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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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I just made my solution of doc. I'm thinking it'll condensate a lot in the fridge. Would freezer be better? It is 65% everclear. What is the best way to store it?
 
I, and my two friends had 3mgs of DOC. Quite nice&euphoric and not so intense experience, I'd say. Sleep wasn't hard (with help of THC). I liked the amphetamine part of DOC and playing with ball was even easier than being sober (trails helped me catch the ball). Swimming was also perfect, felt like I was floating in the air. Being in public wasn't hard, you don't even notice other people if you don't want to. Speaking can become quite hard though.

Where we tripped: Portorož

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My apologies if this has been covered already but how do I go about making a DOC solution, can I just buy a bottle of distilled water and add 100mg to say 100ml of distilled water and then dose it from there? Will it need heat to dissolve or anything like that?
Cheers

Nevermind just read a few pages back that this should be fine, gonna go with 70ml distilled water and 30ml of 40% vodka should this be sufficient for 100mg of doc to be stored at a 1mg per ml ratio without degrading in the next few years.

Cheers again! :)
 
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As to the debate over tolerance, in my experience it does seem to last much longer than with other, shorter-acting psychedelics. Personally, I have never dosed on occasions that were close enough together to know for sure (after days and days of continuous tripping I'm usually set for awhile.) However, I have dosed from an extremely potent batch with a friend who then took twice the amount we had taken (meaning upwards of 10mg) about 2 weeks later. He hardly tripped at all, and with 10mg of DOC....that's not just a fluke...
 
Soon I'm going to test DOC for first time. Starter dose = 3,5 mg. I hope that this compound will provide me and my buddy with intensive experience
 
So I got a sample of 15mg doc which I measured on a mg scale. I put this into 30ml of vodka and my friend took 4ml on two different days and didn't feel anything either day. What did I do wrong?
 
Sounds like bunk product. If the DOC dissolved in the liquid, it should have had an effect. Make sure it was obtained from a reputable source. What did it look like?
 
In the last three months I have been experimenting with large doses of DOC, which I have taken orally in diluted water over twenty times at several different doses. At higher doses, +5 mg DOC seems to take you to a more uncontrollable interaction with past memory and therapeutically self reflection somewhat like LSD. I remember at this stage, your mind slips away as I would believe that I had completely died and been introduced to a complete dreamlike reality where usually many negative self realizations were faced and enforced on everything I thought was possible about myself.

I have also found a common bad trip or very powerful trip can be experienced in a spiral of realities where identity lost is common, where you continuously loop in your memories like a movie that continues to fast forward and rewind, I called this the loop. Which was experienced by myself about five times, and seem to activate when there was a lot going on at the location, like loud noise and new people coming into the picture.

Even at lower doses with inexperienced psychedelic users the loop was common if they were in a uncontrollable environment, it's just their actions and the hallucinations wouldn't be as near as strong as a higher dose. A lot of time for the people who went in the loop, they won't really remember what exactly had happened in till days, weeks, or even months after the comedown.

After about ten times however with DOC, I had learned what to expect and even if I tried extreme high doses 10mg + I could control it where I wouldn't go in the loop but just have very intense euphoria, mental and physical stimulation, and Beautiful geometric patterns with opened and closed eyes. When the eyes were closed, tunnels of colors would appear, and sometimes mask of entities with past experiences of LSD, DOC, DMT, and psilocybin mushrooms would be seen.

Though there are many profound things I would like to share that this very magical compound has to offer, there is one thing that DOC has shown me that is only comparable to one other substance I have ever done, and that was DMT. With DMT the hallucinations are much more realistic, and much more alive and intense. I had experienced a series of alien abductions with DMT, and those experiences had stayed with me forever. With DOC once however, I did with two other people. I was given 5 drops of DOC diluted into water which was approximately 7 to 8 mg of DOC, my friend was given two which was up to 2 to 5 mg of DOC, and my Uncle was give 8 drops which could of been up to 12mg of DOC. That night turned into a total nightmare as I felt the same alien presence DMT had given me before, I felt as if we all three had been totally abducted by the same force and were experimented with. I had felt is if I were placed in others life, and my deepest secrets had been revealed to everyone in the external world around me, I also felt strange telepathic connections from and external force just like I did on DMT. When I finally started to realize where I was and who I was, I realized I was in the garage walking around after the last thing I remember was being in the car listening to music with my friend and uncle. I look down to see my friend rolling around on the ground completely tranced out, and my uncle still in the car just sitting there, him too tranced out. We all ended up going inside, complete confused at each other, my Uncle was angry for some reason threatening me and my friend. My friend hit the loop after we went inside and was completely spun, and I had finally came down to the DOC high I had been used too, still tripping hard, but nothing like the shit I had just experienced. After the complete come down, my uncle went into a DOC/sleep stage for the next two days while my friend came completely down the following day along with me. None of talked about exactly what had happened in till about a month later when we all felt that a force had placed us in each others lives and we all felt telepathic signals coming towards us from some very strange force. I also will be the first one to tell you that this experience was different than all the others because it wasn't just like I was tripping, it was all so real. It's the things like this that really makes you wonder I suppose.

