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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOM Thread

I agree - I find it somewhat less potent but certainly more potent than much older literature says. I believe the idea that it requires ~10-15mg to trip comes from when it was circulated as STP, in the 60's I believe, and it was produced as 15mg doses. I took 10mg my first real trial with it and was totally overwhelmed... I was fine but couldn't make use of it... it was too chaotic, with memory loss.

Merging with the DOM thread... this could be a good discussion.
 
I got an amount of DOM a while ago.

It isn't something I dose regularly at all -- I save it for festivals and stuff.

Yeah - if it's your first time, dont take more than 7mg. But for people who like to trip VERY HARD, 15mg can be quite an experience.

The dose is 3-15mg, I would say. 15mg is a HIGH dose, probably equal in intensity to 800-900mcg of LSD, but it lasts much longer and does not feel like LSD.
 
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ive said it previously in this thread but you can get distinct threshold effects at 350mcg of DOM, that said im really looking foreword to my first high(er) dose DOM trip. i think ill take about 7mg and pretreat with methaqualone or oral ketamine to lesson the muscle tension...
 
At higher dosages of DOM ketamine does absolutely fuck all to ease anything, so I'm informed anyway !

If you're gonna take DOM at proper psychedelic dosages stick a handful of benzos in your poket - just in case ;)
 
I just sampled ~10mg DOM the other day for my first time with the substance. I've tripped many times on a number of substances, and I also am a little less sensitive than the average person to phenethylamines (or so it seems).

Given those things, this dose was right where I wanted to be. It was strong, and there were a few moments where I had to grab a hold of my mind when I was first hitting the peak, but overall it was great. The closed eye visuals were fantastic, the open eye were pretty good, and it induced a lot of thinking about meaningful and also humorous things (which I appreciate a lot in tripping).

The main downside was that my body was never quite comfortable. I didn't have the shitty, nauseous come-up that often happens with 2c-e and other phens, but I also didn't achieve physical pleasure or comfort for any of the trip. I could feel the amphetamine component of the drug the way others have described from higher doses, and this manifested as an elevated pulse rate and as a somewhat manic mindset, with thoughts and sensations going fast and intense. Though the pulse seemed like not a very a good sign, I wasn't ever worried outright about my well being, and the manic mindset was mostly fine or good (not radically different from the way acid can be kind of manic)

As for similar chems, I've used 2c-e a good deal, also 2c-i, 2c-b, 2c-t-7, DOC. Of all substances used I found DOM to most resemble 2c-e, though it also reminded me of acid too. In fact, a good way to describe DOM might be as somewhere between 2c-e and acid, but stretched out in duration a bit.
 
DOM to 2C-E is a good comparison to make; DOM being alpha-methyl-2C-E.
 
^ DOM is actually alpha-methyl-2C-D, alpha-methyl-2C-E would be DOET.
 
anyone know what DOM would be like in a rave situation, it seems to be one of a very few options for a rave tonight and was wondering what dose to take, that is even if it is worth taking it at a rave
 
Not sure I'd give it a go at a Rave, unless it was my absolute only option. having said that, its duration suits that situation. And there will be something to do with all the energy that it causes - ie dancing. I'd maybe try a 5mg dose if I were in your shoes. Your mileage may vary. Have a good dance - Pipp.
 
I probably wouldn't mix it with anything, because the DOM will last for a very long time. The MDMA will wear off 14 hours before your DOM is done, leaving you with the comedown from MDMA, plus a long (probably slightly boring because your DOM dose is low because you mixed it) stimulated tail end where sleep is impossible.
 
Please do not take DOM at a rave, at any dose. This one requires much more focus and humility than you can provide in a party situation. It is fucking serious. And it takes great delight in punishing careless psychonauts...
 
I've been experimenting with DOM a good bit recently, having stumbled upon a bit of it. I'm finding even 3-4mg to be quite psychedelic indeed, and quite comfortable at that dose. One of these days I'll try to push it a good bit higher. I've actually had 13mg before but at the time I was using way too many psychedelics and didn't yet have the feel for DOM... it was far too intense to make any use of and I basically sat there all day lost in swirls and emotions.
 
Woah, shit. After reading some of these trip reports I start to see why some of my experiences weren't exactly picture perfect. I've probably done DOM between 5-10 times orally and the lowest dose I ever took was 17mg, with the highest being 24 mg (done twice with varied results) and the standard dose I used was 20 mg. I want to write my crazy 24 mg trip report but I don't really want leave out any good details so I'm going to sit on it for a bit, though it sounds strangely similar to what skyline142 said. I know for one thing that I was outwardly unconscious, though my mind was still going, for quite a while and unable to speak for even longer. All I'll say for now is that DOM is not for the faint scrotumed, as even the tiniest little thing can turn a happy time into the darkest most evil experience ever.
 
That was pretty much the average dose people were taking of DOM when we had it. I tripped with two people different people when I took 20mg, one of them had only done salvia and he took 18mg, was fine, while the other took 16 mg and he freaked out, because regular fraternity weekend nights are too sketch when youre on DOM. I always felt like we were going to get in so much trouble for all the bullshit that happened. Another brother in my house took DOM on 4 seperate occasions reducing the dose each time and every time he ended up with no shirt, locked in his room, and listening to hallucinogen and other music.

Sometimes I was pretty functional whilst on DOM, even on 24 mg with tolerance from my first time doing it ever with 20 mg two days before, I was able to play a paddle game, probably due to the fact that I saw the entire flight path of the ping pong ball in trails. The best part being looking down a cup of beer and drinking it. Beer foam looks fucking sick on DOM. It was the next time I did 24mg with no tolerance that I completely passed out.
 
My opinion:DOM is not a true psychedelic.

Sure it's psychedelic in ways, but it's not mind expanding like mushrooms, LSD or peyote.

It's like an amphetamine high with mediocre visuals, even at high doses it's still mediocre. the visuals are the same but they move faster, i fucking hate this drug :!
 
Whats a high dose of DOM to you? Personally I don't know quite what what you mean by mind expanding, could you explain that specific quality in more detail? I for one have not found a hallucinogen or any drug with more powerful influence over my mental state, and I've done a reasonable variety of them. Not only that, nothing even came close to the visual symphony I would get with DOM. I clearly remember that when on 20 mg, the visuals were so intense that I could barely discern the between the background image and my friend standing 10-15 feet away. The only reason I knew he was there was because of the white/gray plaid pattern on his hoodie, he was nothing but a small portion of floating hoodie. If I looked at the same spot for a bit, the depth perception disappeared completely and it looked like i was living in a photograph of reality, that was ridiculously distorted in almost strictly vertical and horizontal lines. Not only that but red and purple hues seemed to appear in everything. It was two in the morning and the auditory hallucinations made it seem like i was standing next to a freeway, next to planes taking off, and that every light buzzed intensely. In a negative sense, I also felt methed out. It was weird to watch people move because it seemed like my eyes would drop frames, so any quick minor displacements resulted in what looked like instantaneous travel. Cats for example, which seem to only move that way, are absolutely intense, their meows, their walk, everything. Large displacement result in discrete trails where I would see a perfect series of images instead of a smooth blur. Everything also appeared to take on a satin like wet appearance, which would at first appear on all surfaces, but like I said, looking at the same spot kind of just caused the image to glaze over in 2D, appearing picture like. As for mental effects, I'll go into that later. But I don't see how you can consider DOM to not be a true psychedelic with those sorts of effects. Maybe it just doesn't work for you, but for me, its a deep down and dirty feeling trip that so far remains unapproached in intensity by other things.
 
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