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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

The immersion is what I was going for, but I don't think it's as good for me on O-PCE as it was on MXE. With the right dose it was like being in my own movie. I'm wondering if DCK would work better - that one's next on my list to try. Regardless, I clearly need to get things set up how I want them before I start dosing (and clean my room).
 
apatheist said:
The immersion is what I was going for, but I don't think it's as good for me on O-PCE as it was on MXE. With the right dose it was like being in my own movie. I'm wondering if DCK would work better - that one's next on my list to try. Regardless, I clearly need to get things set up how I want them before I start dosing (and clean my room).
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for gaming purposes I would say 3-meo-pcp is the best, with the stimulation it's still an inmersive, but grounded experience
 
Recently took a high (for my conditions) eyeballed insufflated dose (overall 3 bumps) and it resulted in one of the best drug experiences in my life. I'd say it was the transition to a whole hole. I could barely move (had to piss once) but I recognized my room still when I concentrated on it. Understandably I preferred to lay in my bed and let my surroundings move into clay textures with ancient symbols and tried to have a conversation with god, which ended in a monologue, because they does not like me apparently.

Just saying, that this drug should only be used in full/non functional doses in contrast to 3-Meo-PCP/PCE. It is awesome.

It is also a supreme pain alleviator during the onset. After the comedown the pain increases but the next day it (chronic pain, whose level is changing constantly) is better than before taking it (could be coincidence).
 
I dosed 33mg... Whoa.. That was at 6pm yesterday. Still not feeling right. I don't usually do many dissos, So I really don't have tolerance to them, I would say. I try things here and there. I was looking to escape reality.
Not sure what I escaped into. But I was sure out of reality.

Still not right feeling..
 
There's a new type of confusion and it's called O-PCE, a rather oh-peaceful name for an anvil. Hear me preach, dear choir.

1mg oral allergy dose already flew within radar, the general radar of mood and the particular alerting from the kidney. Though no such renal trouble noted through the subsequent delivery of 4 x 10mg through the rear. This is a good intuited estimate, though under the respectable standard of actual recollection of exact number. It's reasonable to expect a couple of seconds of retention in memory after turning off the scale with about every other chemical, but this one is different, making an idiot-proof paper record of action a future method to madness to be considered.

Good people drink good beer, but there's only so much amplification of hangover even the saint is willing to accept from a mere two pints of good act. Maybe it's the dissociative itself? Further experiments needed, hopefully not too soon. Who wants frequent surprise visits from a virtuous psychoanalyst.

Lastly of interest is the sudden appreciation for otherwise unimpressive tryptamines. For one, they remove the effect of leathery aged skin, either hallucinated or physiologically actuated. Though why dissociate terms on a spectrum instead of consciousness.
 
Sorry, your message is too cryptic too me. Either too poetic for a non native speaker or just crippled because written under the influence.

You saying, you got kidney problems after rectally administrating 40 mg (or already with 1mg?) ? Thanks for clarification.
 
Only if you consider hangover an influence, or include long term influence, to which I can't plead innocence. I'd like to be more uptight about driving a wedge between poetry and butchering the English language, but I'm not sure this is the right chemical setting for doing so, as a live trip report has been attempted and abandoned. It seems to be pretty harsh on verbal faculties, more so than MXE, DXM or ephenidine.

Funnily my kidneys complained about 1mg oral, but didn't with the subsequent 40mg rectal. A bit reminiscent of other dissociatives, but the disproportion is notable. Pain killing properties might of course be totally skewing bodily signals, but my bet is yet again on the stomach converting this stuff to something unnecessarily renally caustic.
 
Thanks for the info regarding kidney strain. IMHO this substance lingers too long in the organism and possibly is predetermined to interact with other compounds taken days later.
 
I found it not to be worth vaping, I'd need relatively big amounts and the effects quickly fade. I only tried vaping amounts up to 14mg though, should I push it any higher? It became some kind of a black puddle, when heated for to long, so watch out to only slowly apply heat to your bowl.
 
iRavage said:
I found it not to be worth vaping, I'd need relatively big amounts and the effects quickly fade. I only tried vaping amounts up to 14mg though, should I push it any higher? It became some kind of a black puddle, when heated for to long, so watch out to only slowly apply heat to your bowl.
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What was your method?
 
I've been meaning to write up my recent experiences after speaking somehow unfavorably about dissociatives in general when I last joined in on the discussion. This one has been the toughest of all to get the dosage right with, but I have finally figured out that anything past that threshold around the 30mg mark (IM/IV/rectal doesn't seem to make a huge difference) will have me black out, while 3mg less than the sweet spot might not produce the desired reaction. The desired reaction being a fucking riot!! Had a deeply mystical experience with the misses on this last night when coming off MDMA. After years and years of dissociative use these substances still hold so much spiritual value (when they do work as intended for once).
 
iRavage said:
I found it not to be worth vaping, I'd need relatively big amounts and the effects quickly fade. I only tried vaping amounts up to 14mg though, should I push it any higher? It became some kind of a black puddle, when heated for to long, so watch out to only slowly apply heat to your bowl.
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try heating it more slowly it sounds like you're burnig a lot of it
 
How long does the total duration of vaping it last?

That's the biggest turn off to this one for me (well that and the increase in tinnitus)

I still feel weirded out 12-14 hours after dosing....if I ever use this one again it will be early in the day

It is a beautiful substance...closest thing to mxe I have experienced so far...I bet a combo of this and 3-meo would be really excellent
 
I bet it would be pretty MXE-like, and even moreso if you used 3-MeO-PCE instead of 3-MeO-PCP. I realize that this doesn't mean the effects would necessarily be the same, but MXE is 2-OXO-3-MeO-PCE, which is basically o-PCE and 3-MeO-PCE combined into one drug in terms of structure. When I trialled 3-MeO-PCE I found it to feel just like a certain baseline aspect of the MXE state minus all the intense heady/trippy stuff. I haven't tried o-PCE (2-OXO-PCE) but peoples' descriptions seem to suggest it is similar to that part of MXE.
 
3-meo-pcp is pretty good in combo. 3-meo-pce was the best dissociative combo I've ever had.

I'm havin a rough time so I stupidly took drugs, 6am 15mg 2c-e. 3pm 20mg O-pce.

My skin has never felt better. Like better than mdma but mentally there a ton of loops. I can't stop thinking about what was troubling me. Anyway o-pce extended to 2 hours so def some synergistic effects.
 
Xorkoth said:
I bet it would be pretty MXE-like, and even moreso if you used 3-MeO-PCE instead of 3-MeO-PCP. I realize that this doesn't mean the effects would necessarily be the same, but MXE is 2-OXO-3-MeO-PCE, which is basically o-PCE and 3-MeO-PCE combined into one drug in terms of structure. When I trialled 3-MeO-PCE I found it to feel just like a certain baseline aspect of the MXE state minus all the intense heady/trippy stuff. I haven't tried o-PCE (2-OXO-PCE) but peoples' descriptions seem to suggest it is similar to that part of MXE.
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Yup, pretty spot on to my feelings. Got it right and it was like a better version (more self-inflation) of mxe for about 8 hours.
 
The after effects of this one (24-36h after intake) are nothing to underestimate. Honestly the best parallel I can draw is a low dose of some shitty, apocalyptic stimulant like 2-DPMP.
 
Ziiirp said:
The after effects of this one (24-36h after intake) are nothing to underestimate. Honestly the best parallel I can draw is a low dose of some shitty, apocalyptic stimulant like 2-DPMP.
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Like you get stimulant after effects that strong? Like that's the opposite of my experience. To me the speed is all peripheral
 
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