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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

perpetualdawn said:
It sounds like momjrr and the shadow self are handling much higher doses than this, but I would caution others following the thread and making their own decisions on dose to start really low.

I'll probably never take 300µg of ETH-LAD again, if I want to push the dose again, next time I'll go with 225µg. I'm now curious to explore doses in the range of 50-100µg.
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I wouldn't say I managed on 750, more like I survived it :)

450 was stupidly intense on the come up, it was actually very similar to peaking on 750. But once 450 peaked for me it really levelled out, I had a ton of effects but the head was rather clear and everything was just great. Could be a set/setting thing. I haven't tripped for a good while, I'm saving myself for either a good 500 of LSD or another go at 450 on ETH-LAD.
 
Does anyone know of receptor binding data for ETH-LAD?

The Shadow Self said:
For anyone griping about others taking what they consider unreasonably high doses of compounds, remember that we are all different. I have always taken larger doses of all psychedelics. ...
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I hope I didn't come off as griping because that definitely was not my sentiment. I have no problem with others taking what I consider to be unreasonably high doses of compounds (at least when it comes to these ones like lysergemides that are pretty safe physically. Stupid doses of more dangerous compounds like NBOMe should obviously be heavily discouraged).

I just wanted to add to the voice that you can't judge what is a "normal" dose of a psychedelic by averaging the doses that people report here on Bluelight. This is because, IMO there are a lot of heavy hitters on here that need/prefer much higher doses than what the average person in the wild would want to go for. Just saying that the people such as yourself and others who routinely dose 5x as much as what might be otherwise called normal, throws off the average for someone naively coming on here and trying to figure out for them self how much to dose.

I guess the message is one we all agree on, the same motto as on erowid and stuff: know your self, know your source, know your dose. Start very very low, titrate up slowly.

momjrr said:
I wouldn't say I managed on 750, more like I survived it
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I'm glad you did. It's astounding to me that you consumed 2.5x the dose that turned my mind completely turned inside out. I actually cant fathom what that would be like. I think 750µg would probably give me a psychedelic blackout. I'm really curious if the difference between people like you and I is a difference in sensitivities, of if you are just way better at navigating the psychedelic state than I am. It seems like an unanswerable question.
 
Over the course of my psychedelic "career", I went from being pretty sensitive and needing lower doses than most, to being a hardhead. I can say that in my case, it's because of 2 factors, both introduced because I went through a period of tripping way too often (multiple times a week for years). I also trip 2-3 times a month these days. I feel that I got some sort of perma-tolerance, where my baseline is just higher now, because of mashing my receptors so steadily for so long. Besides that, I have a behavioral tolerance to them, that is, I just know what to expect so much more. When I trip, it rarely really throws me off balance, so I am able to act and feel more normal on them. In some ways I like this, and in some ways I wish I could still easily blow my head open sometimes.
 
Well, I think tonight is going to be the night I sample my first 150ug of ETH-LAD. I'll most likely be posting on Swirly Talk tonight. :)

Edit: Didn't happen (won't happen tonight)... obliged the ex and took the kids for the night -- fun night at the skating rink and now a sleepover. Oh well. Tomorrow's my last chance or I'll have to wait yet another week! lol
 
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I hear ya, perpetual dawn. I wasn't griping about your griping...;) And yeah...I agree that hard-heads do throw things off for those that don't read entire threads. And yes...titrating is very important. I, being the sometimes reckless dude that I am, jump in the deep end. I guess that for better or worse, some of us are the bungy-jumpers of the psychedelic world. And I also agree that things like Nbomes are something that are not to be treated the same way as things like Lysergamides, which tend to be far safer, by comparison. It's exactly why I only did Nbomes a few times and didn't like feeling like I was poisoning myself, which is exactly the way they made me feel. But anyway...point duly noted.
 
boti420 said:
Same here, people taking 80mg 2c-e!!! Thats fucking insane, or 450mcg of eth-lad/al-lad/lsd-whatever is also kinda unwarranted. I've done some high dose experiments myself in my younger days, but now with so many trips under my belt maybe its that I can get the full effects and everything I want from a trip a a "regular" dose, not these crazy high doses. Whenever i heard anyone say they've had a mystical experience on 80fuckinMG of 2C-E it just blows my mind!!! Thats borderline abuse, there is no reason whatsoever to tke such a high dose, if you can't achieve a full ++++ experience on say 30mg 2C-E then your doing something incredibly wrong. I mean can you even remember anything whatsoever from 80mg?? How can you even function in any matter whatsoever, like walk, or not shit your pants just cause you have no concept or feeling of defecation?? 2C-E is just one example I'm using here, but i see it with all psychedelics, 120mg DMT vaporized, thats another crazy one, i've gotten full on breakthoughts where I literally thought I was dead and these beings where working on my body and comforting me, and I had no clue whatsoever that I've even ingested any sort of drug, no clue as to anything that existed prior to that moment I was in, and this was on 45mg vaporized completely in one toke from a globe. Next time i'm going for 30mg hahah. Maybe:)
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boti another crazy one is 5meo-DMT.....one tryptamine I didn't really care for.(sort of scared the crap out of myself) Not sure where this stuff t00k me...perceptible energy/entity/? were moving in my body. Couldn't play video games with this stuff either.....coming down was like re-entering this dimension from another one. Comparing tryptamines to lysergemides is like the apples and oranges analogy of course IMHO.
 
