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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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Does anyone else find LSA + high quality sativa cannabis to be much more euphoric than MDMA? I've had the pleasure of ingesting some extremely good rolls and molly, but I was absolutely floored after eating 10 HBWR and vaporizing some AK at around the 2 hour mark. I couldn't believe it, all I could do was sink into the floor and giggle like a moron until I came down a little.
 
First Time MG Tripper!

hey guys this might be a stupid question but here goes...Are Heavenly Blues the only type of MGs that will work?...
i.e. Crimson Ramblers, Dwarfed Mixed Colors, Giant Mixed Colors, Grandpa Otts, or Milky Ways...
I found a website that sells chemically untreated seeds and am wondering if I can order any of the other varieties...(Heavenly Blues are sold out!)
As well, can I assume that making a tincture/extraction isn't imperative, thus allowing me to eat the seeds whole or crushed into a drink?
Thanks a ton...
 
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hey guys this might be a stupid question but here goes...Are Heavenly Blues the only type of MGs that will work?...
i.e. Crimson Ramblers, Dwarfed Mixed Colors, Giant Mixed Colors, Grandpa Otts, or Milky Ways...
I found a website that sells chemically untreated seeds and am wondering if I can order any of the other varieties...(Heavenly Blues are sold out!)
As well, can I assume that making a tincture/extraction isn't imperative, thus allowing me to eat the seeds whole or crushed into a drink?
Thanks a ton...
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Heavenly Blues aren't the only type of MGs that work, but to the best of my knowledge they are the most potent commercially-available seeds.

If you're going to order online though, I would highly recommend you buy some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds instead. You'll only need around 6-10 of them, compared to 300-500 MGS. Trust me, eating that much morning glory powder will emotionally scar you for years to come. :(
 
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I bought 200 of the seeds to extract em and sell the shit as LSD. If I knew that I was going to take them all I wouldn'tve done it.
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looks like you're not only stupid, but scum too. Thats alot of bad karma passing off LSA as LSD.


Transcendence said:
Does anyone else find LSA + high quality sativa cannabis to be much more euphoric than MDMA? I've had the pleasure of ingesting some extremely good rolls and molly, but I was absolutely floored after eating 10 HBWR and vaporizing some AK at around the 2 hour mark. I couldn't believe it, all I could do was sink into the floor and giggle like a moron until I came down a little.
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I find LSA to be EXTREMELY euphoric, its so fantastic =D
But wait till you try HBWR + MDMA + cannabis, now THAT is a HEAVENLY combo when done right. Just remember to take plenty of vasodilators. be safe.
 
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looks like you're not only stupid, but scum too. Thats alot of bad karma passing off LSA as LSD.




I find LSA to be EXTREMELY euphoric, its so fantastic =D
But wait till you try HBWR + MDMA + cannabis, now THAT is a HEAVENLY combo when done right. Just remember to take plenty of vasodilators. be safe.
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Agreed on both points.

HBWR (15 seeds) got me having no idea what to do with myself because I loved everything so much and felt like I was being hugged by the universe.
 
I'm getting about 50 HBWR seeds soon. The friend whose getting them for me said that I needed to scrape off a layer on the outside. Does this sound right? I asked if it was part of the seed or whether it was something "man-made" and I think he said it's just part of the seed.

He also said the best way to take them was too grind them and hold them under my tongue for 45 minutes, as this would make it so I wouldn't get sick.
 
theres often a fuzzy coating on the seeds, some people remove it as its claimed that the fuzz is the cause of the associated nausea.

Sublingual administration (under your tongue) works but you'll need more seeds to get the same effect. I think its about 50% more. Honestly i find it easy enough to eat them, just have some ginger about an hour before the seeds. The nausea isnt THAT bad. Or maybe i just have an iron stomach =D
 
2 HBW tips:

1) If you're planning to take a vasoconstrictive, blood pressure raising stimulant like an MDxx with HBW I highly recommend you take some Bali Kratom or Pods to smooth out the MDxx. Does absolute wonders.

2) Taking DXM on the comedown from HBW does wonders to bring back the trip to a new unique peak. Alternatively, you can take DXM the day after a HBW experience and get a much more interesting, insightful, euphoric DXM trip than usual which if you're lucky will bring back some of the HBW visuals (sometimes amazingly so).

Oh, by the way, I recently discovered that smoking Deems while peaking on HBW is fucking fantastic (though DEFINITELY only recommended for real veteran psychonauts). Hopefully one day I'll get to dance with Sally d while on HBW :)
 
Basically I have heaps of HBWR seeds and everything needed to perform a nice extract. Have not tried LSA yet as at the moment I have access to good LSD as well as other psychs. Do I go ahead and try it or just stick to the "real" stuff?
 
