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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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Blowmonkey said:
There are other places where you can discuss and/or confirm vendor legitimacy. This is not it. If you can find vendors, you can easily find those places. Google is your friend.


If you truly believe those hyped up UK vendors with bells and whistles on their sites are the only ones who could acquire "pharmaceutical grade" chemicals, then you're mistaken. It's simply a marketing trick.

Just delete that link, it's not allowed.
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Apologies- please excuse my naivete - old but not wise :) All gone now, sorry.

Didn't think they were the ONLY ones, but if they are forming an organisation that may be self-policing and guard against scammers and rip-off merchants....got to be a move in the right direction......probably :\
 
The name & shame shonky vendors = harm reduction argument has been going on for as long as BL has existed. There is good reason for it not being allowed and it certainly isn't HR. Just look at what happens to many sites that go down that line - it just ends up with nothing but shills posting bullshit bigging up the site they shill for and posting false reports slagging off rival sites product. It doesn't work and would see BL shut down rapidly. It's a silly argument made by folks who ignore the bigger picture. And, as mentioned, there are plenty of other sites where you can discuss that stuff.
 
Just a quick note, there is much discussion about how the 3-methoxylated arylcyclohexlamines produce opioid effects, but there is little scientific evidence to support this. A friend recently had 3-MeO-PCP screened at the µ-opioid receptor and found its affinity to be totally insignificant. This is not to say that MXE is not euphoric or habituating, but that it's probably producing said effects through NMDA-antagonism.

Also it is often repeated on bluelight that ketamine's urinary bladder toxicity is produced by norketamine, does anyone know why this is? Because all signs show that MXE will produce 3-MeO-deschloro-norketamine as a metabolite in addition to 3-OH-deschloro-norketamine, albeit in much smaller quantities! Only something to consider with very heavy use.
 
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^^^ This. I keep saying that a 3-Meo group produces very little mu agonism, but people really seem to like the idea of methoxetamine having opioid effects. I don't feel it all, personally, and even if so at the neglible mu agonism would be greatly overshadowed by the much more in your face NMDA antagonism. Now, a 3-HO is another story.....(480x the mu agonism of unsubstituted PCP, putting it roughly on par with morphine I believe?)

And yeah, the n-dealkylation will produce the "norketamin" metabolite in most of these analogs. And the jury is still out as to why it is such a bladder irritant as far as I know...
 
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Well I guess if methoxetamine has no opioid effect, we shouldn't have to worry about tolerance, dependence and withdrawals. Yay!

Also fairly sure MXE has irritated my bladder. When I'm on it, I constantly need to piss, and it feels a tad painful. Even on the days after use, urination is not the treat it once was.
 
JSPete said:
Well I guess if methoxetamine has no opioid effect, we shouldn't have to worry about tolerance, dependence and withdrawals. Yay!
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Cos ketamine/PCP/other dissociative of choice addiction is so much fun, eh? ;)

Heavy use of MXE or any other dissociative will produce tolerance, dependence, withdrawals amongst other joyous and lovely things of wonder. Don't need opioids to produce addiction and all the surrounding ick.
 
also abuse of dissociatives is likely to leave you delusional for a while. And there may be physical ailments we're not yet aware off such as Ketamines Bladder issues.

You fuckin kids, just respect the drugs you take or theyll fuck you.
 
guys,i've been having a drink but not feeling much. Any advice on safe use with alcholol i know it doesn't go well but i'm bored of booze tbh. Or just not a great idea overall, bearing in mind this is my first time mixing mxe with anything other then phenibut.
 
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Argh I forgot ketamine was horribly addictive :( And delusions too?

Looks like I'm condemned to running around the streets naked, prophesizing and punching cops...painfully shrivelled.

Sigh...
 
Delsyd said:
Out of all the drugs ive tried, and ive tried almost all of em, ketamine was the most addictive.
I have a feeling MXE will be similar for me and many others.
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Besides MXE provides that wonderful warm glow. If ketamine is addictive without that feeling of contentment, then MXE could actually take the crown for addiction potential.
 
one mini trip report. A few carslbergs+magners+vodka shots+passoa shots+ etc. Plus 10mg-20mg of mxe is pretty fun. Lots of laughter good times and good food.Happy nye
 
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this addiction you're talking about comes for me mostly at small doses, though I haven't got extremely high yet. But 10mg intranasal has a definite stimulant effect for me and gives me a hypomanic urge to clean, organize, write or otherwise be obsessive/productive. I have bipolar disorder, but I think the stimulant side of this drug is probably real for everyone - and it makes it feel very practical, which bolsters my justification for using. addiction schematic, methinks.
 
I find that its rather moreish for me, but not because its addictive as such. Its just rather enjoyable.
 
I had a wonderful binge with IM'ing this stuff. It felt like it lasted a few years, but I know it was just a few days. At one point my girlfriend was off work so I stopped for the day and just picked up where I left off the next night. The afterglow is great and lasts until I get some sleep. I ran out a couple days ago and I'm back to normal completely. No overwhelming desire to use other than knowing that it's a really fun/deep chemical, and absolutely nothing that could be considered physical withdrawal. (we're only talking a few days of use though.. but I was constantly either holing or in-between holes)

I loved reading about people not knowing what was going on when they were on this stuff, because that was the common theme of the few days I was going pretty crazy with the stuff. My girlfriend liked the stuff too, though at the tail-end of a re-dose she did throw up. Also, just to mention (and this might be common sense) don't mix this with anything that would depress your breathing very much. I had a very unpleasant (labored, conscious breathing, kept thinking I was forgetting to breathe..) experience after taking a couple OTC sleeping pills trying to pass out at a reasonable hour the night before my girlfriend was off work.
 
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