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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

It's difficult to give an exact answer to this, because most of the time LSD comes with an unknown dosage, and even if you did know the exact dose on an LSD tab, an experience varies so much from one trip to the next that you can't really do an experiment to figure out how strong 1P is vs LSD.

But I think most of us are assuming that 1P-LSD is more or less equipotent with LSD. It's possible that it could be a little bit weaker because of the extra mass of the propionyl. It's also maybe possible that it's a bit stronger because the propionyl could help it cross the blood-brain barrier. But it seems like it's pretty much the same strength as LSD.

Anyways, this is the ETH-LAD thread!
 
Good point. I took an extremely long break from psychedelics and Bluelight for that matter to focus on gradschool. I recently started to settle down in my career more and can spend more of my mental energy on myself and exploring my own interests.

I had no idea that all of these lysergamides became available for interested parties. I have been trying to decide on which lysergamides to experiment with first. Eth-LAD is on the top of that list as far as the others go. Currently though, I have ALD52 and AL-LAD coming, as they were more immediately available to me. 1p-LSD seemed to be more of a less special version of LSD from my reading.. so I opted to shuffle it to the back.

Eth-LAD is next though, and I cant wait to put my two cents on their activity. When everyone says that this guy is more 'visual' is it OEV or CEV? Are the CEVs very detailed and colorful? or more difficult to discern? How does the synesthesia compare to that of LSD? I find that LSD creates open eyed visuals, very brilliant and detailed CEVs akin to a persian carpet, pasiely, or aztec patterns, depending on the day for me. However, I get synesthesia that is a whole other level. This is like I am transported to another plane, where the music turns into these beautiful cathedral like places of intricate and impossible geometries. On enough LSD, when an album is over I cant even tell for a while that there is no music...
 
Be prepared for synthenesia on a whole other level @ beenhead. Also the visuals are different than lsd I guess more Aztecy than Persian. Cevs were more prominent for me than oevs. Oevs were hard for me to pick out. Dunno maybe that was a dosage thing.
 
I found the OEVs on ETH-LAD to be astoundingly powerful at 300ug, far more intense than on LSD, but more micro than macro (ie, on LSD I will see these large-scale perspective shifts and on ETH-LAD it was more like whatever I was looking at was coming part in fractals to the point where I couldn't even tell what I was looking at anymore). I spent my trip hiking up a river, climbing boulders and jumping across crevices, so I didn't get much time to investigate CEVs.
 
On 150µg of ETH-LAD I had the most incredible CE-vision of a 3d panoramic moving fractal thing. It was so highly detailed and defined, ornately coloured. I can still kind of picture it, but not in the detail or vividness of when I witnessed it at the time. It's incredible that such a thing could be a product of our own imagination! I wish I could take the time to try to recreate it digitally, but it would probably take years. ETH-LAD can certainly produce breathtaking CEVs.

It also was amazing for enhancing the open eye visual field at 150µg. Colours were saturated, fractal properties of plants were amplified to the max, textures, light colour all amazing. People were so beautiful too, especially my wife, but she always is.

But the visual element is just one part, I really appreciated the enhancement to music, flavour, thought, feelings. It's amazing!

You can read about my 300µg experience in this thread and my TR. That was a whole other level that I wouldn't describe as fun, rather it was rewarding and very interesting. I can't really describe the visuals for a lot of it, because I had a complete breakdown of the categories of senses/sense/perception for some time. My senses were non-sense, if that makes sense. After I snapped out of that sqrt(-1) land the OEVs were really strong, mega tracers etc. I didn't pay them much attention because I was so astounded from the previous breakdown of reality, the visuals seemed like trivial noise. But I remember raising my arms in the mirror and it producing stereotypical tracers like the thousand arms of a hindu god.