Also the DOC is active as low as 1mg with threshold effects such as a speedy and low euphoric high with visual distortion. 2-5mg takes up to 2 hours for full affects, however 7-10mg can sometimes be felt within 5 minutes and last up to 20 hours. Usually after 12 hours the affects began to come down and within hours and sleep are completely gone. When snorted the fffects were shorter but kicked in faster. It really stings also, and yes DOC is very bitter.
 
Sounds odd that you'd have no effect at that dosage. I guess you can titrate up and see where effects begin, but unless you've been using a lot of other substances and induced a psych tolerance, 4ml should equal 2mg which should be producing an effect at the bare minimum.
 
I also am going to run my first trials with this compound soon; It's already in the mail.
I'm very excited and optimistic about this. It seems to be the general consensus that this is a potent archetypal psychadelic. I've even preemptively ordered a quantity for my treasure chest, seeing as how I keep reading about how stable it is. I'm well versed in LSD, DMT, Psylocibin, and other traditionals, but I'm only now beginning to really experiment with the new RCs.

Definitely stoked. :)
 
Would there be a cross-tolerance between DOC and 4-AcO-DMT?
 
Yes, depends though. You may have weaker mental or visual effects, and some other effects untouched, or vice versa.
 
I've been kicking around the possibility of finally trying DOC this weekend, as it's the only weekend in the foreseeable future in which I'll have several days with no responsibilities. However, I know I'm in need of a very meaningful and insightful experience, for which I usually use DPT but I don't want to cram more than one session into these few days (trying to go easy on those receptors :\ ).
So, I guess my question or motive in this posting is to ask if people have found DOC particularly meaningful or revelatory? Therapeutic?
I'd love to hear some experiences here :D
 
It can be purely recreational or meaningful, I found DOC similar to MDMA with it's easy going effects. It has many therapeutic effects I believe.
 
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I've been kicking around the possibility of finally trying DOC this weekend, as it's the only weekend in the foreseeable future in which I'll have several days with no responsibilities. However, I know I'm in need of a very meaningful and insightful experience, for which I usually use DPT but I don't want to cram more than one session into these few days (trying to go easy on those receptors :\ ).
So, I guess my question or motive in this posting is to ask if people have found DOC particularly meaningful or revelatory? Therapeutic?
I'd love to hear some experiences here :D
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Very much a recreational drug for me at low doses (2mg is the max I've tried so far). It seems like there could be room for introspection at a higher dose, or possibly in a combo. For me though, this is purely a hedonistic fun drug, albeit a great fucking one :)
 
Addam said:
I've been kicking around the possibility of finally trying DOC this weekend, as it's the only weekend in the foreseeable future in which I'll have several days with no responsibilities. However, I know I'm in need of a very meaningful and insightful experience, for which I usually use DPT but I don't want to cram more than one session into these few days (trying to go easy on those receptors :\ ).
So, I guess my question or motive in this posting is to ask if people have found DOC particularly meaningful or revelatory? Therapeutic?
I'd love to hear some experiences here :D
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maybe take your DOC, then if the trip isn't as deep as you wanted it to be delve into the DPT?
 
DOC's weird to me, it puts my brain in random mode on the peak, I have no control over most of my thoughts and they're random as FUCK. Despite that one hang-up I have about it, DOC is wonderfully deep. Taking DOI today, I'm super excited, as I've heard DOI can be even deeper than DOC.
 
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