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The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

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Okay so here's a question...

I take 2mg of Klonopin a day for GAD and the occasional panic attack...

Would Ayahuasca (pharma rather, using THH) be a dangerous combo? I don't know much about benzos and MAOIs though I am almost certain benzos are not metabolized by MAO at all.

Also, would I be able to break through if I smoked DMT with benzos in my system? Its obviously not safe for me to stop taking them...

The last time I smoked DMT was probably an hour after smoking a negligible amount of 5-MeO-DMT (which was very unpleasant but luckily ended fast) and while on I think 2C-I and 4-AcO-DiPT and my heart rate went to an astronomical level and it was just a horrible experience - didn't even break through - just thought I was going to die.

I think I would probably do much better with a THH/DMT combo than smoking DMT but I'm wondering how much my Klonopin is going to kill the trip.
 
I thought I would share with the community that, on friday night, I used DMT to stop someone smoking freebase cocaine, the same day they got out of prison.

The woman I'm seeing (her ex of 12 years is the person in question) was telling me about him, and how, even though they cannot be in the same room together, how much she cared for him still, and how furious she would be if she saw someone giving him cocaine again, especially in a pipe.

So when we parted ways after we walked the dogs, I went down to the pub and just chilled out, drawing a little, and he walks in with a friend. He is greeted warmly, and as the minutes tick over I cannot help but get the feeling that his friend was probably not the appropriate friend to be with him straight after getting out of incarceration.

SO, anyway, my friend starts talking about the DMT experiences we had had, he asks some questions and then just carries on talking to his friends. He would like to try it, and seeing as it seemed at the time that his mate was gonna try and get him to go with him to go score some cocaine, I thought it would be a good idea.

SO I load him up a bowl - he likes it, it get passed on...

After about 3 small sub-breakthrough hits, and one REALLY obvious breakthrough - he seems very smiley and blessed when he came back into the world, but then I can see his gung-ho arrogance shine through again...I think "fuck...Maybe he needs an ayahuasca brew or a large dose of LSD to break through that ego...I really feel foolish"...and then him and his mate go, thanking me, and I feel a bit disappointed.

Later in the evening I tell my friend's father(who is good friends with my ladyfriend), who is part of an ayahuasca circle and he has been acquaintances with the guy from way back, about what I did and my intention behind it, and how I "failed"...then I feel naive as hell after speaking in such a way.

The next day I see the guy and he thanks me again for the previous night, and I don't feel like asking too many questions about his experience as I've already made some assumptions, so I just sit there at the pub table sketching.

However, that evening my friend's father comes up to my at the pub, and tells me that what I did WORKED.

The guy went and saw him later that day, and told him about everything that happened, and that he decided not to do cocaine that night, and had some great insights when he went to bed, and the next day also, and has really decided to step back a little for a while - evidently it took a lil while to integrate the experience.

Then the guy turns up at the pub again, and we have a long indepth talk and smoke some more, and he opens up quite a lot to me, and I see just how damaged he is.

this tale is to be continued - I can see me and him having an interesting future relationship.

This made me smile :)
 
Okay so here's a question...

I take 2mg of Klonopin a day for GAD and the occasional panic attack...

Would Ayahuasca (pharma rather, using THH) be a dangerous combo? I don't know much about benzos and MAOIs though I am almost certain benzos are not metabolized by MAO at all.

Also, would I be able to break through if I smoked DMT with benzos in my system? Its obviously not safe for me to stop taking them...

The last time I smoked DMT was probably an hour after smoking a negligible amount of 5-MeO-DMT (which was very unpleasant but luckily ended fast) and while on I think 2C-I and 4-AcO-DiPT and my heart rate went to an astronomical level and it was just a horrible experience - didn't even break through - just thought I was going to die.

I think I would probably do much better with a THH/DMT combo than smoking DMT but I'm wondering how much my Klonopin is going to kill the trip.

there isnt any serious interaction except the MAOI with a benzo can feel even more drowsy than either on its own.

