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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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Hawaiin Baby Woodrose seeds or Morning Glory Seeds

I was thinking about trying one of the two out but wanted to know which one users prefer (less nausea, etc). I was thinking about going with HBWR because it requires a lot less to be eaten compared to MG and I imagine it would be a lot less on your stomach.


Thanks! Let me know what you guys think!
 
yeah they both work but i liked HBW better. Id reccomend having a lot of weed on hand to ive always needed it with lsa
 
LSA/ morning glory question

so i tried taking morning glories for my 1st time this weekend & it wasnt success. i didnt grind up the seeds enough so it was torture getting them down with some orange juice. i couldnt even finish my whole cup and then i got super naseauted and had to make myself throw up.

my ? is for those that have had success with MG seeds can you still puke but it will work?! it seems like if you puke em up your just doing it for nothing.
 
My first question for you is did you by them from a store or did you order them online? Most stores have them soaked in pesticides and such that are put there so you do not ingest them. The best way to ingest them if you are going to buy them from a store is to perform a extraction of the LSA from the seeds. How long did you have the seeds down before you decided to induce self vomiting?
 
i bought them from a store, but i washed them off pretty good to try to not let the pesticides effect them.
how would i extract the LSA from the seeds?! could u help me figure that out.

i had them down about 25 minutes, i couldnt bare it anymore.
 
I lost hope that I could possibly use these magnificent seeds as an entheogen. Until this weekend.

The last 4-5 times I took HBWR seeds I puked my guts out, had a huge body high and nausea. It was horrible on the body and so I had pretty bad trips.

I decided this weekend to give them another chance, along with two friends, in hope that it will be at least as half as extraordinary as the first times I took them.

I find their 'taste' horrible, even the thought of it makes me cringe. I scrapped their outer 'fuzzy' coat of the seeds, crushed them and placed them in 3 gelcaps "00" (5seeds/gelcap). This solved my gag reflex and the taste problem (last time I tried to take the seeds orally, 2 seconds after they touched my tongue, I puked my brains out). I had an empty stomach, being quite hungry. I made a hot ginger ale (ginger with honey) and drank it 5 minutes after the ingestion. I had NO nausea at all, the onset was extremely smooth and the hole experience was fascinating. I am forever grateful to these seeds and will continue to use them, because I find them to be extremely mental, very 'entactogenic' and quite spiritual and the afterglow is AMAZING.. When I woke up, after 12 hours +.. I felt great, EVEN HAD VISUALS.. slight mescalin/2c-e like moving/breathing of the carpet.. I even got 'busted' that day with my two friends for riding without a ticket, but I have never felt so happy in a police station. Extremely therapeutic, but not to be taken lightly at higher doses. :)
 
Only ever tried HBW, but then again, I wasn't feeling naucious at all (only felt a lack of energy while coming up). Ended up chewing the seeds and made sure to drink enough water. I did smoke some weed about an hour before taking the seeds, but not sure if that reduced the nausea or not.

I suppose I'll stick to HWB though, because of the amount of seeds needed.

The guy behind the counter where I bought the seeds suggested crushing the seeds and letting them sit half an hour-hour in some wine or vodka (just water works too, if you prefer not having any alcohol), he said it'd help with the nausea and reduce the discomfort from the come-up. Something I'll try next time.

Hope that helps.
 
do a cold water extraction with peppermint oil of HBWR or ololuiqui

make sure the seeds are fresh and organic

its best to grow your own, esp if you cant get them to work
 
HBWR >>> MG

Tried a few different batches of MG seeds, they all pretty much were crap at any dose. HBWR were great every time.
 
:)

took another 10 yesterday night with a friend (it was his first time). even though these were from an older batch and only 3-4 days have passed since the last time I took 15, I had no nausea and the tolerance wasn't high, I got really off. Stood up in a tree for hours with some friends, smoked some bud, we all had a fucked up/tired day, but laughed it off, when noticing the futility of our soreness and our ego inflating :).. I am so relieved that I can experience the magic given by this seeds again, I can not express. I'm now at work, in the afterglow, with a big grin on my face, thinking about the message I got from my friend which took the seeds for his first time, after we've split up: 'I finally now understand how good this feels'...
 
psihonaut said:
I am so relieved that I can experience the magic given by this seeds again, I can not express.
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Nice, I think with all the posts of people vomiting, leg cramps, nausea, and general bad body feelings other people forget the magic that can happen for others with HBWS. Sometimes what is not mentioned are the beautiful aqua blue and orange patterns, the beautiful insight, the earthy feeling that entwines ones emotions, thoughts, hopes, fears and dreams. The nice after glow. Sometimes these seeds are under rated.

It is often said HBWS have no shamanic historical use as other seeds do. But that would be false now as over the last 30 or so years there is a history of use. That would be the people that give them a try such as the people reporting in these posts.
 
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Nice, I think with all the posts of people vomiting, leg cramps, nausea, and general bad body feelings other people forget the magic that can happen for others with HBWS. Sometimes what is not mentioned are the beautiful aqua blue and orange patterns, the beautiful insight, the earthy feeling that entwines ones emotions, thoughts, hopes, fears and dreams. The nice after glow. Sometimes these seeds are under rated.

It is often said HBWS have no shamanic historical use as other seeds do. But that would be false now as over the last 30 or so years there is a history of use. That would be the people that give them a try such as the people reporting in these posts.
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Couldn't agree with you more. It's hard to see past all the nausea and general feeling like shit that most people experience during the comeup, but if you can manage to overcome that stuff it can be an amazing experience.
 
Hello everyone!
Santa Claus sent me a letter and he wanted me to post it here:
"I have bought 10 Ipomoea purpurea bags with about 70 seeds in each of them. 2/3 of them are black and the rest are white.
I have read conflicting texts about the lsa content of these seeds. Wikipedia says they have some lsa, but a trusted finnish morning glory guide says they don't.
Does anyone know how much lsa these might have compared to the heavenly blues, if any?
Also, I'm thinking of doing the basic cwe, just grounding them and having them sit in cold water for some time and then filter it. How much will this affect the potency?
I'll try to find some heavenly blues, because they should have atleast some lsa, but really hard to find here
I'm planning to dose today."

EDIT: I received a new mail from Santa, he was asking how long should he wait before purging if the ends up not doing the cwe.
 
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Ok no heavenly blues, just the purpurea. I guess I'll just ground and eat around 350 of them and hope to get some effect.

EDIT: ended up eating 10 grams of them in strawberry yoghurt. Really good!
I might start writing in the experience topic if something starts happening.
Been about 20 mins from dosing, hadn't eaten in about 9 hours. No nausea yet and eyesight seems a bit sharper than usual but thats propably placebo.

And I read something in erowid about heavenly blue and flying saucers called purpurea...
The package also called these by the name that violacea has, but it also called them ipomoea purpurea.

Ate 20grams, almost no effects, not even nausea.
I'll go and buy some tricolors today.
 
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The BL'er Saucy took HBWR with piracetam and used diphenhydramine throughout to prevent vomiting.

Anyone else combo'ed LSA with piracetam?
 
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