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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOM Thread

I didn't really find DOB more euphoric and pleasurable than the 2C-X compounds that I've tried. It was only 'ok'. But I've heard that DOC is very euphoric and good.
Never had DOM yet.
I don't find 2C-T-X compounds euphoric in the same way as 2C-D. I find the alkyls more stable and neutral emotionally but 2C-D was pleasant / euphoric in a stimmy sort of way. More like dopamine reuptake inhibition maybe (which would also explain nootropic potential). With 2C-T's it felt much more warm, glowing and mellow like serotonergic effects. I am just mentioning this to illustrate the contrast.
Anyway I personally would not expect DOM to be warm and empathogenic but instead pleasant in the 2C-D way I just described, only with more pronounced amphetaminergic effects of course.

(This is borderline off-topic, if you want to take it further I would ask of you to use that 'favorite empathogenic psychedelic' thread of yours for the comparison you'd like to investigate)
 
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I merely would like to note that even at 5 milligrams i found DOM to be a thoroughly psyche-scrubbing experience. It would be fair to say I got my ass kicked. DOM has the intense visual acuity and ultra-fast hallucinogenic framerate of LSD compounded with the confusing, recursive mindfuck and somatic heaviness of tryptamines. It is indeed a ferociously powerful and beautiful chemical. I say 5 milligrams is too aggressive a starting dose as someone who prefers psilocybe cyanescens at 3.5 grams dried or more. Start low.
 
I'm gonna have to try DOM again now that I don't have a tolerance that resides in the stratosphere. Even at the time that I tried it a number of times, I could still get extremely powerful DOC trips, but my DOM trips (even up to 10mg) were all pretty underwhelming.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm gonna have to try DOM again now that I don't have a tolerance that resides in the stratosphere. Even at the time that I tried it a number of times, I could still get extremely powerful DOC trips, but my DOM trips (even up to 10mg) were all pretty underwhelming.
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It's exactly the cognitive effects of DOM that typify the elements of the psychedelic experience I gain tolerance to the fastest. Highly lucid and visual phenethylamines like DOC can still have most of their effect after multiweekly use, but the strongly cognitive, "mind-manifesting on mind-manifesting" chemicals like 2C-E, 4-HO-DMT, and DOM require breaks of a month or more for me to get the full spectrum. Whether because this partly depends on a psychological sense of novelty, or on receptor systems other than central 5-HT2a which might have less elasticity, I can't say.
 
That makes sense, its true that a lot of DOC's effect for me comes from the visuals and even moreso the emotions, rather than the cognitive aspects.
 
http://www.psymposia.com

^I'm currently watching the history of arylcyclohexylamines.

turns out 3-meo-PCP binds pretty well at the D4 receptor. LSD is a full agonist at the D4 receptor, I wonder how crazy that combo would be.
 
SONN said:
http://www.psymposia.com

^I'm currently watching the history of arylcyclohexylamines.

turns out 3-meo-PCP binds pretty well at the D4 receptor. LSD is a full agonist at the D4 receptor, I wonder how crazy that combo would be.
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Holy crabapple I suspect I will be doing this tonight, since Fatima (my mysterious and beautiful cousin from the Arabian Empty Quarter) is bringing some acid and DMT, and my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who can get the 3meopcp so some crazy cousin fantasy's are gonna happen I know it!

Re: earlier posts by VoiceoftheTurtle...yeah man. 4mg DOM was only ++ at the peak but even at that level I understood for the first time in over 20 years of trippin' what a psychotomimetic drug was. DOM was that. Never again for me.
 
SONN said:
http://www.psymposia.com

^I'm currently watching the history of arylcyclohexylamines.

turns out 3-meo-PCP binds pretty well at the D4 receptor. LSD is a full agonist at the D4 receptor, I wonder how crazy that combo would be.
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LSD and 3-MeO-PCP was pretty puerile insanity to the point it where everything seems mashed together and the only sane thought you could have would be about how insane you currently were. Though they sparkle BRIGHT as fuck on low doses of each or a moderate LSD dose with a low dose 3-MeO-PCP.

Will be waiting for the report eagerly, brother! DOM is one of the few things I actively seek so getting an MGS report, as well as a Xork report. I hate to say that I know DOM and I would play well together but after using DOC without problems, I figure DOM shouldn't be that much more classically stimulating than DOC was, though psychedelic stimulation is a difficult one(im the sort that crawls the walls with caffeine though...).

Edit: Proceed with absolute caution, this combo caused a strange "blackout" where I wasn't...."in control" of what I was doing or choosing to do. For instance, I know I hopped about on my bed for fifteen or maybe thirty minutes as I can't remember it exactly but I had some delusion that jumping up and down on my bed was causing or doing something. Was obviously totally worthless and I'm god damn lucky the craziest thing I did was chose to hop on my bed. Shit tired me out too as I'm pretty sure the power of the jump was important to whatever crazed theory I was telling myself. I have done combos of four different psychedelics in tune with MXE or DMT or n2o, but the addition, alone as well, of a pin heads worth of powder almost caused some real trouble!
 
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DOM is actually lighter on the body than DOC is... maybe more stimulating, but clean-feeling. DOC is rather relaxing but has something of a bodyload. DOM felt very light indeed on my body.
 
