MXE was. It's fucking HEAVY on my mind, but soft on my body. It's a little TOO Serontonergic for my daily needs, and even a 2-3 day bender leaves me feeling a little off for nearly 5-7 days. It also gets even DEEPER into the Religious / Spiritual part of my Mind and Being that I start to get terrible Agoraphobia, not really from taking 3-MeO - but more because I see how fucking fucked up and TERRIBLE the Human Race is being to Itself right now. What happened in France, people posting Bible Verses - shit's taking me back in my mind and forcing me to deal with the issues and statements that my Parents and Jehovah's Witness's left me stuck with, parts of who I am that I can't get to because the beliefs were planted so deep - even tho I don't BELIEVE what I was taught, the Fear and Self Doubt they planted in me I was never able to Uproot. That and I talk to other Humans in Person maybe 5 Times a month at best.

To an extent - I'm back to where I started, just in a different way...............I'm in a Prison of my Own Making inside of My Own Mind - not because of Religion, but because of how Evil People have truly been to me throughout my time outside of the Religion. I do anything and everything I can for my "Friends" that I talk to locally and always have since I moved out at 19, but all they do is take my Kindness for Weakness. I've been robbed twice in the past 30-60 days by people who I have helped pay their Rent so their Family didn't get Evicted, for people I bought Groceries for so their 6 year old daughter and Family had Food till their Stamps came.....Helped them finish Painting Jobs he was too inexperienced to finish on his own. The thing that scares me is - My Parents never prepared me for the fact or reality that the World we Live in is not nice, a large chunk of our Population are either just Rats in the Race - Religiously Oriented and only care about "Their People" like my Parents - Or still Animalistic in the Jungle, always SELFISHLY putting themselves first, not caring about the past, present or future - just taking all they can until YOU stop giving, and then they act like you're the dick............

The thing is, FUCK Money - that's not what hurts, it comes and goes - The pain comes from the fact that I'm starting to feel like I need to be a little more evil and selfish JUST so I can make it and take care of myself. I feel like I can't trust another Person, especially Women (No Offense to any Female on here). I've just been abandoned and thrown away by so many people that I cared so deeply about, and who I held the fuck down like a real friend should. As much as I love the Internet and Computers - I HATE Facebook and Social Media. It's just allowed people to choose to be even MORE Cliquey than they were BEFORE Social Media took over. I'm from the 90's, when you went to your boy's house and just talked, listened to music or watched a show. When People were a little more Human. I really don't like the way our Society is going right now - and I'm really sick of being the cliche "nice guy who finishes last". I could go on - but I'll leave it at that. Just some background for those that treat BL like your Family because the people you know in real life don't know how to act anymore. Shit breaks my heart. I always find a way through tho - I just have to keep moving forward and not allow my thoughts to remain Stagnant. Peace to my BL Fam - Meowfish
 
Thanks for the love guys. Sometimes I think about writing a book about my life, mainly the first 18 years of being part of a CREEPY Religion - raised a Jehovah's Witness against my will. Parents told me when I was 7-8 years old, when I asked them about the Future - specifically my own......I remember because even then I was worried about what it would be like being 18 and living on my own, as that was the only way I felt that I would ever be free from their forced beliefs. My Mom told me when I asked her what I would do to take care of myself and get a job by the time I was 18, Her Reply....... "The Apocalypse would've already started Meowfish, all of the bad "Worldy" people who are not Jehovah's Witness's, God will wipe all of them off the Earth by then and we'll get to Live Forever in Paradise on the Earth, don't worry about those things for now, you'll be safe as long as you do as we say". This statement haunted me for years to come.

I'm only making this little post so people Understand a little about where my Views and Thoughts come from. If I took the time to talk about all of the SKETCHY inner working of that Religion, that people outside of it are NOT AT ALL aware of - you guys would be scared as fuck of what these people believe. They're as SCARY as something like ISIS to me - they're THAT Militant about what they believe, they're just non-violent - but they are just as big of Doomsayers, and to me, just as Evil and Dangerous.

