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The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

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JD42890 said:
i would agree on the first part that its one of the safest drugs with IMO the least body load of anything next to weed. but i dont think light use of ket is really healthy at all haha
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It has wonderful anti-depressent properties, helps increasing the number of NMDA receptors in the brain (helps with learning, and memory), and is neuroprotective. I couldn't see how taking 30mg every other day could potentially cause any problems.
 
Cloudy said:
It has wonderful anti-depressent properties, helps increasing the number of NMDA receptors in the brain (helps with learning, and memory), and is neuroprotective. I couldn't see how taking 30mg every other day could potentially cause any problems.
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Fuck me.. I need some. I wish price discussion were allowed on here.
 
I think the shit is a terrible drug, way worse than cigarettes. I have no scientific studies prepared to justify my claims to all the naysayers but I've heard a fair amount of people report bladder issues. I went into serious depression on it and I was into the k- hole not light doses. Psychedelic Heroin, good enough nickname for me.
 
All of the medical literature I've come across supports most of the claims above that ketamine is extremely safe. Especially in comparison to some of the other dissociatives. And yes, it is being investigated currently for its suspected antidepressant, and neurogenic properties. So it appears that it can in fact be beneficial to some extent.

Too bad its damn near impossible to find in my area!
 
Ketamine certainly can create bladder issues, suspected to be due to the nor-ketamine metabolite. However this is really only seen with long term users using gram/grams a day. Taking ketamine once a week, or a few times a month shouldn't cause bladder issues. Maybe if you have had bladder issues in the past (not resulting from k), the k could exacerbate it.

Any psychological issue resulting from k imo is the same has having psychological issues resulting out of any possible traumatic experience. Psychedelic drugs do put your mind in a vulnerable state, so they shouldn't be taken lightly.
 
Assphace said:
Good enough for me.
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LOL even if I posted info, the naysayers would deny it. Alcohol is good as an anti depressant in low to moderate doses too so beyond anasthesia I see no benefits of ketamine. Feel free to google ketamine associated urinary tract infections and 'k pains' tho.

Ill concede the first couple k holes are a trip.
 
I find alcohol is quite the opposite of being an antidepressant but as I also have no studies at hand to prove that is the case won't be asserting that it is. Ketamine has been widely studied and shown to be harmless and possibly even beneficial used sparingly. Bladder issues take some serious abuse to get too - that isn't sparing use which is what the OP was asking about.
 
To me the title of this thread reads like 'If I use crystal Meth sparingly is it bad for me?'
Trying to disassociate ketamine from its addictive properties is a very ignorant way of looking at it.
 
Oh don't wink at me, I'll take my chances with tweaking any day over k again, just adding a different view from the majority.

Tweak is pretty terrible shit too though.
 
I'm would be quite happy using a lil of both... sparingly ;):p:D

The Network said:
That vid doesn't work. at least not in my country
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Well if you can find it elsewhere it would be this:

NSFW:
Alabama 3 - U Don't Dans 2 Tekno Anymore

Last train to Mashville Girl, you got on board
Packed up your medicines, left without a word
Now you're strung out in Suburbia, waiting for that call
You just chill out by yourself behind your front door
You lost the plot again, where you are now ain't clear
It's a misty morning memory, the road that brought you here
The special K keeps the chills away with your needle and your spoon
Staring at the wall, sharin' your score with no one

And U don't dans to Tekno anymore
I don't see you under the strobe light on the dance floor
It's been awhile since I saw you ultraviolet smile
And U don't dans to Tekno anymore

Take it way:

(Dwayne Love)
Bein' a lover man and a DJ
Lotsa girlz come down to front when I'm on the 1's and 2's
There was this one particular girl though, she was so beautiful, she used to knock my eyes out every damn time
One night, she took this funny little heart-shaped pill and just died, right there in front of me
Now she don't dans to tekno, anymore


U don't dans to Tekno anymore
U don't dans to Tekno anymore
U don't dans to tekno,
So sad since you let go
And U don't dans to Tekno anymore

(Yeah, I'll tell you what)
the 808 and the 303 ain't the friends they used to be
You got no time for sweet 909
You said goodbye to Chicago
Detroit City, Lord you let 'em go
And there ain't no guests at the borderline

(All the people sing it)
And U don't dans to Tekno anymore
I don't see you under the strobe light on the dance floor
It's been awhile since I saw you ultraviolet smile
And U don't dans to Tekno anymore

U don't dans to Tekno anymore
(Lord Above)
U don't dans to Tekno anymore
U don't dans to Tekno,
So sad since you let go
And U don't dans to Tekno anymore
U don't dans to Tekno
Hip-Hop or Electro
U don't dans to Tekno anymore
U don't dans to Tekno anymore


See - I even brought up the perils of ket addiction myself only in lyrical form :)
 
Based on the fact that ketamine is actually found in some prescription cough syurps (along with codeine) I would have to say it is relatively safe for your body. I know people who sniff lines the length and width of an average pinky finger and they can do that all day everyday for months and months on end. You should be fine with light recreational use.
 
naginnudej said:
Definitely start with a low dose just to get a feel for things. Going straight for a khole (no matter how much you've read about) isn't usually the best course of action with ket--it ends up scaring or confusing most people before they have a chance to learn to appreciate it. There's really no rush either so you might as well work your way up to it.

As per your music question I've gone into holes with and without music and don't have anything bad to say about either. Music ends up taking a back seat but you really just have to try it out and see for yourself. :)
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If one has had experience with another dissociative, going straight into the k-hole shouldn't be a problem. DXM was one of my first drug experiences, and after some initial failed experiments undershooting with second plateau doses, then several profound third and high third plateau experiences, I was certain that I didn't want to bother with low-dose ket. The k-hole was what I wanted!

Since posting, I have now injected ketamine around 10 times into my vastus lateralis, with the highest dose being somewhere around 125-130mg. I definitely will not return to insufflation afterward, if I can help it. I'm glad I got over the unsettled feeling I had about intramuscular injection.
 
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The Network said:
Like we all know cigs can still give you cancer even if you smoke like one a month. But does Ketamine do anything bad to you in terms of long term health? Like messing up your memory for a month, I don't consider that a long term effect. Now I'm sure it's bad for you if you go into the K hole every night, but I'm talking about maybe a few times a month at best.

Yes I searched but I didn't find anything relating to this specific question...
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It seems really safe as far as illegal drugs go, haha. I keep reading that it's still used for children at the dentist. Also that the toxic dose is far, far beyond what would put you out.
 
I could have sworn that I already responded to this thread...
Anyhow, I have now injected ketamine around 10 times now since my last post. Intramuscular and intranasal are not night and day contrary to popular belief, but IMing is a smoother, more immersive, more effective, and more conservational ROA. I will not be returning to intranasal if I have the requisite tools available on hand to inject.
 
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