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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

300ug was perfect for me. Easily a solid +++.

Due to bodyload concerns, I don't think I will push this one higher.
 
Is it one of those ripping your mind in half body loads?? Cause while I find that euphoric it can be very uncomfortable as well
 
Stability/storage/ETH_LAD

Now, I've always heard of how "unstable" these compounds can be, and I am going to go out on a limb and bet that ETH stores, if properly done, pretty well. I have had AL-LAD, LSZ, and LSD stored (the L being the oldest at 3+years), and I can't seem to feel any lessening of potency, or if so, barely at all. FOr example, I've been busting out AL that I bought in 2013 lately and tripping my nuts off (I take between 450-600, as I always have) and it's crushing me nicely. I've always been a hard-head and don't like "minor" trips, so I always shoot high. Same with the LSZ. The L, which I believe to be 100ug paper, is working great. Now, I am a stickler and use methods described on this board to store these chems (dessicants, O2 absorbers, no light, purged with argon, and in glass viles stored WITHIN another air-tight container, and all the above are seemingly fine. So...I just bought 50 blotters of ETH-LAD and plan on doing the same. And, I bet that they'll be fine. Like I said...over two years for the "fragile" AL and LSZ, and they are fine. I like my psychedelics, and I like to have them around, so that's what I do.
 
I was wondering Momjrr; What do you mean this doesn't have the push to "pull you over the edge" ? From your post I gathered that this one leaves, even at high doses, your ego more or less intact, which I guess can be a good thing as it allows you to stay more functional, but does that means that it also lacks in "depth" ? It's actually hard to explain accurately what I'm talking about, but did you feel that ETH-LAD didn't give you profound feelings/altered thoughts/headspace/perspective shiftes like LSD does ???

I'm not sure if I want to get this one. A lot of people are saying they prefer it to LSD, but also I have read a couple of posts arguing that this lacks in "headspace" , someone even said it had less headspace than AL-LAD. And what I like the most of LSD is the deep mental effect is has, so if this one is just insane visuals and body-high maybe its not the one for me. But it also could be that I'm reading it all wrong. After all, when describing psychedelics we are talking about things normal language doesn't allow to describe correctly. So correct me if I'm wrong, but from this thread I have concluded that ETH-LAD is mostly light on the mind.
 
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It's hard to say absolutely about things like headspace, and bodyload because these terms mean a lot of different things to different people.

Nonetheless, I would say that AL-LAD has a "lighter" headspace than LSD. I wouldn't say it has less headspace than LSD, because it can still have a shit ton of headspace, just that it's a lot more happy-go-lucky, carefree than LSD (to me).

As for ETH-LAD, to me, definitely has it's own flavour of headspace, and a lot of it. I would put the flavour of this headspace somewhere between AL-LAD and LSD. It's a bit lighter than LSD (METH-LAD!) and a bit heavier than AL-LAD. But at the same time it does have it's own unique flavour that is hard to put into words. If we could plot the headspace of these three molecules on some kind of 2-D space, they would form a triangle.

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I just want to chime in to caution ppl about taking too much of this as it is extremely potent material. Trip report forthcoming whereupon this psychonaught turns his mind inside-out on 300ug.

^^ Sweet Lady NBOMe: dunno, maybe you took to much, or weren't prepared? Try taking half as much next time, and before you dose make sure you're ready.
 
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I'll have something to contribute later on after I get my head screwed back on properly. I recently acquired a bunch of ETH-LAD, and decided to drop 450 ug right out if the chute, and no, I don't recommend taking such a high dose before allergy testing, but I've been taking either AL or 1P each weekend for about 6 weeks, so my tolerance was high, and I'll be damned if I just didn't get a good a proper ass kicking, even cutting through my high tolerance. Seems more potent than AL, for sure, and last LONG. Without benzos, you'd be up for WAY past the 12 hour mark. This one's got a rough come up...not too bad, but seems to be one that doesn't just "settle in", and it seems like you are in purgatory for about an hour or so before things settle down. I can see many people reaching for the benzos during this come up, because it's challenging. Anyway....more later. It's real, it's different than AL with some similarities, and it's really nothing like actual LSD, just like all the other lysergamides, in my opinion, share very little with L. I'll be back later when I can think straight and give more.
 