I became self aware as age 6, as soon as I started Kindergarten - because I was forced into a Society I knew nothing about. I started to realize then, that I had the right to Question EVERYTHING I was being told and decide for myself. My Parents put a stop to this by telling me if I ever refused to go to Church (Meetings), they would kick me out of the house and I could go be Homeless. I was 11 when they told me this. I tried to research Religion on my own via reading different varieties of books from the Library. I would have to take certain ones and check them out without my Parents finding out because I wasn't allowed to read any Literature that was not made by Jehovah's Witnesses.....This just made me more Angry, more Confused, and more Dedicated to figure out what in the FUCK a Human Being is, and what the FUCK "God" was to everyone else - not just the one sided picture that was being painted for me. I've spent most of my life alone - I was home schooled for grades 10-12, and was not allowed to talk to anyone or befriend anyone who was not of my Religion, being told to the extent that I shouldn't even talk or look at them because they were all evil. The only "Good People" on the Planet, they told me, were Jehovah's Witnesses's, and all those that oppose them would die and are evil when Jesus Returns and the Apocalypse starts.

That fear stayed with me into my early 20's - until I started seriously searching for my OWN SPIRITUALITY via Psychedelic use, and lots of Nuggets to try and dig deeper into the things They had basically forced into my Mind against my will. It got to the point in my early 20's where I would wake up screaming, having panic attacks, thinking that Jehovah was going to strike me with lightning or that the Apocalypse was coming..............This unfortunately has affected my life in ways I can never fix, and is what to this day causes large chunks of my personal issues. I'm still to this day learning BASIC truths about the world around me, that I had NO CLUE about because of how I was raised. I genuinely feel like a good 14-16 years of my life were straight up stolen from me. I was in the Mental Prison that is Religion - ESPECIALLY JW's.

Sorry I've been out of Contact Vortech.........It's been a rough month. I appreciate the acceptance and understanding tho for real, from everyone who's said anything. I've been reading your book bit by bit when I can concentrate long enough to enjoy it - but it's so hard for me to concentrate switching over from a 5 year MXE bender, to nothing for a month, to 3-MeO-PCP.

I do enjoy the 3-MeO, but I need something I can dose daily - and 3-MeO just isn't as versatile to me as MXE was. It's fucking HEAVY on my mind, but soft on my body. It's a little TOO Serontonergic for my daily needs, and even a 2-3 day bender leaves me feeling a little off for nearly 5-7 days. It also gets even DEEPER into the Religious / Spiritual part of my Mind and Being that I start to get terrible Agoraphobia, not really from taking 3-MeO - but more because I see how fucking fucked up and TERRIBLE the Human Race is being to Itself right now. What happened in France, people posting Bible Verses - shit's taking me back in my mind and forcing me to deal with the issues and statements that my Parents and Jehovah's Witness's left me stuck with, parts of who I am that I can't get to because the beliefs were planted so deep - even tho I don't BELIEVE what I was taught, the Fear and Self Doubt they planted in me I was never able to Uproot. That and I talk to other Humans in Person maybe 5 Times a month at best.

To an extent - I'm back to where I started, just in a different way...............I'm in a Prison of my Own Making inside of My Own Mind - not because of Religion, but because of how Evil People have truly been to me throughout my time outside of the Religion. I do anything and everything I can for my "Friends" that I talk to locally and always have since I moved out at 19, but all they do is take my Kindness for Weakness. I've been robbed twice in the past 30-60 days by people who I have helped pay their Rent so their Family didn't get Evicted, for people I bought Groceries for so their 6 year old daughter and Family had Food till their Stamps came.....Helped them finish Painting Jobs he was too inexperienced to finish on his own. The thing that scares me is - My Parents never prepared me for the fact or reality that the World we Live in is not nice, a large chunk of our Population are either just Rats in the Race - Religiously Oriented and only care about "Their People" like my Parents - Or still Animalistic in the Jungle, always SELFISHLY putting themselves first, not caring about the past, present or future - just taking all they can until YOU stop giving, and then they act like you're the dick............

The thing is, FUCK Money - that's not what hurts, it comes and goes - The pain comes from the fact that I'm starting to feel like I need to be a little more evil and selfish JUST so I can make it and take care of myself. I feel like I can't trust another Person, especially Women (No Offense to any Female on here). I've just been abandoned and thrown away by so many people that I cared so deeply about, and who I held the fuck down like a real friend should. As much as I love the Internet and Computers - I HATE Facebook and Social Media. It's just allowed people to choose to be even MORE Cliquey than they were BEFORE Social Media took over. I'm from the 90's, when you went to your boy's house and just talked, listened to music or watched a show. When People were a little more Human. I really don't like the way our Society is going right now - and I'm really sick of being the cliche "nice guy who finishes last". I could go on - but I'll leave it at that. Just some background for those that treat BL like your Family because the people you know in real life don't know how to act anymore. Shit breaks my heart. I always find a way through tho - I just have to keep moving forward and not allow my thoughts to remain Stagnant. Peace to my BL Fam - Meowfish
Dude that shit is fucking Heartbreaking bro! I feel for you! I feel
Exactly the same for religion fuck religion entirely and fuck people who can't understand or use
Empathy and can't let shit go. People need meditate more people need to sing more people need to understand materialistic ideologies are not the paths to happiness but living here and now and loving everyone not just those around you conflict will always be present because that's nature it has to be but humans have forced too much and unnecessary conflict in nature and it's wrong and its fucking diabolical I hope you're okay man. Always i need to
Try mxe I still haven't found a source hahha it sounds dope as fuck! But peace you though brother hope you make it through!
Monk
 