I also dont think it will inhibit the trip too much if you are taking that dose daily.
 
This made me smile :)

:)

On a less smiley note I tried smoking this at a party yesterday - BAD MOVE.

Firstly, I was kinda drunk and wanted to test my glass stem pipe, as one side, about a 3rd broke off, to see if it still worked and wouldn't burn...NO NO NO...

It was a medium sized dose, and the room shook quite a lot, but seeing as I was doing it in the kitchen, where I shouldn't be smoking anyways, I felt this presence with me that just shouted "THIS IS NOT THE PLACE".

I have found this drug good for "speaking" to me...like I actually hear a voice - and it's a positive guiding energy.

Maybe schizophrenics have dark jungle spice spikes in their brain, that gives them bad voices?!?

ANyways it was the wrong place wrong time and it told me off...with an actual voice.

Whereas other psychedelics make me think on things, and bring THINGS to the forefront of my attention if I need to change things.

Good shit. Much love for the spice.
 
I was curious and wanted to know, since one of the main visions i get from dmt is aliens singing or talking to you ,i wanted to know if all the aliens usually look like elves or do they differ in shapes for some people ?
 
I notice mushrooms and DMT... Both have a very distinct buzz, humm, high pitched tone that acts as a carrier wave that you tune into and through that and the accompanying disturbances in the wave, well... as a carrier wave it carries voices, visions, Very clear, concise information, instruction, visions... taking you quite effectively into other worlds completely.

*tunes into buzz/frequency* ..... Voice pops on in head "Now put your feet together and follow my instruction" as I am surrounded by worlds made of light, syntax, understanding, how would you describe it? Intelligence, purity... clarity...

5 hours of a mushroom trip is alot like DMT in the sense of the carrier wave accompanying very clear, loud and clear voices, instructions in the head, giving options, you can do this, or not. anyways, When you do do it, Wow... It's definitely up to something, out there in the collective, it's got a major role to play in helping us evolve and understand the worlds we live in. Peace.

To answer the last poster, the aliens for me are much more machine like personally... as if they are hyper emotive digits of ultra simplicity yet, extremely hyper emotive, epitomizing in the extreme the rushing streams of emotions, intent and expression of a super human... but in machine form. other than that the closest to an "alien" I have encountered has been myself breaking out of my body shell, Or the beings of light that surround me in my bedroom sometimes explaining their connection to my ancestry and such... Loose, but connected. Though, The Alien Intelligence Itself, Is All Pervasive, 100%+
 
The other day I had my first experience where I actually got scared and had to put the pipe down - I loaded up a big one, and think I trained myself to be able to take it in 2 instead of 3, because I was almost blasting off from this one, but for some reason I wasn't ready to launch off again. Could have been the setting...actually thinking about it, it was, I was in a tent.

Will try again tomorrow, as me previous experiences I wasn't scared at all, just embraced it.

Not sure why I was scared - but hey that one hit showed me a lot of stuff anyhow as I curled up in my tent, and was immersed in very vivid "dreams" - much like the lucid dreams I have had in my life, but accompanied with sacred geometries.

Crazy experiences. Loving this so much.
 
Do the entities you see on DMT actually look like this? Look closely at this machine elf, oh my god, I've never seen anything this amazing on any trip I've had (on any drug... can't wait to try DMT). I'm 100% sober and this is one of the most beautiful psychedelic images I've seen, it's so geometrical and mystical and WOW:
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Do the visuals look like that? Holy shit... I can't believe my eyes at the intricacy. And many say that they experience "Shopping malls" of entities like that? Must be so intense, especially when coming from your mind.


Can someone confirm or post an image that strongly resembles anything seen on DMT ?