Transcendence said:
Does anyone else find LSA + high quality sativa cannabis to be much more euphoric than MDMA? I've had the pleasure of ingesting some extremely good rolls and molly, but I was absolutely floored after eating 10 HBWR and vaporizing some AK at around the 2 hour mark. I couldn't believe it, all I could do was sink into the floor and giggle like a moron until I came down a little.
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For me the MDMA experience is pretty unique, but some of my LSA trip did have an MDMA vibe to them. I would get pretty strong euphoria, almost to the point of just lying in bed for 4-5 hours and not doing anything other than listening to music. I would also get decent amount of empathy, but nothing like MDMA. But you definitely 'feel' people and its easier to see things from their point of view.
 
I ate some seeds back in the sumer of 06. I ate roughly 200 seeds, and was in Target with my grandmother when it kicked in. As soon as I felt the lysergic feeling coming on I went to the bathroom and low and behold my eyes were fucking saucers. When I left the bathroom I noticed I was significantly dizzy, and the nausea started coming. The nausea wasn't the type that I felt like puking, but rather it felt like I had some lead in my stomach weighing it down and cramping the fuck out of it. When I got home I really noticed the effects of the LSD-type kicking in. My grandfather's face was all fuzzy like looking at a TV really close. LSD doesn't give me any true hallucinations, and neither did this; I just got visual distortion and dizziness. All in all I never repeated it. I'd much rather wait to get a batch of cubensis, even if it took over a year to get. One important note is that later (as in the next day) I was on a five hour car trip and though I was completely sober the stomach cramping came back two-fold. I had to fucking shit, and we're not talking about a normal shit. This shit blasted out of me like a Trinity experiment as soon as I made it back to my grandparents house. Fuck, I won't do that again.
 
Can anyone give me some advice on taking HBW seeds sublingualy? Should I crush them slightly and just hold it under my tongue? Or get it down to a powder? Take it with a bit of juice to also sit in my mouth?

Also how fast should it come on?
 
Looks like LSA is yet another chemical that makes me drunk. In a good way this time though. It also makes me more insightful, noticing things I usually don't.

Also making me much more social, which is usually a problem for me.


I too: 4 crushed seeds under the tongue for half an hour. Same thing but 5 again, for another half an hour.

I'm editing this as my "trip" developes. Right now it's an interesting mix of being drunk, fully conscious/senses are all normal, and some psychedelic induced insights and feelings of connection with things(i.e that humming bird outside the window)

Very interesting. I just think of something, a noun, and I can have insights into it. I could write down on a piece of paper how to improve my life. And I feel those things, not just recognize them as logical conclusions to various factual problems. Whats to be seen is this will actually prove helpful once I'm not on LSA. (I'm also feeling slightly less "drunk" now. More motor control. It's still notable that my senses are pretty much unaffected. At first I thought "how do people compare this to LSD?" But then I realized that I needed to change my view of LSD-the most notable effect of this LSA experience is the insight it gives me; so LSD would be the same, but far more profound.
 
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hmm, so there is NO way to get around the leg cramps? That is the only thing I ever really hated about morning glory... I can handle the nausea. It is a very pleasant experience otherwise.
 
if you have some, try a little weed. Not too much, It has a big effect.
it really kicks it up a notch in a glorious way

I've just eaten 11 seeds, contemplating whether i want to add one more.
Trying the wizards cocoa suggestion in addition to my usual piracetam, lets see how it goes =D
 
That trip turned into a sort of turning point in my life. Iv kind of woken up, and I think I can overcome my social anxiety and other problems.

Iv come to quite a few realizations it's great.

Maybe when I come down totally it won't seem like my problems are solved as much. But this was a pretty low dose trip, so I can continue taking psychedelics and keep working out my problems.
 
The leg cramps are mainly caused by the intense vasoconstriction LSA's sometimes can cause people. Preload on L-Arginine, Cacao Nibs/Cocoa powder, and/or Niacin. All of these are effective vasodilators. You'll prob. want to redose on the vasodilators halfway through your trip as I don't think they have as long a duration as LSA's. I bet Kratom or Pod Tea would also help remove the leg cramps. And do NOT take any strong vasoconstrictors when tripping on LSA's (such as certain stimulants like amphetamines). Will make the muscle tension MUCH worse...LOL
 
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