woah meowfish thats pretty fucked up. i didn't mean to insult u or anything. just meant that it kinds of made me think you sound angry or something when u wrote it, which u kind of admitted i guess, manic. im sure that u mean well and im glad you feel get positive experiences from dissociatives. obviously i just hope you know they can be dangerous and can drive someone up the wall without them realizing it.. i read your posts a long time ago and u said how u dont feel theres any side effects except for some bloody urine and spleen removal or something and i was just thinking if that happened to me i would take it pretty seriously
 
I don't suppose there is any information regarding how MXE affects cats.

My cat accidentally ingested small amounts of it last night. After I weight it out, I crush the crystals with the bottom of a lighter. Then, without really thinking, I wipe the little bit of residue from the lighter on my bed. So I left the room and when I came back my cat was sniffing and licking the area. It couldn't have been much MXE. She appeared alert for a while, and was in a very playful mood running around the house. I could sense that she was dissociated. Her pupils dilated as she looked at me, possibly wondering whether or not it was really me. After running around the house a couple of laps, she settled on my lap and slept a bit heavier than usual. But then later in the night she would try to sleep but would wake up and jump off the bed, leaving the room. Restless, it seems.

I feel so terrible for letting this happen :(. I really hope she doesn't suffer any long term effects. I love Clementine more than anything. She seems fine now, nestled in my blankets :).
 
She's probably fine. I worry about the same things with my pet guinea pig and my ball python, I just avoid handling them now if I've been weighing out any drugs, and I make sure to clean up right after so as to not have one of them stumble upon anything when out of their habitats.
 
Re: MXE and cats, they are very sensitive to it. 1mg is enough for effects It's a love/hate relationship I'm pretty sure is their response, or that was my conclusion after the one time I dosed my cat when I was high. To explain further, it is not a 100% enjoyable experience for them, but much like humans, I think they are better off for it in the end having had the experience. Until more is known let's stick to the stuff that grows from the ground, i.e. catnip :)
 
my concern with MXE and cats is that cats have pretty cruddy kidneys compared to humans. but if its a small amount one time it should be okay. would be great if it drank a lot of fluids to help clean the stuff out of its system... however, you can lead a cat to water but you can't make it drink.

milk might be a good idea for it.
 
@pharmakos:
Put the water from a tuna tin in the water for the cat. They love it.
Only water, not the ones with oil.
 
My friend's old cat was in poor shape and obviously about to die. We thought it would be nice of us to let him try MXE before he dies, maybe it would help him deal with his injuries and poor health. We never did it though and would never actually give drugs to any animal.
 
I am not sure how recently this happened but I heard through the grapevine yesterday that MXE is illegal in Florida, and certain people are trying to make it completely banned in the United States? This news saddens me greatly. I have been using MXE as a recreational drug for almost two years now. When I first began using it up until fairly recently I had only taken it for fun. Over the last few months I have battled greatly against two addictions, them being alcohol and benzodiazepines. I never thought that I could get over the hump of never feeling content or satisfied with life again, but I have a found a way and that way is MXE. Don't get me wrong, I have read many stories about the addictive properties that MXE can possess and have even witnessed it first hand, but let me tell you.

I can take 6 mgs and feel completely at peace with myself, a miracle for someone like me who has battled addiction for a long time. Throughout the day I have been dosing myself about 6 mgs four or five times a day. To say it is helping me is an understatement. The best medicine I have ever had, and I have been on many different kinds of anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. I can go to work, accomplish tasks that need to get done outside of work, focus on healthy hobbies, set goals for myself and achieve them, newly inspired dreams, all while taking small doses of MXE throughout the day. I am now worried that at some point some time soon this amazing chemical will be gone forever, and I have never found anything else that even comes close in comparison.

