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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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DeanDouglas said:
hmm, so there is NO way to get around the leg cramps? That is the only thing I ever really hated about morning glory... I can handle the nausea. It is a very pleasant experience otherwise.
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go for a walk during the comeup
 
The Wizard said:
Just wanted to say Morning Glories don't suck, just some of the people who try them suck. People who jump into trying Morning Glory without knowing enough about the correct type, preparation, dosage, ingestion method, and the range of effects are obviously destined to not fully appreciate the beauty of MG seeds...
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Can you tell us about correct type, prep, dosage, ingestion method, and range of effects then? I'm honestly not being sarcastic. I'm interested in doing this drug, I just really do want to know how to get the best out of it.

Or at least post a link to another thread/web page that has this info on it.
 
i had an interesting experience with mgs, some of the feelings i did not enjoy, but the trip itself was pretty good. no true visuals, but i definately got the fuzzy effect. i rinsed mine and mixed the crushed seeds in applesauce. if you just swallow it without mushing it around you're mouth, you completely bypass the taste. i also smoked weed when the cramps started getting really bad... talk about medicnal marijuanna... its nice to be high around that time since the come up time for mgs is so long, it is a nice transition from high to trippin... any other tips on easing the pain without extraction? weed only does so much
 
Moonmixer said:
Can you tell us about correct type, prep, dosage, ingestion method, and range of effects then? I'm honestly not being sarcastic. I'm interested in doing this drug, I just really do want to know how to get the best out of it.

Or at least post a link to another thread/web page that has this info on it.
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For all your MGS/HBWR seed needs - The Big and Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread :)
 
How intense are LSA trips generally, from HBWR seeds?
Like, if I use 9 seeds sublingually, should I expect a +2? (Coming from a person who has had +2 and +3 shroom experiences)
 
I did 9 seeds sublingually in two sets. first 4 for half an hour, then 5 for another half hour.

I had some interesting insights and it helped me out with some personal problems, but trip wise it would probably be rated pretty low. No visuals or other change in my senses.
 
going sublingually or doing an extraction reduces the potency, you'll need ~50% more to get the same experience.

Honestly, just eat them. Have some ginger pills for the nausea and some weed once you feel like you start tripping.

Moonmixer said:
How intense are LSA trips generally, from HBWR seeds?
Like, if I use 9 seeds sublingually, should I expect a +2? (Coming from a person who has had +2 and +3 shroom experiences)
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Weed makes a huge difference. My recent 11 seed experience (eaten) was a ++ until i had some weed (not much, 1 one-hitter full) which launched it into a solid +++
If i were you i'd just eat them, sublingual has never been hugely successful for me
 
There is something interesting about LSA's: mental effects and general total spacey bodyhigh
and at the same time there is something lame: mild sensory effects and lethargic sedation, and count the nausea when you don't prepare them right.
It seems to beckon to approach it very consciously and use it as a tool, either that or just sit there like a bag of potatoes and feel floaty like when you eat a bunch of hash.

It's not worthless shit but don't bother looking for something that may be common to a lot of other psychedelics but MGs or HBWR just don't have. Worst thing you can do is
to want a LSD analogue. Expectations and preconceptions can be such a lethal thing yet they are something in us and not in the LSA alkaloids.
There are also empathogens that are no good if you want something exactly like MDMA but when you can accept them for what they are they can be quite interesting.
Same goes for people in a way. Keep an open mind.
 
I guess its good then that I have never done LSD... I don't expect anything!
However, I do want an experience that is WORTH something, whether that's mild sedation, hallucinations and whatnot, or whether it's heavy.

If I want anything from it, I do want the psychedelic mindset. Nothing extreme, but I do expect it to be more thought-changing/perception altering than cannabis, or at least in a less gentle way. Is it right to expect this?
 