PS: I've been microdosing ETH-LAD a bit here and there, and really like it at 18.75mg (1/8 of a 150µg blotter). It's enough to put just a breath of the ETH-LAD magic on the day. I really like micro-dosing various psychedelics, but I'm very cautious about doing it chronically so I keep it to once a week or two max.
 
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I'm surprised that there are still so few TRs! Erowid only has a handful (is there a backlog?), as does BL.
Really curious to see how reports vary according to dosage (esp. in the 100-150µg range).
 
Erowid always has a tremendous backlog of reports. Last time I did any reviewing (years ago), there were well over 10,000 that hadn't been seen yet.
 
Oh wow. I recently had a TR that got published within 2 weeks after submission, so I didn't realize it was that bad!
 
What is the best way to store these blotters? I have some of these on the way and won't have time to research for some time. Any advice on the best means of storing 'em?
 
I always put my blotters inside a small, clean plastic baggie. Then I double bag that with another slightly larger baggie and lastly I'd toss those into an air-tight jar with a few silica gel packs. Kept away from any extreme heat or moisture and they outta remain the same potency for at least 2 years.
 
sean107 said:
I always put my blotters inside a small, clean plastic baggie. Then I double bag that with another slightly larger baggie and lastly I'd toss those into an air-tight jar with a few silica gel packs. Kept away from any extreme heat or moisture and they outta remain the same potency for at least 2 years.
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Room temp? This is basically how I have been storing lsd for awhile, with the talk of instablility with this one I didn't wanna take any risk.
 
Yeah I think room tempature in a drawer is probably best. A lot of people suggest putting it in the freezer but that risks exposure to moisture, even if it's double bagged and put in an airtight container.
 
Hey guys for everyone wondering about body load it is a very strange bodyload it's really amazing if you get the right dose of you get the wrong dose it's terrible
 
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Hey guys for everyone wondering about body load it is a very strange bodyload it's really amazing if you get the right dose of you get the wrong dose it's terrible
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What was the right and what was the wrong dose if you don't mind me asking?
 
Well I've only dosed at 150 µg and then at 400 µg. Beyond 400 µg is uncharted territory for me and I'm pretty sure for lots of people, I haven't seen too many reports on this. at 400 the body load was kind of heavy, but in a way not at all. I was conscious that the headspace I was in didn't pose any direct threat towards me. Physically I didn't feel like i was in any danger. Then again body load is relative. My cells were vibrating with the peaks of the drug feeling like the pulse of the universe.

I've done lots of hard drugs such as crack, heroin, and meth. Compared to the effects of an acute cocaine overdose I can't really say the body load is heavy.
 
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Hi,

I like to add my own experience with ETH-LAD and add a little warning concerning potency.

I took 3 100 mcg blotters.

I started small with only 25 mcg doses, slowly building up to 100 to test the waters of this new substance (new for me).
But the effects were minimal, so I increased my doses by 50 each time, at 200 mics the effects were definitely interesting and produced a very similar effect as LSD has on me.

Then I took 100 mics more without realizing the effect kinda come in waves, I thought the 200 microgram dose had already reached it's full potential, but apparently the effects increased a lot not long after taking the last dose, so I was in for a heavy ride, which the instant sweating of my palms and forehead already indicated.

The visuals were extremely overwhelming, everything was pixelated and ultra sharp, colors were beautiful and vivid, very LSD like, but much more intense, when I walked around the grout lines between the floor tiles jumped around just about everywhere, very bright lines made out of flickering light, I can't say I enjoyed this so much, it was pretty hyperactive.

When the last 100 mics kicked in it became too much for me, my entire view was made up from extremely detailed fine pixels, colors merged, well, everything pretty much merged at that point.
And the effects had yet to increase.

I've had bad trips before, the kind of trip that actually deserves the term "bad trip", stab wounds appearing and disappearing on my stomach, blood pouring from none existing wounds, extreme paranoia, convinced to be murdered etc, so I thought I could hold my shit together, usually when you just accept whatever happens things suddenly change and I enter a blissful state, but it just didn't happen on ETH-LAD for some reason, that's the major difference with LSD for me.

