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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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Merged in a question about DOC potency.

Personally I find that sometimes DOC seems to be very strong, and sometimes it barely affects me. I always figured it was due to tolerance, but it does seem that various posters here have had issues with a sample of DOC, only to have it work at a later time. I haven't even approached the kinds of doses you're talking about (be careful...), but I have taken 3mg from a batch, had a strong, visual trip, and then taken up to 8mg of the same batch later with just some DOC stimulation.
 
LSD or DOX/ DOC????

this past weekend had some "acid" printed on with the Hoffman bicycle blotter. The hits were about a cm and a half square, much bigger than normal hits in size. The hits had a very bitter taste to them, but I chocked that up to the dye in the paper. I only took 1 hit and it began to kick in within 30mins of ingesting it. The come up had a bit of nausea and muscle aches. The peak lasted about 5-6 hours and the come down was very gradual, I was still tripping 12 hours later, feeling very wired and awake. The entire trip was STRONG (from 1 hit) but manageable, the entire time I kept thinking, WOW this is some great LSD.

Im questioning weather this was LSD or DOX, possibly DOC. My boyfriend is Delsyd, and he seems to believe that it was DOC not LSD. Im skeptical however because what kind of joke would it be to put something other than LSD on Hoffman blotter???

Just wondering/ looking for some other opinions. Thanks.
 
karma1485 said:
Just wondering/ looking for some other opinions. Thanks.
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And you'll no doubt get some opinions before the mods chime in with the "NO ID THREADS" rule.

My $0.02 is that LSD rarely if ever lasts that long and it never has for me (10 hour max in spite of pretty hefty doses) though for me it's still impossible to sleep at the +12 hour point.
I've never had blotters that didn't taste like paper either.
 
karma1485 said:
this past weekend had some "acid" printed on with the Hoffman bicycle blotter. The hits were about a cm and a half square, much bigger than normal hits in size. The hits had a very bitter taste to them, but I chocked that up to the dye in the paper. I only took 1 hit and it began to kick in within 30mins of ingesting it. The come up had a bit of nausea and muscle aches. The peak lasted about 5-6 hours and the come down was very gradual, I was still tripping 12 hours later, feeling very wired and awake. The entire trip was STRONG (from 1 hit) but manageable, the entire time I kept thinking, WOW this is some great LSD.

Im questioning weather this was LSD or DOX, possibly DOC. My boyfriend is Delsyd, and he seems to believe that it was DOC not LSD. Im skeptical however because what kind of joke would it be to put something other than LSD on Hoffman blotter???

Just wondering/ looking for some other opinions. Thanks.
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Although of course there's no way to tell, it does sound like DOC. DOC reminds me greatly of LSD except it's got more of a strong, physical push which can be extremely euphoric. it lacks the nasty body load that other DOXs can have. At this point in time I actually prefer it to LSD, because LSD has yet to provide me with much, whereas I have had some incredible experience on DOC.

I'd listen to your boyfriend's opinions on the matter... he's a smart guy. ;)
 
yep, IMO the hits were DOC.
i have had some experience with both DOI and DOC.

this trip definately reminded me alot of DOC. except it was even better than my previous trials with it. (i know it wasnt DOB or DOI because the trip didnt last long enough to be either and had very minimal body load).

In fact this has resparked my interest in the DOx family.
i cant wait to have further trials with DOC, DOI and especially DOM.

peace and love.
 
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Is it possible to OD on DOC? Is there an established LD-50 for DOC?
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Of course it is possible. Nobody has died from an DOC overdose and the LD50 (the dose at which 50% of the population will die) is not established for DOC (this is done with animal testing and extrapolated to humans).
 
nothing will kill me.

e1evene1even said:
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As for DOC, my experience is quite limited, but I have a hunch the more recent powdered versions aren't quite as strong as the earlier crystalline batches for some reason.
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word.
 
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My dog came across 10mgs of DOC, I've been seeing all the talk about a 1mg/ml solution, but that seems too potent for me.