I find HBWR (never tried MGS) to be a very rewarding experience - one of my favourite psyches. Produces instensely euphoric psychedelia in me that is certainly as "strong" as mushies or LSD, if completely different. It's perhaps more of a recreational psyche than a deep one, but certainly has potential to give a more profound experience. I find HBWR trips to be extremely nostalgic somehow. I tend to want to listen to music from my salad days and reminisce. Lovely stuff :)
 
Is there a step by step CWE for HBWR here somewhere..? I thought I saw one with detailed pictures but cant locate it now..and I know it differs but would this be the best way to shorten the side effects.(naseua).....................And NO I wont keester them..!
 
There's one extraction technique here but if you search "HBWR" and "extraction" you will probably find others too :)

Never had nausea from HBWR myself - clean the fuzzy crap off 'em and chew for a long time is what I do and it has never failed me. Others are not so fortunate unfortunately :\
 
For me it's been hit and miss in that regard. Some trips have been completely nausea free, while on others I've been forced lie down the entire duration due to intense nausea (but no vomiting). Go figure. I usually just scrape off the coating and chew the seeds as well - tried the CWE once, but it diminished the effects a lot, and the nausea was still there for me that time (although not too unbearable).
 
The other day my cousin took 25 HBWR seeds with me and he ended up immobilized for 5 hours due to nausea, disorientation and sedation. Is this common for a high dose? The seeds were all shucked and ground into a powder.
 
leiphos said:
The other day my cousin took 25 HBWR seeds with me and he ended up immobilized for 5 hours due to nausea, disorientation and sedation. Is this common for a high dose? The seeds were all shucked and ground into a powder.
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If you look around you'll find that the prime dose is about 9 seeds tops, with good seeds. Sounds like your cousin had good seeds, and took WAY too many.
 
25 seeds is HUGE for someone without tolerance. 13 consistently sends me into a state scientifically known as "Tripping Balls", i couldnt even imagine what 25 would be like.
Sedation is also pretty significant at 13 seeds, i'm not surprised 25 left him immobilised.
 
Im going to try 5 for the first time tommorrow ..just chew em up and eat them seems to be the best way Ive read . Ive done lsd numerous times but you only get the upset stomache for the first hour with that, which is the only part that worries me with HBWR....cross my fingers
 
I took about 1000 morning glory seeds last week. Ground in coffee grinder and mixed with orange juice. Sent me into full-on cosmic Lysergamide bliss. No nausea to speak of. A euphoric loss of time. Visuals included Hexagonal geometric patterns overlaying vision; waves; tracers; fuzz. Merging with the universe. Nonverbal communication with fellow trippers. I was heavily sedated for the first few hours but ended up dancing to The Beatles as the sun went down, felt as though I was being reborn and experiencing a sun-set and sun-rise simultaneously. Interlocking waves of energy. Maybe the most blissful, cosmic moment of my extensive psychedelic career.

Don't underestimate this amazing chemical.

Next week I plan to take the same dose potentiated with 1.5g of syrian rue and hit freebase DMT at the peak.
 
^ Sounds like a good trip :)

It seems you got all the positives of LSA without the negatives. Not having nausea and getting full blown, clear psychedelia is something I never got with it.

Lucky you ;) :)
 
rhinogrey said:
I took about 1000 morning glory seeds last week. Ground in coffee grinder and mixed with orange juice. Sent me into full-on cosmic Lysergamide bliss. No nausea to speak of. A euphoric loss of time. Visuals included Hexagonal geometric patterns overlaying vision; waves; tracers; fuzz. Merging with the universe. Nonverbal communication with fellow trippers. I was heavily sedated for the first few hours but ended up dancing to The Beatles as the sun went down, felt as though I was being reborn and experiencing a sun-set and sun-rise simultaneously. Interlocking waves of energy. Maybe the most blissful, cosmic moment of my extensive psychedelic career.

Don't underestimate this amazing chemical.

Next week I plan to take the same dose potentiated with 1.5g of syrian rue and hit freebase DMT at the peak.
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I've had almost that exact experience with HBWR. The hexagonal pattern thing is crazy. It goes absolutely nuts when a strobelight goes on, the world looks like a very simplistic paint-by-numbers picture. Totally incapacitating for the duration of the strobe =D

Looking forward to my next foray into the woodrose
 
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