On LSD I can win the battle for sanity by accepting that I'm going insane, embracing the psychotic sinister and nocturnal episode, how difficult that may be, it usually works to get out of it.

But not with ETH-LAD for some reason, this time it felt like an extremely powerful force was throwing my sanity around like a rag doll and could do whatever it wanted, there was no escape, accepting wasn't an option at this point, I was convinced if I'd let go now that my destiny would be sealed.Cid Barrett came to mind at that point.

Then the noises accompanied the already psychotic nature of the trip, very high pitched increasing and decreasing in volume, exactly what I needed to complete an already completely fucked up state of mind, this was madness in it's purest form, at this point I could very well understand how people lose it forever.

It was so intense that I'd thrown up at least 3 times, which was an interesting experience on it's own since the toilet got clogged as well, just perfect.
I'll be kind and spare you the details though, I'll just say that I was surprised at how the toilet looked in the morning, it looked a lot worse the night before, in my mind at least.

After the effects finally subsided and I regained my sanity I had some mild insights and some rather disturbing closed eyed visuals of hybrid demon-alien male-female like creatures copulating with themselves, but that probably says more about myself than the substance.

The next day was great, I felt hungover till noon, I also didn't sleep more than 4 hours, but the rest of the day was great, sunny day, long walk on the beach with my wife, a nice afterglow, and a fresh appreciation for life, and sanity.

Thanks for reading, just be careful and know that unlike LSD, the effects of ETH-LAD do come in waves and 300 mics have different effects for different people, for me it was too intense.Maybe on another day I might've reacted differently, but not that day.


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I had no tolerance what so ever, it's been 5 years since I last used LSD and a month since I last used mushrooms and DMT.
 
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mescaphysicality94 said:
What was the right and what was the wrong dose if you don't mind me asking?
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That's going to depend on the person. For BlueMerlin ^ and myself, 300µg was way too much. I also experienced vomiting at 300µg, and a complete breakdown of reality/perception. I've been following this thread intensely since the beginning, and in my strong opinion, anyone trying ETH-LAD for the first time should start low (100-150µg) and on subsequent trips work your way up (if you want to go higher) in small increments, as ETH-LAD has a steep dosage curve, is extremely potent, and has a dosage limit that is much lower than LSD.

There are people in this thread who've gone up to 450µg and I think even higher, but those doses should be regarded as the exception rather than the rule or the norm. Don't kid yourself, ETH-LAD is some extremely potent shit that *will* spank you if you go too high.

150µg for me was the *perfect* dose. I will try it next at 100µg or 200µg.

At 150µg the body feeling was blissful, warm, comfortable, almost like an empathogen. And the metal effects were superb.

A recurring theme in the ETH-LAD reports is this two-phase or tiered comeup, where a second plateau seems to hit around 2h(?). So be aware of that too.
 
I wholeheartedly agree, it will punish you, even though it might be "easier" to handle than LSD in the opinion of many people, I failed to get control over it, even letting go and accepting was not an option this time, I felt that if I'd let go I'd lost a battle and they could come pick me up with an ambulance, I don't want to scare people off, not at all, the 200mcg dose felt amazing, but somehow I wanted to go deeper, which I definitely did, and I almost ate 50mcg more without realizing there was more madness to come, a lot more.
If I'd done that it would've pushed me over the edge.

The problem for me was that I assumed the previous hits already had taken full effect, but there comes another wave of intensity after about 40 minutes after the first one hits, which might be the case for different people as well.

edit: sorry, I missed the last part of your post Perpetualdawn.
 
That's exactly why I like to push my Eth-lad doses with 1p-LSD. It's a much smoother ride. Now that I have my hands on on argue sunshine and 100ug tabs of Eth, I am looking forward to trying out that combo. Thinking maybe 200ug with 125ug of Ald-52 thrown in.
 
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