Would there be anything wrong with putting say the 10mg in 100ml of water so that the solution is 1mg/10ml.

What if my dog was really paranoid and made a 1mg/100ml solution?

really i just want to know if the DOC, once dissolved, is evenly distributed in the liquid, as I would like a high degree of accuracy in my dosing.
 
Once dissolved, one can be sure that the DOC is evenly distributed. By the way, as long as you can measure out 1 ml with precision (e.g. with a syringe), a 1 mg/ml isn't more dangerous than a 100 mg/ml solution.
 
I just want to be sure of how much i ingest, (the less stress while tripping the better)
and it would seem the chance for error would be smaller if the solution is weak.

Isn't a ml about a drop? That seems like too little liquid.

my dog likes to be safe.
 
No, a drop is way less than a mL. There are a lot of drops per milliter. Once dissolved the chemical will most assuredly be evenly distributed... that's how dissolving works. You run into problems if a material is not water soluble... then it forms a suspension. But DOC is definitely water soluble so you won't have to worry about that.

To measure a milliter, go to a pharmacy and buy an oral syringe, or even ask for one behind the counter, and they should give you one for free. I bought one for a dollar which accurately measures by 1/5 mL increments, so it's extremely accurate to dose in this way. Really there is no difference between a 1mg/mL solution and a 1mg/100ml solution in terms of safety if you can accurately measure. In fact it would be a giant pain to measure out 100mL for each mg of DOC... it would probably be less accurately because you won't find a syringe that measures more than 10 or 20mL at a time, and you'd have to fill it multiple times.

But since you have so little of an amount of DOC (your dog rather), maybe you could go with 5mL per mg, or even 10mL per mg, just because 10mL of water is going to look really small in most jars or vials.

Finally, you should put some alcohol in the solution if possible, to prevent bacterial growth and such. If you have access to everclear, you can use 20% everclear and 80% distilled water (distilled is important, don't use tap for this). Or if you have vodka, you can use 40% vodka and 60% water. Both of these will give you roughly 20% alcohol in the solution. This is another reason for using a small amount of liquid, so that you don't use much alcohol. You don't want to actually be affected by the alcohol... you just want it to prevent contamination.
 
why go this large amount of liquid? 1ml/mg is fine I think if you have a vial and an oral syringe.

I buy little vials that hold about 8-9ml of water. Those would be about perfect for you (they're about 3 inches high or maybe less).
 
I have to say, DOC has taken the place of 2c-e as my favorite phen, even after a friend fucked up the liquid dilution and we ended up taking 10.5mg each!! It produced the most beautiful, flowing visuals I have ever had. Even at this dose, there were no signs of toxicity, other than waking up almost 28 hours after the dose and still having visuals;). We were hungry the entire night, there was no nausea, and my pulse hit only 96 bpm at the peak (which was about 8 hours long). TR will be coming shortly.
 
I really like DOC, its one of my favorites as well. I do wish it were possible to cut the duration down somehow though, as I do not frequently have that kind of time. 5-8 hour long DOC would be fantastic

I do not get all tense on it like I fo DOI, DOB, DOM. Its got more of a lazy feel to it, to me, anyway. I don't get all jumpy and spastic like I would if I'f eaten like 6-8mg of some of the others (DOM is not too bad though), and I can just relax and do whatever.
 
recently I had some acid but I don't think it was acid , tasted bitter, and after ingesting one blotter I had a trip that lasted about 24 hrs... I think it was some sort of DOC.... anyways, after the trip was coming to an end I had trouble breathing(my lungs felt like they were very sore and so did my chest)... anybody else had this?
 
im really having a lot of trouble deciding the dosage for my next DOC trip, the timeline for 2mg was quite odd, after thirty minutes i rocketed up to a +3 then gradually came down over 15 hours, so it was initially a bit too intense followed by lacking intensity for an entire day. the logical next step would be 2.5mg but since im trying to cut down on tripping every week the idea of having another unsatisfactory experience is quite annoying. what about other DOx, what would be the 2.5mg DOC equivalent be for DOM? 6mg?
 
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