Xorkoth said:
DOM is actually lighter on the body than DOC is... maybe more stimulating, but clean-feeling. DOC is rather relaxing but has something of a bodyload. DOM felt very light indeed on my body.
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I've heard this said but I seem to interpret effects, especially of things like psychedelics a bit differently. Like I hear most people use the word "agony" to describe 2c-E's bodily sensations.....,me? Ecstasy, bliss, sexy, are the sort of words I'd use to describe it. Of course at times passing 50mgs, yes it was a bit uncomfortable, but nothing like the word agony(though for psyches that is almost a taboo word for me, considering it could always be worse....well then with psyches....;)).

That's good to hear though, I really was surprised by DOC, maybe it's because I always feel more..."knowledgable" when I've used the corresponding 2c, but with DOC, it was nothing like I expected, in fact DOC may well have been the mentally but not physically stimulating chemical that I know of. I can still picture it, all ready for a long walk, the woods, a dog/etc. Then once I felt the effects enough I grabbed my iPod/phones, put them in, and honestly before this I felt like this heavily before(obviously the JWH-122 kicked in the couch lock much more but it was barely even a hit the way I was going at the time since my pipes contained so much material that it actually took a few seconds of heating with a torch before it began to vape). I remember though the thought line "Explore the woods?", "Later!", "Walk the dog?", "LATER!". At that moment all I wanted to do was sink into my chair, get stoned, and listen to music. That's never how it is with the truly stimulating ones like 2c-I. At least in the beginning portion.

So the conclusion to this shit ramble? I'm nearly positive I'll like it now which is exciting as DOM, DOC, and DOEF were the DOx's I really wanted so that is nice!
 
Oh DOM how I loved thee.....I had read stories for so long, STP, etc....took me ages and a helluva lotta work to have my first DOM experience in maybe 1997....and then many more after....as well as saturating my circle and getting all sorts of hilarious reports back. It's a goldy. My fav DOX, with DOET a close second, followed by DOC..

DOM is a helluva ride...Shulgin described it well! Haven't taken it in years...some day, when I am happier and more mentally stable!
 
Toltec said:
My dose of DOC is 4mg + it's an amazing psychedelic... I like it much better then DOM at 10mg.. DOM is boring to me... & on a side note; DOC and DMT together, at it's peek, is spectacular!
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Funny thing, the last time I tripped on DOC, during the peak I had the strong feeling that a dose of smoked DMT would have been incredible, peak, breakthrough. I felt like they would have combined absolutely perfectly. Glad to hear an anecdotal report of that being true, perhaps I will try that sometime in the future.

amanitadine said:
DOM is a helluva ride...Shulgin described it well! Haven't taken it in years...some day, when I am happier and more mentally stable!
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I really want to try DOEF, it's near the top of my wish list. How does it compare to DOC? DOC is absolutely my favorite psychedelic, for sure. As far as I'm concerned, it stands for Drug Of Choice. :)
 
DOM has what I believe is the creepiest trip report in PIHKAL: "If on this page I shall have expressed it to you then it is true that DOM has the glory and the doom sealed up in it. All that's needed to unseal it is to surround it with a warm living human for a few hours. For that human for those hours all the dark things are made clear."

I've always wanted to try DOET at least once, if only to see if this rendition of its audio effects is accurate... :)

 
solipsis said:
Anyway I personally would not expect DOM to be warm and empathogenic but instead pleasant in the 2C-D way I just described, only with more pronounced amphetaminergic effects of course.
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The DOxs actually don't interact appreciably with monoamine transporters. Well, DOM would, but the dosage necessary for significant monoamine release would put you beyond overdose territory.

ebola
 
zn13bt said:
DOM has what I believe is the creepiest trip report in PIHKAL: "If on this page I shall have expressed it to you then it is true that DOM has the glory and the doom sealed up in it. All that's needed to unseal it is to surround it with a warm living human for a few hours. For that human for those hours all the dark things are made clear."

I've always wanted to try DOET at least once, if only to see if this rendition of its audio effects is accurate... :)

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It's funny, I was just talking about that PiKHAL report with my friend. One of my favorites, aside from the DPT one where the user met God in a synagogue.
Also, likely it does not "sound" really much like DOET audials - mostly because it seems like Coil tried to recreate the tactile as well as audial aspects of psilocybin. Still has always made me want to try DOET too though.
 
VoiceoftheTurtle said:
Also, likely it does not "sound" really much like DOET audials - mostly because it seems like Coil tried to recreate the tactile as well as audial aspects of psilocybin. Still has always made me want to try DOET too though.
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Well that makes more sense than what I was thinking...The 5-MeO-DMT track always reminds me of the substance in a weird way, even though I've never literally heard a high-pitched twisty drone on any of my trips.

I suppose they picked DOET for this album partly for its alternate name, Hecate.
 
ebola? said:
The DOxs actually don't interact appreciably with monoamine transporters. Well, DOM would, but the dosage necessary for significant monoamine release would put you beyond overdose territory.

ebola
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So how come DOX compounds are so stimulating? I found DOB to be very stimmy, giving me clammy hands and so many more stimulant effects. Dopaminergic agonism?
 
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