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The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

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Xorkoth, does that mean it's never affected you at all? Or that you just haven't had a "breakthrough" experience. Because mild experiences on this plane are pretty mind-opening as well...
 
It's affected me for sure. Well, one time I did have a pretty intense experience but it was over so fast, where I experienced myself meeting myself at this point in time via multiple existences, or something, but it didn't really stick in my mind for some reason.

I think if I had tried DMT when I hadn't done so many psychedelics, I would have an easier time. I kinda feel like I've had my share of intensely psychedelic experiences because it seems no matter what I do these days they're all on a much lighter scale. It's like I've been there already so many times that the element of surprise isn't possible anymore.

Shame that you have not had a proper DMT experience yet. You will come out of it a different person, if you do it right. A stronger, sturdier person with a new surety of his place in the Universe and a indescribable contentment with Life and your place in it.
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This is how mushrooms were for me, and several other psychedelics too (but mostly mushrooms). :)
 
Xorkoth, have you ever though about mushrooms and an MAOI? Supposedly its much like an extended ayahuasca experience. Theres a few trip reports hiding around here somehere
 
I'd agree with Mr White. Mushrooms and an MAOI, particularly 300mg of moclobemide (aurorix) will give a very powerful DMT trip without the nausea of freebase DMT and maoi. The moclobemide somehow affects the psilocin so it gives the same effect as DMT - it's not like shrooms. It lasts a long time and is very intense tho so you need to be careful.

As for failures with rue and caapi - I've never had much success with those either. 300mg of moclobemide makes certain you're fully maoi sorted.
 
Mr. White said:
Xorkoth, have you ever though about mushrooms and an MAOI? Supposedly its much like an extended ayahuasca experience. Theres a few trip reports hiding around here somehere
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Ismene said:
I'd agree with Mr White. Mushrooms and an MAOI, particularly 300mg of moclobemide (aurorix) will give a very powerful DMT trip without the nausea of freebase DMT and maoi. The moclobemide somehow affects the psilocin so it gives the same effect as DMT - it's not like shrooms. It lasts a long time and is very intense tho so you need to be careful.

As for failures with rue and caapi - I've never had much success with those either. 300mg of moclobemide makes certain you're fully maoi sorted.
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The Great Canterbury Psalter, as shown below, clearly depicts Jesus as the guardian of the sacred mushrooms Amanita Muscaria, Psilocybin Cubensis, and other plants; Syrian Rue Pod (Peganum-Harmala), even Opium Poppy Pods
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Maybe they're all supposed to be consumed together ;)
 
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Damn what a fascinating idea, are there trip reports around of these 4 combined? :O
 
omik said:
Damn what a fascinating idea, are there trip reports around of these 4 combined? :O
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Check Erowid.org I'm sure you can get an idea from looking at the many Combination trip reports.

I've taken 3g of A. Muscaria and 1.5g of Psilocybin Cubensis (ground up as a powder, in lemon and lime) with a little Cannabis. That was just perfect, cant really put it into words atm though. I'd like to say I also combined it with Syrian Rue, but all I did was dab a little on my finger tip and rub it on my gums. I'm pretty sure it worked though.

I would imagine that all these together would provide the most complete and dynamic trip; A. Muscaria provides the quickening of the Spirit, the P. Cubensis opens the Third-Eye, the Syrian Rue increase the effects of the other compounds (MAOi), where finally the Opium induces euphoria to help relax enough in order to let go and fully experience the visionary state, so you can withstand the intensity without having that ever so popular urge to "make it stop."

[EDIT]: Found a trip report with A. Muscaria, P. Cubensis, and Syrian Rue just no Opium,

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=353

This sounds about right, mine was quite similar just not as intense because of the dosage difference.
 
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Mr. White said:
Xorkoth, have you ever though about mushrooms and an MAOI? Supposedly its much like an extended ayahuasca experience. Theres a few trip reports hiding around here somehere
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I've had mushrooms and rue, many years back when I hadn't had much experience. I actually found it to be a lot like mushrooms alone but longer and more... something. I may have not taken enough rue, who knows... I got it from a friend and didn't know much about this stuff then.

I've certainly read many reports on the combo since then. :) One day I definitely intend to take DMT and an MAOI, and also mushrooms and an MAOI again.
 
Maybe it's not the same with rue. Try moclobemide and mushrooms and try it quickly :)
 
huh. I'm pretty much against using any "hedonistic" drug like coke or opium, but would it hurt to do opium to relax into a psychedelic experience? Is that supposed to happen?

If one is anxiety prone, would the opium help one ease into a mushroom experience? Wouldn't there be a yucky come down?

*goes off to scan erowid for opium/psych combos*

EDIT: Not too many!
 
Yeah, I thought this was about DMT...
I guess the digression began with someone saying that shrooms +MAOI + moclobemide = DMT experience.

By the way, Big Stroonz, How can you tell from that picture that it's opium and syrian rue? I dunno, they look like aliens to me. I can understand mushrooms, but that's it.
 
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By the way, Big Stroonz, How can you tell from that picture that it's opium and syrian rue? I dunno, they look like aliens to me. I can understand mushrooms, but that's it.
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The Red Mushroom on the right is clearly the A. Muscaria. The next one is obviously the Psilocybin Cubensis, because it's Blue. The one after that strikes a resemblance to a Syrian Rue pod, shaped as a Mushroom, which happens to match this in color as well as similar structure. On the left it appears to be the depiction of an Opium Poppy, only pictured as a Mushroom.

Here is the full portrayal of the Canterbury Psalter, featuring the familiar 12 signs of the Zodiac. Which clearly illustrates the sacred mushrooms and plants throughout the story.

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Notice in the 8th window pane, there is a large Green "Mushroom" that the Jesus-like character presents to "Adam and Eve," perhaps this is Cannabis?

Also, in the 9th segment. It's the scene of Eden with the Serpent. The etwined staff is actually the stem of the Mushroom itself. At first it looks sort of like the A. Muscaria, but also appears to be much like the Psilocybe Mushroom. However, when we zoom in closer, it seems as if there's many different tiny Mushrooms inside of the larger mushroom.

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gust comming down offf of 3 back to back dmt sessions... i fell in love with myself... ripped off all my clothes, started to grope and feel love towards me and tell my self how much I loved ME and made metaphysical cosmic love to myself... ntohing quite like DMT.... never will be, never should be.... DMT is love <3 sorry for the ramble, still buzzing but had to share <3 I love myself, I love you all, I love LOVE <3 <3 <3
 
So a friend did an extraction on 450 grams of mimosa and has ended up with 4 grams of slightly off white, and they still have some pulls to do.


I assume that the bark could not be anymore than 1% dmt so does this mean there is a substantial amount of non-dmt in the powder, despite it being white crystals?
 
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