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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy Bufotenine (5-HO-DMT) Thread - The Truth is Out There

For extracting you don't have to get the skin off. I read that the main reason to remove the skin for snuff is that the skin is more difficult to pulverise to powder in a mortar and pestle.
 
Can one heat the extract to speed up the drying process, how sensitive is the Bufotenine, will boiling distroy it? Does drugstore IPA evaporate cleanly?

Also am i alone in thinking that that yopo snuff smells delicious, i love the way it smells, i cant stop sniffing my fingertips.
 
have anyone read this paper ?

Bufotenine reconsidered. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica 72: 44750.
McLeod, W.R. & Sitaram, B.R. 1985

ABSTRACT - Bufotenine given intravenously to a medically trained volunteer subject correlated with the appearance of profound perceptual and emotional changes which were of short duration. The compound rapidly disappeared from the blood and metabolites quickly appeared in the urine of the subject.

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/do...47.1985.tb02638.x?cookieSet=1&journalCode=acp
 
I will hopefully have time to try a "calcium bufotenate" trial this weekend, so a trip report should be forthcoming
 
I am disappointed to report that my first trial with the alcohol extract was unsuccessful. 20 grams of prepared snuff was mixed in 70% IPA rubbing alcohol (only listed ingredients are IPA and water) the mixture was shaken and poured through a coffee filter, then more IPA was added and the process was repeated, I always let the mixture sit at least ten hours between filtrations. The consolidated alcohol was reduced until it was a thick oily resin; some chuna (lime) was added to this tar yielding a thin oily tar, unlike the snuff this tar smelled awful. I wiped a dab the size of a penny (about a quarter of the total tar) onto some foil and held the foil over a flame, it produced a feculent smoke, I took several long hits and had no psychedelic effects, it did make me feel a little sick (not nauseous, just gross) right now I feel "out of it" and a little annoyed, but that’s it. I contemplated rubbing the resin inside my nostril or under my tongue but thought better of it. I think a de-fatting step may be neccessary for these seeds, the result of the extraction reminded me of a botched salvia extraction i did which produced a tar too oily to smoke. The process made a big mess, and I think I'm through trying with bufotenine for the time being, or at least until someone else has some consistent success.

Thanks for your help Eric.
 
Erick Smyth said:
To me it smells like peanuts mixed with popcorn. It’s not at all bad in my opinion. Maybe the bad smelling snuff other people complain about is rotten snuff?
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I didnt eat peanuts or peanut butter for days after my first trials with yopo snuff;)
 
Hi guys. I won’t be posting in bluelight again. As much as I've enjoyed most of the people here, I've had recent trouble with the mods Vector and willow11 sending me nasty emails accusing me of crap and deleting my posts.

I've never been treated so badly on any forum ever. I'm done with this forum. You can find me on other forums that are more friendly and support free speech. MySpace and YouTube are my favorite places. There are no mods to silence you there.

TO VECTOR AND WILLOW11: Please cancel my account! I don't want to be part of bluelight. I can see that censorship is very prevalent here. I'm American and we believe in free speech. You've already deleted much of what I've posted and sent me nasty emails. Go the next step and PLEASE DELETE MY ACCOUNT.

To Anadenanthera: I’m sure Vector and willow11 both sent you the same nasty emails they sent me. Talk to me on MySpace. You know my account name. I’m not reading any emails here or any posts here. I’m done with this place. It sucks.

To Heyoka, thirty-three, hamhurricane, and others I had the pleasure to have constructive talks with, I’ll find you on other forums most likely. You guys are cool.
 
See ya. The problem that people had with you was that we could clearly see that you and Anadenanthera are the same person, as you have the same IP which is coming from the same location. What we didn't like was your curious deception, using two accounts to perpetuate your theories. It smells funny.

I would love it if what you're saying is true. And maybe it is. But why the deception?
 
Xorkoth said:
See ya. The problem that people had with you was that we could clearly see that you and Anadenanthera are the same person, as you have the same IP which is coming from the same location. What we didn't like was your curious deception, using two accounts to perpetuate your theories. It smells funny.

I would love it if what you're saying is true. And maybe it is. But why the deception?
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For your information, I'm using a public machine at a coffee shop. And I'm using a public proxy server while logged into bluelight. There are hundreds of other people using this same machine every weak and millions of people using the same public proxy server. I don't know if what you're saying about IP addresses is real or not. Frankly I don't believe it. If it were, that would mean we are using the same public proxy server. I doupt that. I think you just want to have the last word and will probably say anything to make your point.