I had the single most visually intense experience of my life on 300ug on Saturday.

OEVs so intense I was effectively incapacitated for 3 hours of the trip. Never experienced such powerful visuals before.
 
veodo said:
haha loool


ok so, why ther isn't any pictures from eth lad blotters?
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There are lots when you google image search eth-lad. Here are some I took for a post on shroomery

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I like ETH-LAD better than AL-LAD. 150 mics was crazy visual. I might only do 75 next time
 
bigazz - ETH-LAD is *really* strong, so if you're thinking about 3-4 tabs, make sure you try it at 1 and then 2 tabs before you try 3 then 4. I can't remember if you've already tried it at lower doses or not, just want to reiterate how powerful this stuff is. Don't underestimate it. Some people are taking it to 3 or 4 on here for sure, but for myself I can't see ever going over 2.

For me, one tab was probably the most incredible CEV I've ever experienced, at 2 tabs there were no "visuals" for a lot of it, it was full blown synaesthasia where visuals weren't even a thing.
 
Interestingly, after experiencing ETH-LAD, I decided to look into AL-LAD again, as I felt my AL-LAD experiences were more gratifying--better visuals, lovelier colors, less stimulation and more emotional. ETH-LAD is still a great substance, and I'm looking forward to doing it again, and I want to contrast and compare without 1.5 years in between the two.
 
yes perretual dawn i have tried this before once at 150 once at 300. i have one of the first trip reports on page one at 150, which was nice not underwhelming but nice chilled mood. the other time i took two at a phish show and felt good but i also took a geltab of real lsd 3 hours into the trip.i was thinking of thing from other people points of view during the whole trip which was intersting and had a ton of thought loops. it does remind me so much of lsd, when you smoke weed on lsd it feels incredible you get amazing weed visuals which are superpb. but when i took two i smoked a bowl while the tabs where still in my mouth and that might have desroyed the potency. i dont understand how you get visuals off 150 but not 300? viuals have to be a thing right? unless you are just smelling colors or feeling colors etc.
i just wonder if this is truley more potent than lsd as wiki says. i thought that 6 alkyl analouges were less potent. like al lad and pro lad
 
Personally I find I have (and have always had, even before tripping more than a few total times ever) a strong natural tolerance or hardheadedness to lysergamides. For example, 300ug of AL-LAD is not strong for me, at 450ug it gets good. For LSD, I have some strong tabs that friends will only take 1 or 2 of... I took 2 recently and had a very nice trip but it didn't even push into visual territory. So when I get a chance to try ETH-LAD (soon :)), I am going to take it at 300ug. If it's surprisingly strong, I'll be glad. :)
 
Been a month and a half since my last adventure with Eth-lad. Today it's going to be 150ug Eth-lad with 100ug 1p-LSD. Let's see how this combo fares.

1:00pm-2pm drink a couple of lite beers, shower, get my crystals ready, get dressed in my comfortable tripping clothes. I have some really cool necklaces I got in Icitos Peru, I put them over my neck, as is my tradition before every trip. Apply essential oils. Getting my mind and soul ready. Listening to some grateful dead.

2pm ingest tabs. Row Jimmy Row


2:20 strap the headphones on and meditate to this great great track on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/8zjIzJn2LwA


2:40 definately off baseline, but the total lack of anxiety has really caught me by surprise. Nice clean smooth come up. Feeling good.

3 pm feeling great laughing in joy!!! This is exactly what I was looking for!!! Outstanding combination.

soooo smooth.


327 I have so much love in this little heart

and I cry and laugh

Txting peoople I love them out of nowhere in the middle of the day

lol
If anything changes from awesome visuals, great music... And love I will let you know...

but this this is a great combo.
 
Bigazznugz said:
i dont understand how you get visuals off 150 but not 300? viuals have to be a thing right? unless you are just smelling colors or feeling colors etc.
i just wonder if this is truley more potent than lsd as wiki says. i thought that 6 alkyl analouges were less potent. like al lad and pro lad
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At 300µg it was like visuals weren't even a thing. I don't know how to explain that. I guess what I mean is that vision wasn't even a thing, like my sensory data was all scrambled, I couldn't see.. well that's not completely true because when I set my mind to it I managed to snap out of it a bit and get myself down the stairs for example.. but it took a big effort to turn my sensory information into something I could understand. After making an effort of understanding the outside world, it was easiest to just surrender to the utter psychedelia that I can't really explain in terms of visuals or sound or body feeling or thought, because it was like all of those things simultaneously and inseparably.

I really think ETH-LAD is more potent than LSD, but I really need to test out and compare it to 1P-LSD, because I've never known for sure my dosages with LSD, and I can't see ever knowing LSD dosages for sure, until it gets legalized.
 
Had this better side effects profile than lsd? Lsd come up come with very hot flushes, anxiety, feel forceful, sweating and some sort of "dizziness" blurry and heavy head sensation, and at the end of the trip I noted GI distrubances with all lysergamides, but specially with lsd and al-lad (but al-lad had a very much better side effects and prefer to lsd, no hot flushes, dizziness, very lucid, anxiety free, etc). 1p-lsd is somewhat in the middle, more tolerable than lsd for me but more agressive than al-lad. Thanks! I understand that is difficult question because the idiosincrasy of everyone.
 
Hawk-o would you care to share what your experience was like ? Live report tripping is never very conclusive or coherent.
 
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