I realize the importance of being able to do these things without the aid of drugs, but right now it is helping me find the way. Finally I can just live in a mindful manner without a constant chip on my shoulder. Sorry for the rant just some random thoughts that I will try to add more to later. Banning something with such potential as this would truly be a crime against humanity imo, but I guess I feel that way about a lot of things.
 
It is great to hear your story Mr Giraffe. I empathize completely with your scenario, for I also used this tool to battle greater demons. More recently it was 3-meo-pcp that gave me the conviction to get off opiates for good. It may be even more effective than MXE because while MXE helped many times temporarily, I felt like it didn't get me to see the big picture so succinctly as my recent experience with 3meo. But maybe it was all just timing. I was ready anyway.

As for the cats, my cat lived to a healthy 20 years old, and he drank lactose-free milk nearly every day of the week. In fact he would have a fit if we ever ran out for more than a day. That was actually how I administered the MXE the one time, in his milk, to disguise the taste. Cats are very picky about their water. We had a machine that constantly circulated water in his bowl through a water fountain, and he drank from it all the time. Cats like flowing water. This contributed to his kidneys lasting so long.
I know it is a moral grey area to dose a cat on anything psychoactive because of the lack of consent, and I will agree. Stick to catnip and let them sniff it willingly. However, when a cat is at end-stage life, it may be akin to giving mushrooms to cancer patients to help then cope with their final days. I know my cat handled it like a champ. To be honest, even at 18 years old when I gave him that dose, for a while after that experiment I noticed a spark in his eyes and energy that had previously been dulled. I'm not encouraging anyone to repeat my experiment. Just putting it out there so that maybe qualified scientists may look into it as a treatment for cats who have a deficiency of life force (depression, recurrent illness etc).

I feel cats are more similar to humans than many people will admit.
 
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I totally agree with you Giraffe. Mxe also has also completely regenerated my life. I had already giving up the ghost, believed i would spend the rest of my life from my small apartment cage to my work office cage, doing a job i hated.

I was wrong. MXE showed me i was wrong. Now i live in a paradise island doing what i love with the people i love. Talk about a drug success story
 
That's amazing man. <3 I had the same experience 7 years ago, not from a drug but because I visited the place I live now and had a powerful moment that slammed into me where I knew I was home and had to live here. Actually now that I think about it, I was on 5-MeO-MiPT at the time. :) But I don't think it was the reason.
 
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Thank you all for your responses, I was very worried about my cat. She is fine, though :)

Does anyone else find it difficult to "integrate" one's self with the real world after MXE is removed? I, like so many others, have found such a profound serenity using MXE. It makes me feel so at ease, and my consumption of other drugs (opiates, benzos) is greatly reduced when I am on it. I almost forget I 'need' drugs to cope with life. Also it allows my mind to flow so much, I struggle with communication as it is, even on forums. MXE has allowed me to experience a whole new world, I can finally express my thoughts and emotions by creating music. It opens the floodgates.

But when it runs out, I just lose my drive and revert to my previous self. Then I end up taking more drugs to try to recreate the state of mind I was able to achieve with MXE. I'm running low now, and I am not looking forward to tomorrow. I'm trying to tell myself that I don't need it, but I really don't know.

Maybe something like tianeptine may help, but that is off topic.
 
Thank you all for your responses, I was very worried about my cat. She is fine, though :)

Does anyone else find it difficult to "integrate" one's self with the real world after MXE is removed? I, like so many others, have found such a profound serenity using MXE. It makes me feel so at ease, and my consumption of other drugs (opiates, benzos) is greatly reduced when I am on it. I almost forget I 'need' drugs to cope with life. Also it allows my mind to flow so much, I struggle with communication as it is, even on forums. MXE has allowed me to experience a whole new world, I can finally express my thoughts and emotions by creating music. It opens the floodgates.

But when it runs out, I just lose my drive and revert to my previous self. Then I end up taking more drugs to try to recreate the state of mind I was able to achieve with MXE. I'm running low now, and I am not looking forward to tomorrow. I'm trying to tell myself that I don't need it, but I really don't know.

Maybe something like tianeptine may help, but that is off topic.

That's drugs for you :)
 
Ahh...I've only tried M once, at a moderate dose, and it was such a wonderful mixture of K and DXM with this special factor...call it the M factor...i'd love to try it again.

*nostalgic sigh*
 
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