Would you please DELETE MY ACCOUNT. I can still log in. I want it deleted.
 
So I guess Anadenathera uses the exact same computer then.

If you would look back, I was not starting any arguments with you, only responding to your angry retorts to those trying to debate your points. I'm just reporting what I've been told by the higher-ups, and at this point I simply want to reveal the facts. You seem like an intelligent individual and I would have liked to see you make some contributions. And if in fact the contributions you made are true, then I wish you'd have not used two accounts to try to drum up interest, as that's against the BLUA and is a little weird. Seems to some people that you may be attempting to generate interest in the sale of certain ethnobotanicals and/or bufotenine. The things you report are exciting and I hope they're true, but several well-educated folks here have reason to believe it's total BS, and your behavior has made it seem more like deception. So you have further things to say, you should take it up with the administrators, as I'm merely relaying what was told to me.

I cannot delete an account. I'll forward your request to the administrators.

If we're wrong, then I'm sorry, truly. Sometimes being a moderator is unpleasant.
 
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Erick Smyth,

I think you blew it, boy.

what a deception... :!

I'don't think you are an American, but if you get to go to Mexico, go talk to Jonathan Ott.

cheers !
 
Erick- you've made a tawt of yourself- no-one cares beyond the fact you were promoting bullshit. I believe I may be on Ignore so you probably cant read this, but WE KNOW that you are posting from the same computer as Ananandananthera!!! Okay- WE KNOW. There can be no doubt. If you want to find out how- think. IP adress. You have been punked.

I am very disappointed really, because I know people have taken bufotenine since this idiot appeared. Fucking opposite of harm reduction.

TO VECTOR AND WILLOW11: Please cancel my account! I don't want to be part of bluelight. I can see that censorship is very prevalent here. I'm American and we believe in free speech. You've already deleted much of what I've posted and sent me nasty emails. Go the next step and PLEASE DELETE MY ACCOUNT.

To Anadenanthera: I’m sure Vector and willow11 both sent you the same nasty emails they sent me. Talk to me on MySpace. You know my account name. I’m not reading any emails here or any posts here. I’m done with this place. It sucks.
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PEOPLE- DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY, HE IS OUTRIGHT LYING. ERICK SMYTH AND ANANDANANTHERA ARE THE SAME PERSON. BE VERY WARY IN WORKING WITH THIS GUY AS NOT ONLY ARE HIS THEORIES BULLSHIT, HE HAS TO INVENT PEOPLE TO MAKE BULLSHIT FACT- NICE WAY TO IGNORE HARM REDUCTION AND WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN EGO.

Grr, this has pissed me off. Please guys be very wary of this one. I am of the belief he is trying to promote bufotenine for more then just a spread the love feel.
 
... but on Wikipedia it says Erick Smyth is right, an wikipedia is never wrong, is it? 8)

I don't know what this guy's motive is, but I would like to applaud the mods for dealing with this situation. In addition to promoting the use of a dangerous, Sch I compound, his third pseudonym, Pantherina, was promoting the use of a more toxic cousin of Amanita muscaria. Whatever the motive, I'm glad this mess has been cleaned up.

Thanks mods. :)
 
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Amanita Pantherina isn't toxic.

I was suspicious of the duplicity when Anadenanthera dissapeared and Erick showed up stating that he understood Anadenantheras anger since he'd been treated badly and he looked and saw those posts.

Either way,

The science or chemistry may be incorrect, I don't know. But, what I do know is that what he is saying jives with what Ott says and what others with large post counts have said on other boards. At least reguarding the snuff.

I think the guy was really on to something he just went about getting the message across poorly. I trust the message especially since the numbers of users of these snuffs was apparently huge in ancient mesoamerica.

What Erick/Anadenanthera was saying makes sense even if some of the technical bits are incorrect. I'm gonna keep on looking into this.
 
Heyoka, I'm with you. I think bufotenin still deserves a look ... it's by no means settled one way or the other. Actually, I'm quite convinced it has psychedelic properties; it's the cardiovascular toxicity that's in question for me.

Now, Heyoka, if you were to present some personal evidence, I would give it much more weight than some maniacal poster that makes up names and is up in arms when there's a little friendly debate.

I think MGS was talking shit to one of the political forum mods ... completely unrelated to this. I think he may have just needed a little slap on the behind. ;)
 
I will forward your request to the admin. In the mean time, have some decency and stop posting.

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