I find Eth-Lad to be very potent and perfectly dosed... You don't really want to take more then one of these bad boys for a first try! It will rock your world...
I know when i first tried 2c-e i took 20mg and it blew me out of the water... Out of personnel safety, I recommend anyone trying any thing new in the RC scene to allergy test and then under dose it, just to get a feel for it...

Eth lad is to me a step up from LSD of the 60's. The spiritual growth and awareness that people in the 60's, 70's etc... found in LSD.. I understand that not everyone takes psychedelics in the way i use them nor believes the same as each other... or understands intent before a journey...
 
Yes...it's potent, all right. I look forward to taking a break from tripping for a bit and having a go with it again. And, I have another 50 on the way. But yeah...I would have taken at least 300 either way. I know everyone's different, but I had good reason to believe that I was getting what I was getting because I deal with the same lab who is totally reliable, so for better or worse, I rarely do allergy tests. Even when I got AL-LAD for the first time, I took 300. But I am a hard head, and low doses tend to not do much for me. Even with LSD, I always took 2 to 3 hits to others one because I wanted to go deep. But yeah...I am not recommending anyone go against safety protocol. And by the way...interesting that these ETH hits has a slight bitter, metallic taste. NOT Nbome type bitter, just a little bit bitter. Just an FYI. As for it being like or similar to LSD...so far, I find few similarities. In fact, I was surprised at the relative lack of headspace, even at a high dose. I expected to be lost, but I was always very aware, almost too aware. In fact, on 600 ug of AL-LAD, I tend to be almost blacked out and in another space altogether. I had little to no COVs and I was disappointed at how music was not enahnced in a profound way, like i expected. I always listen to headphones when I trip, and I expect to be shot into the abyss when I take psychs, so we'll see. I expect a mystical experience, which I was disappointed not to even approach. ANd even with like 600 of AL, your world will get fucked up good, and while not as mystical as other compounds, it can get you there, just with higher doses than most will take. My standard dose of AL-LAD is 600, though. Anyway, could have something to do with tolerance right now. ANd again...this stuff has legs. For those looking for a 6 hour deal like with AL, forget it. With ETH LAD, you are in for a LONG trip. I'll be taking mine at around mid-day next time so I can get some sleep. I had to take about 5 mg of Etiz to get to sleep last night, and that was 4:30 am. I took it at 3:00 pm. But alas...after break, I'll try more. I am lucky enough to have plenty...while it's around.
 
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I was wondering Momjrr; What do you mean this doesn't have the push to "pull you over the edge" ? From your post I gathered that this one leaves, even at high doses, your ego more or less intact, which I guess can be a good thing as it allows you to stay more functional, but does that means that it also lacks in "depth" ? It's actually hard to explain accurately what I'm talking about, but did you feel that ETH-LAD didn't give you profound feelings/altered thoughts/headspace/perspective shiftes like LSD does ???

I'm not sure if I want to get this one. A lot of people are saying they prefer it to LSD, but also I have read a couple of posts arguing that this lacks in "headspace" , someone even said it had less headspace than AL-LAD. And what I like the most of LSD is the deep mental effect is has, so if this one is just insane visuals and body-high maybe its not the one for me. But it also could be that I'm reading it all wrong. After all, when describing psychedelics we are talking about things normal language doesn't allow to describe correctly. So correct me if I'm wrong, but from this thread I have concluded that ETH-LAD is mostly light on the mind.
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I'll try to explain, but this was only relevant for a 750ug dose, not even a 450 ug dose.

It is every bit as deep as LSD, it may even be deeper. But when you go that deep, you're not supposed to be as clear headed as you are on ETH-LAD. With the effects I had on 750ug, you are supposed to be melted away without an ego. LSD at that dosage would do it, you don't have to fight it because you forget what fighting is. On ETH-LAD the effects are just too strong at this dosage, to still be fully functional. There's no way to just relax into it and become one with it.