Also is the above image less, just as, or more intricate than what one would see on DMT
 
^ Yep. It's really true. You've gotta see it to believe it. I'm not really a visual tripper, but I've gotten a couple trips where I've seen things extremely similar to the image you posted -- except the visuals themselves are actually animated, so they've got more dimension.
 
yeah you see things like that,

ive traveled/fallen though things like this on my second experience when i broke though. it was fucking crazy

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Yeah, the DMT visuals get that crazy, but not exactly like that in my mind. I have seen shit that intricate, colorful, and confusing. Everyone has a different perspective though, so I could easily see how a person would see that entity. Breaking through is what actually would allow something like that. Meditation (even just sitting in a quiet room for a little while or something) before and during the trip, being alone, and correct smoking techniques are basically what I think are the most important things. It really is an art.

How much do you think a bit lower than my daily dose of clonazepam would effect my breakthrough? I just got a sample of new spice and would love to test it, but am beating a rather nasty IV opiate habit. I think the DMT would help immensely but I have been on 1-2mg of klonopin, and 0-1mg of xanax daily for months and they are really getting me through the hard withdrawals...:p.

If taking like .5mg of the clonazepam early in the day would cause it to be clouded or sub-breakthrough in any way then I would just save the spice until I can not benzos for a day or something(or even taper off if need be). I don't mind dealing with the anxiety spike without my meds, it is the risk of seizure and such since my muscles tense and sometimes spasm on DMT.

Anyone with help thanks <3
 
I can't remember any visuals like that during the single breakthrough I had so far.
the journey I experienced didn't contain complex "visuals" like the ones above but threw me into a completely different reality which was not necessarily more complex or "unrealistic" than the usual reality. it was just completely strange. (it was like: "this is not planet earth but this could exist in this universe")

maybe this was due to the n2o-augmentation...
I think I've had visuals like the alex-grey-tool-video-space on a subbreakthrough dose...

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oh, I just wanted to add that DMT is so absofuckinlutely crazy! :)
 
^ It existed within you -- you exist within the universe -- it DID exist within the universe!
 
Yeah, the DMT visuals get that crazy, but not exactly like that in my mind. I have seen shit that intricate, colorful, and confusing. Everyone has a different perspective though, so I could easily see how a person would see that entity. Breaking through is what actually would allow something like that. Meditation (even just sitting in a quiet room for a little while or something) before and during the trip, being alone, and correct smoking techniques are basically what I think are the most important things. It really is an art.

How much do you think a bit lower than my daily dose of clonazepam would effect my breakthrough? I just got a sample of new spice and would love to test it, but am beating a rather nasty IV opiate habit. I think the DMT would help immensely but I have been on 1-2mg of klonopin, and 0-1mg of xanax daily for months and they are really getting me through the hard withdrawals...:p.

If taking like .5mg of the clonazepam early in the day would cause it to be clouded or sub-breakthrough in any way then I would just save the spice until I can not benzos for a day or something(or even taper off if need be). I don't mind dealing with the anxiety spike without my meds, it is the risk of seizure and such since my muscles tense and sometimes spasm on DMT.

Anyone with help thanks <3

IME, hardly ANYTHING can stop DMT... Its only enemy is MAO that I've seen. I have a friend who smokes DMT all the time. He takes 50mg a day of Valium and still breaks through when he smokes 40mg and his trip is just as long (or short depending on how you look at it) as it would be without the V.

Now if you IV your benzos, that might be a different story, though I still doubt it.

On the DMT note, I'm going to have a yummy gram of crystal enlightenment soon and I can't wait!
 
IME, hardly ANYTHING can stop DMT... Its only enemy is MAO that I've seen. I have a friend who smokes DMT all the time. He takes 50mg a day of Valium and still breaks through when he smokes 40mg and his trip is just as long (or short depending on how you look at it) as it would be without the V.

Now if you IV your benzos, that might be a different story, though I still doubt it.

On the DMT note, I'm going to have a yummy gram of crystal enlightenment soon and I can't wait!
I found rather strangely(as I enjoy combining psychedelics only with psychedelics(weed too)and dissociatives)that DMT goes VERY well with just about every other drug i've combined it with. I've taken it with everything from barbs/benzos/alcohol/opiates. Benzo'd DMT tripping is the best. I can smoke 500 mgs easily in a few hours when on benzos.
 
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