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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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hbwr are a waste of time imo

maybe its coz im on an SNRI but i did 25 seeds and felt nothing and yet my friend did half the amount I did and felt sick (which i didnt) and felt pretty intoxicated.
 
Eldaren said:
chew them up and hold them in your mouth for 20-30 minutes, then swallow or spit out. the sublingual is key ime with hbwr.
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This.

Swallowing them just doesn't work. I generally chew them and hold the juice in my mouth for a good half hour or so before swallowing the gunk. Five or six seeds should be enough for a pretty strong experience - ten would be too much for most folks. I <3 HBWR :D

Also, welcome to BL and PD :)
 
To the experienced users whats the body load like? And how bad is it the next day?

Edit: wanting to do it later but have some things that need to be done tommorrow...
 
I chewed 5 up about 50mins ago, held the gunk in my mouth for half an hour, mostly under my tongue. Swallowed them 20mins ago (duh! :P).

But as yet, nothing has happened?
 
Ya, it can take a good 1-2 hours to fully come-up on LSA. Depending on the quality of the seeds, five may not be an overwhelming dose but will give you a feel for the potency of the batch you have to titrate any future doses from. LSA is one of my favourites - get yerself a nice playlist going (I find LSA makes me really nostalgic for "oldskool" (to me) stuff) and have fun :D

Also, feel free to drop into PD Social if you feel like a bit of swirlychat - the good folks there will look after you and keep you entertained :)
 
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Okay, will do. Thanks :D

I'll let you know how it goes, at the moment nothing has changed although I have gotten rather cold, probably nothing to do with the seeds though!
 
Shambles said:
Bodyload varies greatly between individuals. Some get cramps and nausea whilst others (like me) have no uncomfortable bodyload. One of the YMMV kinda thangs really. I usually have a great afterglow the next day, personally :)
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In my experience, the body load and psychoactive effects can vary quite a bit with different batches of seeds (I have only tried morning glory). There are several ergolines contained in the seeds, and the differing relative amounts of them makes every batch a little bit different.

I have had trips that were extremely sedating, and I've had trips that were kinda stimulating, similar to LSD. I have had trips that produced little nausea and cramping, and I have had "trips" where bodyload was the only effect I got.

Generally speaking, if someone asked me what to expect on MGS, I would describe it as being: A surprisingly sedating trip for a psychedelic with mild, but noticable, visual distortions (when compared to LSD or shrooms anyway). I would also say they should expect some degree of nausea, especially on the comeup, but it usually goes away. muscle cramping is also a good possibility. It takes about 2-3 hours to reach full effects, and the trip lasts about 8 hours.

Worth trying IMO.
 
Patience, Grasshopper ;)

If you continue to get no real worthwhile effects I find redosing works okay with HBWR. I've dosed around the clock for 24+ hours on them with no problem - and each redose definitely gave me a good kick up the arse =D
 
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Okay, okay, being a little impatient as of my failure last night and now im feeling a little dissappionted! hehe
 
Well nothing happened, so I redosed on 7 seeds and nothing happened with that either :( . So I went to bed. haha.
 
lsa is a gentle come up and comes in waves. smoking weed helps a LOT with it IMO. for everyone ive seen try them, weed is probably the key point, other than the sublingual parts. i think it keys you into the more subtle effects that are happening that might be otherwise disregarded.
 
Prophetic, it sounds like you got either weak or bunk seeds.

7 seeds was plenty for me to feel it and 10 seeds was a strong trip.
I havent had HBWR in many years though, maybbe the quality of seeds has gotten alot worse or you just got a weak batch.
 
Yeah, does sound like a weak batch cos I've been completely wasted on 5-7 high potency seeds many times. 12 - even with staggered dosing - should've ripped you a new one. Bad luck but at least they're cheap - maybe try a different source. As with any natural product, I guess there will be a fair bit of variation between batches. When you get some decent ones you'll understand why some caution over initial dosing is a Good Thing cos they're potent lil buggers 8o
 
Delsyd said:
Prophetic, it sounds like you got either weak or bunk seeds.
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Agreed. I have had seeds where I was thankful I didn't do more than 4. Powdered and swalllowed and had nice strong trips. I think it's the seed quality that is effecting people.
 
Yeah it must be.

I know that heat and light degrades LSA but does it do that whilst it is still in the seed or only when an extraction has been done? Could leaving these seeds out cause them to become alot weaker? Does drinking tap water with it also weaken it? I'd imagine not as you should have already dosed sublingually?



Just been down to my guys place and he wasnt aware that they are weak. He did say that he had kept them a while and that he was getting a fresh batch in soon and would let me know.

He also gave me all the remaining seeds from this batch! :D. Good, but I am imagining these will be duds to. :(

So will test them out now I guess....
 
Prophetic said:
I know that heat and light degrades LSA but does it do that whilst it is still in the seed or only when an extraction has been done? Could leaving these seeds out cause them to become alot weaker? Does drinking tap water with it also weaken it? I'd imagine not as you should have already dosed sublingually? .
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These are all excellent questions Prophetic. Here's what I learned over the last 35 years. :) Morning glories and HBWS do go flat over time. Much like if someone left a blotter out in the open air and tried it 2 years later. Stored well they will retain for a while. So heat and light do degrade the LSA and other alkaloids much like LSD. We do know that stored properly LSD will retain potency. As we've heard it is stabile but fragile. Storage helps. I have had seeds go flat in 8 months. So yes, the fresher the better. We don't know how vendors store them. Good HBWS will have you tripping as long as LSD. Some have aweful body loads and some seem very clean due to different alkaloid content and other variables. I'm not sure about tap water but would use either juice or something other to chase it. I've never tried the sublingal method.

Saying all that there are bunk or weak HBWS for sure. Go with a Hawaiin strain. There are also very good ones around too. Years ago the best trip I've had on LSA was growing my own morning glories and eating off the vine.
 
Thanks everybody. As I said I told the guy and he more than made up for it and hopefully he will get some nice fresh strong ones next time. :)
 
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