I think on page 2 I posted about taking 450ug, very very very deep & amazing.

Although I've found adding a tab of ETH-LAD to an LSD trip does wonders for it, improves everything you could ever want improved.
 
Personally, it was so light on my mind at 450 that I could have gone shopping at the mall. The visuals were there, and I was clearly tripping. Pretty hard. Again, tolerance might have me currently, but the weekend before 600 of AL-LAD had me nearly blackout out, yet conscious, forgetting who or where I was for a good hour, then when the music stopped, it startled me. While I was "out", the music I was listening too had my mind concocting stories totally unrelated to the music, and were very dream-like. That's what I look for in my trips...the ability to totally be outside myself, which is why LSD at high doses will never be replaced, at least for me, for a transcendent experience. It has world-changing power that I love, and I've never tried anything that's come even close, except DMT, which is a whole different animal.
 
It depends how you look at it. It's clear headed that's for sure, but that doesn't mean you can't and won't have deep thoughts and a change of perspective with it. On 450 was the only time I've ever actually felt like "part of a spirit world" which is not something I aim for.

What I did love about doing 450 was how I could go out to the park (I live in a very busy/touristy city) and enjoy extremely powerful visuals in a somewhat natural setting, I can't do that with LSD, certainly not to that level. And of course, feeling completely at one with that nature.
 
is there anyone here from the UK who;s had the chance to partake in this compound and if so , seeing its illegal im guessing it was from the deep web, my question is did it come on the eth-lad printed blotters or had someone blotted their own from powder, if the latter , was it definitely eth-lad?
 
I just submitted a trip report here:

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/768503-(ETH-LAD-300µg)-Experienced-Turned-Inside-Out

300µg of ETH-LAD completely disassembled my mind and turned it inside out. In my 20+ years of tripping I've never experienced this depth of trip, and I can't say it was a pleasant experience. Be careful with this one, I now think it's a lot more potent than LSD.

It sounds like momjrr and the shadow self are handling much higher doses than this, but I would caution others following the thread and making their own decisions on dose to start really low.

I'll probably never take 300µg of ETH-LAD again, if I want to push the dose again, next time I'll go with 225µg. I'm now curious to explore doses in the range of 50-100µg.

ETH-LAD is a POWERHOUSE!!

(edit: to re-iterate, I think 150µg is the perfect dose for this)
 
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perpetualdawn said:
I just submitted a trip report here:

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/768503-(ETH-LAD-300µg)-Experienced-Turned-Inside-Out

300µg of ETH-LAD completely disassembled my mind and turned it inside out. In my 20+ years of tripping I've never experienced this depth of trip, and I can't say it was a pleasant experience. Be careful with this one, I now think it's a lot more potent than LSD.

It sounds like momjrr and the shadow self are handling much higher doses than this, but I would caution others following the thread and making their own decisions on dose to start really low.

I'll probably never take 300µg of ETH-LAD again, if I want to push the dose again, next time I'll go with 225µg. I'm now curious to explore doses in the range of 50-100µg.

ETH-LAD is a POWERHOUSE!!
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Dang PD! That was a heck of a report!! I also usually trip, solo, so I know that feeling when things start to unravel and you have no one to help smooth it out. Sometimes maybe that can be a good thing though, I guess. Thank you for the report!! I was thinking today that maybe 225 would be a nice dose. 150 was good and I agree 300 can get pretty intense.
 
I had a big half of the 150 ug blotters this weekend, so probably about 80-85 ug. I was going to be in a social setting, so i chose to dose low due to Yaesutoms strong experience from one blotter, and I'm glad I didn't dose higher. To me this seems to be equipotent with LSD, or maybe even slightly stronger.

I hadn't expected to feel a difference to LSD at that dose, but I did. It was a bit halfway between LSD and AL-LAD in effects, in that it reminded me of both. But I liked it better than AL-LAD for sure, which is quickly becoming the least favoured lysergamide in my book. Duration was like LSD by the way.

Anyway, yeah, it was nice, so I'll clearly be doing it again :)
 
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